Banker and Merchant assistant cost too much - READ the OP before you comment

Lyss1991 · September 2018

Its a convenience item, Its not necessary. At all. If you think its too much, Dont buy them. I bought mine during a sale and im glad I did. Now when im farming or looting I dont have to stop and go to town to empty my bags.

Believe it or not, They are a business and they have to make money to pay their employees and keep producing content. There also has to be profit for the company. In game purchases are absolutely necessary for the game to survive. Some of us dont mind paying and supporting the game since it gives us something to enjoy during our free time.

Quit complaining about stuff that doesnt affect your gameplay. Or stop being cheap and buy them.

MerlinPendragon · September 2018

The only change I would make would be to be able to make some slight adjustments to their clothes. Not fully customizable, but even just colors would be an improvement.

DMuehlhausen · September 2018

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

rumple9 wrote: »

I would like them but they are far too expensive when I have to buy my crowns for cash. If price was reduced I would buy them

whether you get free crowns for eso plus or just buy crowns: crowns cost real money. I would NEVER buy ESO Plus were it not for the fact that a month of ESO+ is the same price as 1500 crowns and you get 1500 crowns with ESO Plus.

I buy ESO Plus when I need crowns for DLC.

You should get ESO+ for the crafting bag alone. I'd probably pay double for that bag.

idk · September 2018

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Zos counters OP’s offer of 1k crowns with an offer of 5k crowns.

OP, buy the crowns on sale and you’ll save on purchasing the assistants. Being the assistants pride ya shield steady for a couple years now it seems very unlikely Zos will cut the price 80%.

still. a. rip. off.

Some thing it’s great and worth it. Some don’t.

For those of the opinion it’s a rip off they do not need to buy it. Maybe they will get lucky and run with some who think they’re great to have and worth it.

JKorr · September 2018

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

GallantGuardian wrote: »

I bought them when I saved up my 1500 free crowns from my sub... I rarely buy anything in the crown store and saving the crowns for them was totally worth it ...

and you sub for a craft bag that is essential for crafters because the caps opn space are too low making it more of a necessity. So basically ESO Plus is a scam

The craft bag isn't essential. Everyone playing from early access until they made subs voluntary managed without it. And if you think the mats now are numerous, you'd have had a fit with the original version of provisioning. You had as the first ingredient needed, for baking the different levels of recipes: meal, sifted flour, milled flour, cake flour, baker's flour, Imperial flour, to make grilled items you had: drippings, cooking fat, suet, lard, fatback, pinguis, for soups and stews you had thin broth, broth, stock, jus, glace viande, Imperial stock for the different levels of recipes. People had to explain that if you had "worms" it was bait, but "Plump worms" were provisioning ingredients. You needed an equally large number of items to start brewing drinks. You needed to find "aged meat", "dusk beetles", "snake slime" and "wasp squeezings"... You don't want to know about the pig's milk..... And no craft bag existed. People dealt with it if they wanted to be a provisioner. https://www.esouniverse.com/guides/crafting/provisioning/

You get 8 character slots with the base game. Do what everyone had to do before the craft bag existed; Have certain characters pick up only the mats for one craft. Do the inventory/bank/inventory shuffle. Inventory shuffle was just part of the game. If you didn't want to deal with it, you didn't make a crafter. Doing the separate mat collecting would take more time; you'd have to log in to each one that you needed the specific mats from, but hey, you didn't pay for anything besides the base game, so no scam.

It would be nice, imo, if the mandatory sub thing had been kept. Then everyone would be on equal footing, you'd know you had to pay a sub up front, and everyone could have the crafting bag and additional bank space. The "whole game" approach, because mmos aren't static no new content one time playthrough games. Ongoing content for ongoing revenue. Otherwise you can find good copies of the single player Morrowind with expansions, Oblivion with the additional dlc included, and Skyrim with all the pieces if you want "whole games." And you can add free mods, when you finally run through all the content. [Although you might have to deal with Steam for some versions]

Nyladreas · September 2018

pteam wrote: »

The worst part about it is every merchant in the game can repair your armor, oh except for the one you paid money for.

Every banker in the game you can sell items to your guild store with, and you can pay your guild dues, oh except for the one you paid money for....

Why would anyone even use the repair function from a merchant is beyond me.

But sure, go ahead and pay 6x more for it than player repairs lmao. This argument always baffles me.

majulook · September 2018

I have the banker bought with ESO+ crowns it was expensive and I agree overly so, but very handy. The merchant I do not see any real need for even if it was half the cost.

Mt biggest issue with the banker is the fact that he constantly moves away from you.

MehrunesFlagon · September 2018

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

SakuraRush wrote: »

So the whole of the OPs argument is "I want it but I don't want to pay. ZoS is greedy for wanting me to pay."? Because that sure is how it sounds.

And to be clear if a company wanting you to pay more for something makes them greedy then you wanting to pay less makes you greedy.

Would you do your job for less money, sell your goods a much lower price because people didn't want to pay for them? Unlikely.

This is more of a Rich people ruining things for everyone that isn't rich thing,which they do.

Nonsense. The game went B2P. Before, everyone had to pay $15/month to play. Now they can get the game for $10 during a sale and play to their heart's content.

"Rich people" help make that possible when they buy large sums of crowns to buy fancy housing, etc.

Please

Thalmor-Nordmaster · September 2018

The banker chase has become a ritual for me. The next big thing I will buy is the vestige edition pipboy comes with a Nord mead mug as well. The banker close window bug is a major irritant. For me and I speak for myself (unless I am on Khajiit then I speak for all nine of us) the pros of the merchant/banker outweigh the cons. When I purchased them the Banker did not have the current bug nor did I have to chase him around. Not sure exactly when the bugs were added.

At the time of introduction of the Merchant, the repair option was a hot topic and brought about a heated debate. For me, I would like to have the option to repair or the option to buy repair kits from the merchant.

DorianDragonRaze · September 2018

No, Banker and Merchant don't cost too much. Keeping a good MMO up may cost too much.

MehrunesFlagon · September 2018

DorianDragonRaze wrote: »

No, Banker and Merchant don't cost too much. Keeping a good MMO up may cost too much.

Lining the pockets of Ceos costs too much.

forwardbias83 · September 2018

More people might buy the merchant if the merchant had the ability to repair equipment.

Cpt_Teemo · September 2018

You can buy em in game now with gold prob around 1mish or so if you wanted to buy one averagly

DanteYoda · September 2018

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

Now please go to a Gucci boutique and tell them you ain't gonna pay that skirt 700€ but you would gladly get them 29.99€ for it.

Wth is a Gucci boutique.. and why would anyone pay 700 for any clothes..

All they have to do is add skins to them like the warden bear..

Easily_Lost · September 2018

Nyladreas wrote: »

pteam wrote: »

The worst part about it is every merchant in the game can repair your armor, oh except for the one you paid money for.

Every banker in the game you can sell items to your guild store with, and you can pay your guild dues, oh except for the one you paid money for....

Why would anyone even use the repair function from a merchant is beyond me.

But sure, go ahead and pay 6x more for it than player repairs lmao. This argument always baffles me.

I said this same thing in another thread. Why pay for repairs when you can use Repair kits. Right now I have approx. 600+ in my bank.

sampol212 · September 2018

Those features would be fair at that price if...

merchant have an ability to repair and banker had the ability to access guild store but they are not. So yes its not worth to buy them at that price in my opinion.

sampol212 · September 2018

smacky wrote: »

You people do realise you get 1500 crowns per month with ESO+, and you can use those crowns to buy them?

Do you realize that not everybody are ESO plus members? I buy sub from rarely and just for one month to try new things.

jaschacasadiob16_ESO · September 2018

DanteYoda wrote: »

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

Now please go to a Gucci boutique and tell them you ain't gonna pay that skirt 700€ but you would gladly get them 29.99€ for it.

Wth is a Gucci boutique.. and why would anyone pay 700 for any clothes..
All they have to do is add skins to them like the warden bear..

Luxury is a status symbol. It is meant to show people they belong to an upper class than the one you belong to.
The banker and merchant in-game are luxury. They are not needed to play the game at all.

If you can't afford them, stop crying.

Mayrael · September 2018

I think that price is ok, but would be nice if merchant could repair our stuff and banker could give us an access to guild bank and store.

Merlin13KAGL · September 2018

Easily_Lost wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

pteam wrote: »

The worst part about it is every merchant in the game can repair your armor, oh except for the one you paid money for.

Every banker in the game you can sell items to your guild store with, and you can pay your guild dues, oh except for the one you paid money for....

Why would anyone even use the repair function from a merchant is beyond me.

But sure, go ahead and pay 6x more for it than player repairs lmao. This argument always baffles me.

I said this same thing in another thread. Why pay for repairs when you can use Repair kits. Right now I have approx. 600+ in my bank.

Because not everyone does 15 sets of writs per day and it's generally quicker than doing single repairs on 7 pieces.

If you have a piece with repair cost less than that of a kit, it saves gold, and worst circumstance repair cost (gear trashed) is still usually less than you'll pick up in almost any content.

You can save the kits for when there is no merchant available, and you'll spend less time chasing guild traders in the process.

If we really want to talk OP (overpriced), let's talk the worthless white level inventory of every vendor out there.

The merchant is pricey, no doubt. But if you play very much at all, the time saved justifies the cost in the long run. This is especially true since you have access to it on every alt, even brand new ones.

Gargath · September 2018

So odd when people argue about how much more they could pay, like double/triple more of actual crown price. Just because it's a luxury item, or to justify their opinions. Either a way to express the whale in them, or just irresponsible words.

Mayrael · September 2018

Merchant actually imho is great investment. When grinding my alts I was able to make 60-70k gold in few hours just from trash I was selling. For hardcore grinders it can be quite nice source of income.

stitchesofdooom · September 2018

redlink1979 wrote: »

The only issue here is that you don't have the coin/crowns and you want, as many in the game, instant gratification...

I can spend the money, but if you'd been paying attantion at all you'd see that it's not the price: it's the principle.
If you had bothered to read my OP properly before making judgements, you'd see that I don't want an assistant to follow me around all the time, I merely want to put them in my Guildhall for my Guild: the lesser of their uses.

If you could see past your various forms of elitism, you'd at least be able to acknowledge the point that charging the price of the game at release all over again, just for a couple of assistants, is greedy.

Finally, if you were anything more than a good little consumer you'd see that these "games as a service" and microtransaction (also macrotransaction) trends are anti-consumer.

Your discuting judgementalism is disgraceful.

Where's your money going anyway? Dark Brotherhood and Theives Guild DLC's made you grind "radiant" junk quests to get at the story content. "Radiants" replacing side quests is disgraceful. Sure, that was a while ago but do you SERIOUSLY think they have your best interests at heart??

MehrunesFlagon · September 2018

DanteYoda wrote: »

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

Now please go to a Gucci boutique and tell them you ain't gonna pay that skirt 700€ but you would gladly get them 29.99€ for it.

Wth is a Gucci boutique.. and why would anyone pay 700 for any clothes..

All they have to do is add skins to them like the warden bear..

My explanation would be that they are stupid beyond comprehension.

Grandesdar · September 2018

I know they're a bit expensive, especially if you live in a country with worse exchange rate, but even so, I'm fine with them costing as much. It's definitely a luxury, I saved up a while to buy them but I didn't have to.

Sylvermynx · September 2018

I still think it's better to spend 5 minutes to go to town, sell, repair, bank etc. then go back. Without the basic repair function, the merchant is fair useless since there are (as I was informed earlier, and have since found for myself) merchants all over the roads.

As for spending gold for repairs? It's fast. And I have plenty of gold. If I'm out of Crown Repair kits on someone, it usually doesn't cost all that much in gold to get it done fast.

I think the largest repair bill I've had so far was ITN 50 gold. *shrug*

NewBlacksmurf · September 2018

Skwor wrote: »

No they are not. They are a luxury item. Thier is no need for them at all in the game. Such items should cost a premium. I would see them cost even more.

This is 100% backwards thinking and while I own them both...my reason was 10k crowns were gifted to me due to a ZOS error with ESO Plus.

stitchesofdooom · September 2018

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

No they are not. They are a luxury item. Thier is no need for them at all in the game. Such items should cost a premium. I would see them cost even more.

This is 100% backwards thinking and while I own them both...my reason was 10k crowns were gifted to me due to a ZOS error with ESO Plus.

yeah, why the hell do gamers constantly defend extortionate prices. Even IF my OP was in error and I was everything I've been accused of, WHO THE HELL WANTS TO PAY MORE??

I think a lot of these guys have already been duped into spending loads on this game and don't want anyone else to pay less.

MattT1988 · September 2018

Yes they are too expensive. But heaps of idiots are paying that price for them, so why wouldn’t they sell them for that much?

If you subscribe to ESO+ just use your free crowns when you get enough. Might take a while but are you in a rush?

Watchdog · September 2018

Sylvermynx wrote: »

I still think it's better to spend 5 minutes to go to town, sell, repair, bank etc. then go back. Without the basic repair function, the merchant is fair useless since there are (as I was informed earlier, and have since found for myself) merchants all over the roads.

As for spending gold for repairs? It's fast. And I have plenty of gold. If I'm out of Crown Repair kits on someone, it usually doesn't cost all that much in gold to get it done fast.

I think the largest repair bill I've had so far was ITN 50 gold. *shrug*

Well, there are no merchants inside delves and dungeons.

I bought both assistants and it was one of the best quality of life improvement in ESO for me.