Suggestion: Flying Mount Solution

GDOFWR420 · September 2018

Get this dead horse out of here. Good idea though, but not gonna happen

Jake1576 · September 2018

Good idea

but the rooting the player when they get on the mount sounds okay but I might just want to use it also not to just fly from wayshrine to wayshrine but to also ride them on the ground as long as there would be an option that allows us to ride the flying mounts on the ground still and they aren't just meant to get from wayshrine to wayshrine I would be okay with it

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

Leocaran wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

ZOS...responded to a suggestion thread?
Holy crap

Yes, that's a sight.
Ofc, it's just a cosmetic thing which could be sold in a Crown shop.

It is cosmetic, yes. But it also repairs ESO's teleporting mechanic in the sense that most players who use addons have [Port to Friends]. The idea is also to remove the gold cost for self travel if you have a flying mount unlocked; again further distancing the player base from the aforementioned addon.

Port to Friends will still be beneficial for new players and alt characters for initially unlocking wayshrines.

Savos_Saren · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

ZOS_Holden wrote: »

Hi there @Unknown_Redemption,

Thanks for the suggestion! Flying mounts as a way to use Wayshrines, or status symbol, is a very fun and interesting idea. Unfortunately, we can't guarantee your idea will make it into the game. That being said, we really appreciate the time you took to share your idea with us and hope you will continue share any other feedback or suggestions you may have for us in the future.

Thank you very much for the response, it is appreciated! There is no question that the art team in ESO loves what they do and this would give them a new platform to have fun with.

I believe ZOS has a policy that they can't accept "suggestions"- but they can consider "feedback". They are probably already working on the idea of flying/hovering mounts (before you suggested it)- but they have to give you that response so that they don't look like they stole an idea.

@ZOS_Holden am I right about the "suggestions" policy?

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

Jake1576 wrote: »

Good idea but the rooting the player when they get on the mount sounds okay but I might just want to use it also not to just fly from wayshrine to wayshrine but to also ride them on the ground as long as there would be an option that allows us to ride the flying mounts on the ground still and they aren't just meant to get from wayshrine to wayshrine I would be okay with it

The main reason for having them not be an actual ground mount is their size. I pitched this idea with a Gryphon photograph and I know many others would want a way to get a Bone Dragon. That being said, if this is successful, there is no reason why smaller mounts (e.g. a Magic Carpet ) could not be both available and assigned in the Mounts and Flying Mounts Collections concurrently.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

ZOS_Holden wrote: »

Hi there @Unknown_Redemption,

Thanks for the suggestion! Flying mounts as a way to use Wayshrines, or status symbol, is a very fun and interesting idea. Unfortunately, we can't guarantee your idea will make it into the game. That being said, we really appreciate the time you took to share your idea with us and hope you will continue share any other feedback or suggestions you may have for us in the future.

Thank you very much for the response, it is appreciated! There is no question that the art team in ESO loves what they do and this would give them a new platform to have fun with.

I believe ZOS has a policy that they can't accept "suggestions"- but they can consider "feedback". They are probably already working on the idea of flying/hovering mounts (before you suggested it)- but they have to give you that response so that they don't look like they stole an idea.

@ZOS_Holden am I right about the "suggestions" policy?

The policy means that I would get no credit, mention, or reward for a suggestion. Which is 100% fine by me.

Savos_Saren · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

ZOS_Holden wrote: »

Hi there @Unknown_Redemption,

Thanks for the suggestion! Flying mounts as a way to use Wayshrines, or status symbol, is a very fun and interesting idea. Unfortunately, we can't guarantee your idea will make it into the game. That being said, we really appreciate the time you took to share your idea with us and hope you will continue share any other feedback or suggestions you may have for us in the future.

Thank you very much for the response, it is appreciated! There is no question that the art team in ESO loves what they do and this would give them a new platform to have fun with.

I believe ZOS has a policy that they can't accept "suggestions"- but they can consider "feedback". They are probably already working on the idea of flying/hovering mounts (before you suggested it)- but they have to give you that response so that they don't look like they stole an idea.

@ZOS_Holden am I right about the "suggestions" policy?

The policy means that I would get no credit, mention, or reward for a suggestion. Which is 100% fine by me.

Yeah, I just read the TOS. It's in Line Item #16. And your response is perfect.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

GDOFWR420 wrote: »

Get this dead horse out of here. Good idea though, but not gonna happen

I thought this idea was unique and not a repost of something else; perhaps I was wrong. Also, its not really flying, per se, it is giving the opportunity for your character to have a magnificent exit and a unique way to move around the world.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

CyberSkooma wrote: »

I really don't think flying mounts will ever be implemented into ESO simply because of all the instancing. That being said they can always have ground mounts that look like they're flying.

EDIT: I re-read your post and now understand how you want it to function.... eh. I mean I guess it would be cool, and there's no reason *not* to have a function like this, but I think we may be able to find a better alternative.

What would you suggest?

TheShadowScout · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Suggested Item:
New Collection Tab: Flying Mounts

Item Function:
Allows the player to travel for free, at all times, to a known wayshrine...

That... actually would be a pretty neat and functional way to implement flying mounts. Just as "taxi service" to wayshrines... none of the troubles with -actually- flying...
Not like the same function isn't already in the game for a small amount of gold (to buy spell components for the teleport spell I presume)

But also, there would not be many "flying mounts" without smashing the lore to bits (sorry, dragon-lovers, this ain't skyrim), but a tamed gryphon or cliff racer... I could see that.

...

The same function could also be assigned to a "magic effect" too. Like, owning a "psijic portal wand" or similar and using "enter portal" animations to pop away and out near the waysshrine of your choice... similar to the scrying stuff, just with a "step through"...

Well, or any other flavor of portal, anyhow. Not like there aren't enough portal-slinging mages around ESOs NPCs, right? So it could be available in numerous flavors - psijic portal, mages portal, deadric portal, etc.

...

And then... there could also be a consumable scroll that allows the same - but not pop to a wayshrine, but to a friendly transitus shrine instead! Which people could buy with AP to get to a siege quickly from some far off corner of cyrodil (Yes, that one -should- allow teleport to a castle under siege - since it would be a consumable, and it might be a pricy one at that)

Facefister · September 2018

Having flying mounts will effectively kill your overland, guaranteed. Even the WoW devs still regret that they've implemented flying.

ArchMikem · September 2018

Specialty Mounts JUST for free Fast Travelling?

SilverIce58 · September 2018

Everybody wants flying mounts, but aside from gryphons and maybe a few daedra, there really aren't that many creatures that we could use to fly.

I don't think Cliff Racers are big enough sadly.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Everybody wants flying mounts, but aside from gryphons and maybe a few daedra, there really aren't that many creatures that we could use to fly.

I don't think Cliff Racers are big enough sadly.

I dont see why not...
Ancient Cliff Racer

Bone Dragons
Gryphons
Titans
Bull Netch
Gargoyl
Magic Carpets
Giant Forest Moth
Giant Torch Bug
Giant Vampire Bat
Giant Wisp

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

Facefister wrote: »

Having flying mounts will effectively kill your overland, guaranteed. Even the WoW devs still regret that they've implemented flying.

I agree, these are not for overland exploration.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

ArchMikem wrote: »

Specialty Mounts JUST for free Fast Travelling?

Yes

And:
Allows the possibility for exciting drops and rewards from in-game content.
Allows the possibility for revenue growth with crown exclusive mounts.
Gives your character a dramatic exit.

SilverIce58 · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Everybody wants flying mounts, but aside from gryphons and maybe a few daedra, there really aren't that many creatures that we could use to fly.

I don't think Cliff Racers are big enough sadly.

I dont see why not...
Ancient Cliff Racer

Bone Dragons
Gryphons
Titans
Bull Netch
Gargoyl
Magic Carpets
Giant Forest Moth
Giant Torch Bug
Giant Vampire Bat
Giant Wisp

Not trying to rain on your parade, but magic carpets aren't a thing in this universe. Bone Dragons can't fly, they can probably glide, but aside from an immense source of magic they wouldn't be able to fly. Also, do you know how giant a torch bug/vampire bat would have to be to be rideable? And a wisp? Highly doubtful they can be ridden let alone touched. The cliff racer tho, could be possible.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of riding a creature as another version of a wayshrine, it's not a bad idea. But realistically, like I said, there aren't many creatures that can be used as a flying mount.

(Reman Cyrodiil did have giant moths with their thoraxes hollowed out and temples on its back used as spaceships, and the altmer had large sunbirds they used for space travel, but that was in the 1st era)

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Not trying to rain on your parade, but magic carpets aren't a thing in this universe. Bone Dragons can't fly, they can probably glide, but aside from an immense source of magic they wouldn't be able to fly. Also, do you know how giant a torch bug/vampire bat would have to be to be rideable? And a wisp? Highly doubtful they can be ridden let alone touched. The cliff racer tho, could be possible.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of riding a creature as another version of a wayshrine, it's not a bad idea. But realistically, like I said, there aren't many creatures that can be used as a flying mount.

(Reman Cyrodiil did have giant moths with their thoraxes hollowed out and temples on its back used as spaceships, and the altmer had large sunbirds they used for space travel, but that was in the 1st era)

I am sure they could think of some things, I was just tossing out 1 second ideas.

Gnortranermara · September 2018

I like it. As long as they're not for overland mobility, that's an awesome idea. Treat them like the assistants. You summon them from a quickslot and they act like a portable wayshrine. If you have it out, it would follow you around like any other assistant. And while they're at it, they can let us activate the mount "furnishing" in our house to travel out for free. The more I think about it, the more I like it.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »

I like it. As long as they're not for overland mobility, that's an awesome idea. Treat them like the assistants. You summon them from a quickslot and they act like a portable wayshrine. If you have it out, it would follow you around like any other assistant. And while they're at it, they can let us activate the mount "furnishing" in our house to travel out for free. The more I think about it, the more I like it.

I LOVE the idea of having it able to be placed inside our homes and acting as a wayshrine out.

regime211 · September 2018

Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

Suggested Item:
New Collection Tab: Flying Mounts

Item Function:
Allows the player to travel for free, at all times, to a known wayshrine.
Using the mount triggers a visual mount and liftoff, similar to a momento, then enters a zoning screen.

Upon finishing the zoning process, the player lands near the wayshrine with a second visual effect prior to dismounting.

Item Limitations:
Upon activating the mount, your player is rooted.

May not be used in combat.

Porting to another player activates the current mundus visual; as they may be inside a dungeon where a flying mount can't reach.

Reasoning:
ESO's environment is not built for free flying exploration.
Allows the possibility for exciting drops and rewards from in-game content.
Allows the possibility for revenue growth with crown exclusive mounts.
Removes the outdated and trivial cost of teleporting to wayshrines.
Easy to implement.

I cant even hit a skill in pvp at times without my bar greying out or being health desynched, hell even in pvp traveling to a different zone I suffer the slow frame rate per second, until zos fixes performance I dont want anything else.

idk · September 2018

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Wonder if its possible for them to make gliding mounts instead of pure flying like Gw2

No. There is no difference between the two. It is merely semantics.

I came in here wondering how this thread was still alive since the OP's idea is mounts that do not fly but have a load screen. Regardless. ESO will never have flying mounts. It is missing critical elements that make it impossible and it is far from worth it for Zos to make the necessary changes.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

regime211 wrote: »

I cant even hit a skill in pvp at times without my bar greying out or being health desynched, hell even in pvp traveling to a different zone I suffer the slow frame rate per second, until zos fixes performance I dont want anything else.

This is not the right platform express that type of concern. If you had the chance to watch ESO on Twitch this past Friday, they did address it and there is a whole team assigned to stability.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

idk wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Wonder if its possible for them to make gliding mounts instead of pure flying like Gw2

No. There is no difference between the two. It is merely semantics.

I came in here wondering how this thread was still alive since the OP's idea is mounts that do not fly but have a load screen. Regardless. ESO will never have flying mounts. It is missing critical elements that make it impossible and it is far from worth it for Zos to make the necessary changes.

To be clear, IDK, this is essentially equivalent to a momento. However, it extends the fantasy of being able to fly; even if thats not what is really happening. Granted, this isnt a philosophical debate, it allows many players to earn more rewards and add a new flavor to the game.

Unknown_Redemption · September 2018

I am going to add notable community ideas for this suggestion to the OP. I really appreciate everyone's constructive criticism.

SteveCampsOut · September 2018

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Unknown_Redemption wrote: »

SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »

I like it. As long as they're not for overland mobility, that's an awesome idea. Treat them like the assistants. You summon them from a quickslot and they act like a portable wayshrine. If you have it out, it would follow you around like any other assistant. And while they're at it, they can let us activate the mount "furnishing" in our house to travel out for free. The more I think about it, the more I like it.

I LOVE the idea of having it able to be placed inside our homes and acting as a wayshrine out.

Housing wayshrines are a step in the right direction.

Sylvermynx · September 2018

Facefister wrote: »

Having flying mounts will effectively kill your overland, guaranteed. Even the WoW devs still regret that they've implemented flying.

Yeah, because the pvp folks were and probably still are all that the wow devs care about. And that's one of the major parts of why I no longer give Blizzard any money, and haven't for a LOT of years. Flying was - wonderful. I spent a lot of time getting toons to that level so I could have flying mounts - and also had to accumulate a lot of gold for same.

And when Blizzard trashed that aspect of the game.... I quit giving them my money. A LOT of money.... seven subscribed accounts, paid six months at a time.

The only part of "overland" flying mounts "killed" was the pvp crap.

Facefister · September 2018

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Facefister wrote: »

Having flying mounts will effectively kill your overland, guaranteed. Even the WoW devs still regret that they've implemented flying.

Yeah, because the pvp folks were and probably still are all that the wow devs care about. And that's one of the major parts of why I no longer give Blizzard any money, and haven't for a LOT of years. Flying was - wonderful. I spent a lot of time getting toons to that level so I could have flying mounts - and also had to accumulate a lot of gold for same.

And when Blizzard trashed that aspect of the game.... I quit giving them my money. A LOT of money.... seven subscribed accounts, paid six months at a time.

The only part of "overland" flying mounts "killed" was the pvp crap.

WoW devs and them caring about PvP? Absolutley not. It isn't about openworld PvP either, it's about skipping the ground-level content entirely.

Let's say, the devs implement this whole flying "wayshrine", it will end up like this:
-Gryphon for 5k crowns in crown shop
-Billy buys it because "yeah flying mounts... sort of"
-Billy uses it
-Flying to a destination, animations of lifting off and landing included, takes minutes
-After a week or so Billy rarely uses it because it takes too much time
-Another week passes
-Billy wants to go Craglorn
-Billy opens up his trading guild members list, picks his desired destination, "teleport to player"
-Gryphon "wayshrine" collects dust like the Werewolf and Vampire skill line in the crown store

Sylvermynx · September 2018

*sigh* I never skipped overland content while using flying mounts. The only content I could actually have fun with was overland in WoW - because lag, then as now, causes heartburn.... and many other issues.... Not to mention I just don't have the ability to do group content - NO ONE is going to mess with someone who has 2 second lag.

I just loved to fly. And then they took that away. And along with many other issues, that was - the killer.

Watchdog · September 2018

SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »

I like it. As long as they're not for overland mobility, that's an awesome idea. Treat them like the assistants. You summon them from a quickslot and they act like a portable wayshrine. If you have it out, it would follow you around like any other assistant. And while they're at it, they can let us activate the mount "furnishing" in our house to travel out for free. The more I think about it, the more I like it.

Oh, no, please, no.

Have you seen the size of the Gryphon? Now imagine 50 players with those things out in any crafting hub. *shivers in terror*