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Warden Bear Pet Skins ?
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I did not know that was a thing... what is that appearance? That is awesome!!!Edited by _Ahala_ on August 28, 2018 7:02PM0 -
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I did not know that was a thing... what is that appearance? That is awesome!!!
It's the Wild Hunt Transform memento from the Wild Hunt crates. "By bough and by leaf, a Spriggan you'll be!"
Lasts for about 3 mins
"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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✭starkerealm wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »I just like how ZOS gave Wardens the skin, as if they already knew that the bear was going to be the only Ultimate worth a damn
The bear is responsible for 15% of the class' total DPS. It's literally the only viable ultimate. Using the destruction staff ultimate shaves like 5k from your parse (and it's already the lowest DPS in the game with the bear).
Permafrost is amazing what are y’all saying? Then again I play tanks.
And YES take all my money and give me pet skins dammit!
Omg can you imagine a clockwork/dwarven bear? They have so many bear reskins for the mounts, release those and some wolves for a start Zos!
Permafrost is amazing for PvP. The, "you must run the bear," thing is PvE, so different skill considerations.
Most Wardens use Thicket though, don't they?
I find that permafrost is amazing against a group if you can coordinate with a dk to drop a standard on the 2nd tick0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't see wardens as being so rare.
See them all the time in pve (unsure about endgame)
I have no trouble at all filling the kill 20 wardens bounty in pvp. It's not as fast as sorc, nb and templar but it goes pretty quickBeta tester November 20132 -
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »I just like how ZOS gave Wardens the skin, as if they already knew that the bear was going to be the only Ultimate worth a damn
The bear is responsible for 15% of the class' total DPS. It's literally the only viable ultimate. Using the destruction staff ultimate shaves like 5k from your parse (and it's already the lowest DPS in the game with the bear).
Permafrost is amazing what are y’all saying? Then again I play tanks.
And YES take all my money and give me pet skins dammit!
Omg can you imagine a clockwork/dwarven bear? They have so many bear reskins for the mounts, release those and some wolves for a start Zos!
Permafrost is amazing for PvP. The, "you must run the bear," thing is PvE, so different skill considerations.
Most Wardens use Thicket though, don't they?
They're both legitimate options in PvP.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »ZOS doesn't care about the warden class.
Less than 3% of endgame players use the class because it's so grossly underpowered. ZOS sees these numbers and then decides that it's not worth their time to create new pet skins since no one plays the warden. It's a vicious cycle.
I'd gladly pay crowns for more pet skins. But there are so few of us that still play the class that ZOS simply doesn't care.
Endgame players are not the target audience for cosmetics like pet skins. Cosmetics sell to people who like to dress up their character and create themes for them. Some of them will also be endgame players, but not all. Therefore the number of endgame players using wardens is not representative of the potential market for new pet skins.
Go into any city and you'll see bears, meaning people playing wardens, taking the bear ultimate and using it even when they're not likely to be in combat. They are the target audience for new pet skins.
I'm an endgame player with 4+ yrs sunk into ESO. Hell I spend a quarter of my time at the outfit station. If I'm going out to die in dungeons and cyrodiil I want to look good doing it..and my pet as well if it was possible LOL!
I'm not saying there aren't endgame players who care about how their character looks, just that it's not a 1:1 comparison so the number of endgame players who play a warden and use the bear is not representative of the total number of players who would buy skins for it.
Especially when the warden is apparently a bad class for endgame, so those players have an incentive to not play it which doesn't apply to the wider population who will just play whatever seems cool and are doing content which is easy enough that it doesn't matter if it's not the best possible choice.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »ZOS doesn't care about the warden class.
Less than 3% of endgame players use the class because it's so grossly underpowered. ZOS sees these numbers and then decides that it's not worth their time to create new pet skins since no one plays the warden. It's a vicious cycle.
I'd gladly pay crowns for more pet skins. But there are so few of us that still play the class that ZOS simply doesn't care.
Endgame players are not the target audience for cosmetics like pet skins. Cosmetics sell to people who like to dress up their character and create themes for them. Some of them will also be endgame players, but not all. Therefore the number of endgame players using wardens is not representative of the potential market for new pet skins.
Go into any city and you'll see bears, meaning people playing wardens, taking the bear ultimate and using it even when they're not likely to be in combat. They are the target audience for new pet skins.
I'm an endgame player with 4+ yrs sunk into ESO. Hell I spend a quarter of my time at the outfit station. If I'm going out to die in dungeons and cyrodiil I want to look good doing it..and my pet as well if it was possible LOL!
I'm not saying there aren't endgame players who care about how their character looks, just that it's not a 1:1 comparison so the number of endgame players who play a warden and use the bear is not representative of the total number of players who would buy skins for it.
Especially when the warden is apparently a bad class for endgame, so those players have an incentive to not play it which doesn't apply to the wider population who will just play whatever seems cool and are doing content which is easy enough that it doesn't matter if it's not the best possible choice.
Huh. Someone gave me this jar of tears from DK players claiming Warden tanks are replacing them...#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »ZOS doesn't care about the warden class.
Less than 3% of endgame players use the class because it's so grossly underpowered. ZOS sees these numbers and then decides that it's not worth their time to create new pet skins since no one plays the warden. It's a vicious cycle.
I'd gladly pay crowns for more pet skins. But there are so few of us that still play the class that ZOS simply doesn't care.
Endgame players are not the target audience for cosmetics like pet skins. Cosmetics sell to people who like to dress up their character and create themes for them. Some of them will also be endgame players, but not all. Therefore the number of endgame players using wardens is not representative of the potential market for new pet skins.
Go into any city and you'll see bears, meaning people playing wardens, taking the bear ultimate and using it even when they're not likely to be in combat. They are the target audience for new pet skins.
I'm an endgame player with 4+ yrs sunk into ESO. Hell I spend a quarter of my time at the outfit station. If I'm going out to die in dungeons and cyrodiil I want to look good doing it..and my pet as well if it was possible LOL!
I'm not saying there aren't endgame players who care about how their character looks, just that it's not a 1:1 comparison so the number of endgame players who play a warden and use the bear is not representative of the total number of players who would buy skins for it.
Especially when the warden is apparently a bad class for endgame, so those players have an incentive to not play it which doesn't apply to the wider population who will just play whatever seems cool and are doing content which is easy enough that it doesn't matter if it's not the best possible choice.
Huh. Someone gave me this jar of tears from DK players claiming Warden tanks are replacing them...
DK offers far too much to be fully replaced. Warden just makes for a great OTValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
rynth✭✭✭✭✭You'd think with all the bear mounts they would have some different skins. I agree I feel like ZOS created the bear skin for the Warden then left and forgot about the warden.
Some skins I'd like to see:
1. Griffon
2. Different feline mounts
3. Different types of bears
4. Spider
5. SpriginWhen asked what he would do for a Klondike bar. Grand Moff Tarkin said "why I would blow up Alderaan."1 -
Aesthier✭✭✭✭✭How about opening the "non-combat pets" as skins for Warden and Sorcs to use as "combat pet" skins.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭You know what -I- would like to see?
The warden bear pet being "combined" with any rideable bear mounts.
As in... your pet gets the -exact- same appearance as your mount, but vanishes when you mount and reappears when you dismount. For an "I am riding my battlebear!" effect!2 -
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✭Great idea but we all know the ZoS art department is working on more shades of lipstick and whatever weird bondage inspired costume/hat you’ll see in the next round of crown crates.2 -
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✭There should be a skin so bears can look like fluffy sheep. No, wait! That should be for werewolfs ... you know, a wolf hidden in sheep's clothing... get it? LOL! I am so funny sometimes.
(okay, well, maybe not 'funny' ... but at least mildly amusing) Edited by Maryal on August 31, 2018 2:42AM0 -
swippy✭✭✭✭✭Hayden_Knight wrote: »
i mean, its icon is a picture of a bearskin. "go here to look at your bear skin"
how do you guys do that little trolly picture?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yaaasss! We've been waiting for more skins long enough! Storm ZOS offices and demand more bear skins, and for that matter, scamp/clannfear skins, too.
Or, instead of demanding, we can bring them plates of cookies and ask nicely. Either/or. I'm good with either. I can bake.1 -
abigfishy✭✭✭✭✭Pet Sorcs are almost everywhere and Wardens with Bears are too. The one spot you do not see this is in trials as people tend to disapprove of pets in trials. If trials are your ONLY definition of endgame then you are correct.Level 50 Characters
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Hannah Smithee Breton Templar DC Healer
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Lovely Twinkle High Elf Sorc AD Tank
Nepith Dark Elf Warden EP Healer
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Cleopatra Tharn Imperial Sorc EP Healer
Daenerys Targaryin Nord Templar DC Healer
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Celrith High Elf Sorc EP Assassin
Falcar Dark Elf NB DC Necromancer
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✭✭✭✭✭Hayden_Knight wrote: »
i mean, its icon is a picture of a bearskin. "go here to look at your bear skin"
how do you guys do that little trolly picture?
@swippy type this:trollface
#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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Gahmerdohn✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »ZOS doesn't care about the warden class.
Less than 3% of endgame players use the class because it's so grossly underpowered. ZOS sees these numbers and then decides that it's not worth their time to create new pet skins since no one plays the warden. It's a vicious cycle.
I'd gladly pay crowns for more pet skins. But there are so few of us that still play the class that ZOS simply doesn't care.
Endgame players are not the target audience for cosmetics like pet skins. Cosmetics sell to people who like to dress up their character and create themes for them. Some of them will also be endgame players, but not all. Therefore the number of endgame players using wardens is not representative of the potential market for new pet skins.
Go into any city and you'll see bears, meaning people playing wardens, taking the bear ultimate and using it even when they're not likely to be in combat. They are the target audience for new pet skins.
Good point but here's the thing: Most people imitate what endgame players are doing. If endgame players are not playing something a big part of the community gives up on it as well.
You can clearly see it: from LV 3 to CP 500 ish you can see a lot of wardens after that you don't see them as much.
People that only care about playing what they love regardless of what is the current meta is a small part of the population as the meta players are and most of them are doing housing most of the time so the skin of the bear is not that relevant to them either although they would love to have it.
Most of the people are in between and in this majority (cp 300 up to 3K cp players) you don't see wardens as much.
For instance, I do pledges on 5 chars/day + trial and such and when I see a warden it feels like a surprise or I'm the warden ^^
In PVP there's probably more but still, it is by fare le least played class so naturally, ZoS doesn't give it a lot of attention and a lot of us feel it (there's no smoke without fire is a popular saying).
I'd Love and pay for things like Durzog, Nix hound, Alit, Wamasu, Cliff Strider, Kagouti, Kwama Warrior, Sabre Cat, Scorpions...Well, there's so much interesting things to do with this....
For sorc it'll have to be other Daedras, I'd make no sense for sorc to summon a Gryphon from oblivion ^^
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Hexvaldr✭✭✭I would love more pet skins. Enough people play warden who would enjoy it. I think there is a common perception that players are either end game (elite, whatever term) or casual, but I propose that it is a continuum and not so clear cut. So many of us are somewhere in the middle. I personally run warden tank (cp 905 for reference) for a lot of vhm and vhm dlc dungeons, but also enjoy making different builds, including some that are simply thematic -- for appropriate content. The obsession and quest for what's best is fun for some people, some care most about the feel of a character, some don't enjoy figuring out builds and just want a solid template so they can play challenging content, and many of us are some mix of these things, or even of other arenas of enjoyment. I'm grateful the game allows for all of that, and more skins definitely would only contribute!Edited by Hexvaldr on August 4, 2019 8:22PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ahh this thread is a throwback to when I gave a snip about Warden.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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was always just going to be the home for one bear pet skin. Good job you were correct 
