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When are we going to be able to change our stage 4 vampirism appearance?
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D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »@ShadowHvo i think you are the one who doesn't understand. i have never once suggested they change how stage 4 looks, from the very get-go i have asked for the ability to change our appearance which is something entirely optional.
Nah. It’s you.
He said it’s a minor cosmetic negative.
There’s very little drawbacks (only positives) for Vampirism. That’s why pretty much every class, build and their mother runs Vampire right now.
and how does giving us the ability to change our appearance change that?
Simple. The nasty appearance is enough to keep at least some people away from the meta.
Giving people an “out” for the nastiness factor will make it standard for pretty much everything. (Even more so than it already is).
Oh? People are going to follow the meta reguardless, but what does that have to do with Vampirism? You can deffinatly "follow the meta" without Vampirism. Who are you to dictate how someone plays the game? You can hide all sorts of "minor cosmetic negatives", which is the whole point of this thread. Vampirism can be hidden already, we want more customizable options that are fair for everyone. Thats the whole point of this thread, and some people like myself, will keep the stage 4 look.3 -
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✭✭SilverPaws wrote: »SilverPaws wrote: »
If you want to be a Vampire, you're going to look like a Vampire. If you don't want to look like a Vampire, then don't be a Vampire. I don't care about what choice you make. What i care about is people accepting the outcome of their choice.
I don't like the look either, so i choose not to be a Vampire and i live without the passives.
Its very simple.
Your arguments are ridiculous.
Why you care about how people want they're vampire characters to look ?
As you said you don't have vampire character so i don't see reason why you should comment here about it.
Because being a Vampire is a physical Affliction. It is a Curse, a Disease, it is not just some passives in a skill tree, you are a Monster, and this particular Monster does not look like any other normal being. This isn't just some armor piece that can hide under a costume that you can take off and put back on willy nilly, Vampirism and Lycanthropy both serious life altering conditions for your Characters that they must live with if they remain afflicted.
Do you think people with Psoriasis can just magically vanish their scarred skin away just cause they don't like the look? And diseases like that don't even provide any benefits to your life. At least in this game your character gets to have advantageous skills and passive abilities over others at the cost of pasty skin and bloodshot eyes.As you said you don't have vampire character so i don't see reason why you should comment here about it.
It's not a good thing to shut out the opposition. If you want something you must fight for it with reason, knowledge, and compromise. Definitely not by telling people who oppose you, "If you don't support us then go away".
I know what vampirism is and yes vampire can hide they're appearance even in eso, we can see that it's possible.
You can say what you want, but you didn't provided any argument why vampires could not alter they're appearance with magic.
How are all the Stamina Vampires in the game supposed to suddenly know advanced Illusion Magic? And how are they supposed to keep that Illusion up permanently if all they know how to do is chuck their BattleAxe at people in Cyrodiil?
You could carry some enchanted/daedric object in your inventory or whatever. It could even be used like a momento, like how we can spawn a cake or do weird Psijic crap in populated areas.1 -
SilverPaws✭✭✭✭✭SilverPaws wrote: »SilverPaws wrote: »
If you want to be a Vampire, you're going to look like a Vampire. If you don't want to look like a Vampire, then don't be a Vampire. I don't care about what choice you make. What i care about is people accepting the outcome of their choice.
I don't like the look either, so i choose not to be a Vampire and i live without the passives.
Its very simple.
Your arguments are ridiculous.
Why you care about how people want they're vampire characters to look ?
As you said you don't have vampire character so i don't see reason why you should comment here about it.
Because being a Vampire is a physical Affliction. It is a Curse, a Disease, it is not just some passives in a skill tree, you are a Monster, and this particular Monster does not look like any other normal being. This isn't just some armor piece that can hide under a costume that you can take off and put back on willy nilly, Vampirism and Lycanthropy both serious life altering conditions for your Characters that they must live with if they remain afflicted.
Do you think people with Psoriasis can just magically vanish their scarred skin away just cause they don't like the look? And diseases like that don't even provide any benefits to your life. At least in this game your character gets to have advantageous skills and passive abilities over others at the cost of pasty skin and bloodshot eyes.As you said you don't have vampire character so i don't see reason why you should comment here about it.
It's not a good thing to shut out the opposition. If you want something you must fight for it with reason, knowledge, and compromise. Definitely not by telling people who oppose you, "If you don't support us then go away".
I know what vampirism is and yes vampire can hide they're appearance even in eso, we can see that it's possible.
You can say what you want, but you didn't provided any argument why vampires could not alter they're appearance with magic.
Ive already made that point in Aliyavana's thread about this.
Verandis could hide his Vampirism through Illusion Magic because he was a talented High Elf, and even then he didnt hold his Illusion indefinitely. As much as people want to believe casting Magic in Tamriel is not an easy feat. It takes immense talent and concentration to perform complex spells, which Illusion Magic is one of. How are all the Stamina Vampires in the game supposed to suddenly know advanced Illusion Magic? And how are they supposed to keep that Illusion up permanently if all they know how to do is chuck their BattleAxe at people in Cyrodiil?
Really ? I think powerful individual like vestige can learn illusion spell to hide his/her vampirism
And vampires pretty much don't age so they can learn. Doesn't mean when someone swings axe in cyrodiil that he/she can't learn magic.Edited by SilverPaws on August 25, 2018 9:18PM4 -
BigBragg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭SilverPaws wrote: »SilverPaws wrote: »SilverPaws wrote: »
If you want to be a Vampire, you're going to look like a Vampire. If you don't want to look like a Vampire, then don't be a Vampire. I don't care about what choice you make. What i care about is people accepting the outcome of their choice.
I don't like the look either, so i choose not to be a Vampire and i live without the passives.
Its very simple.
Your arguments are ridiculous.
Why you care about how people want they're vampire characters to look ?
As you said you don't have vampire character so i don't see reason why you should comment here about it.
Because being a Vampire is a physical Affliction. It is a Curse, a Disease, it is not just some passives in a skill tree, you are a Monster, and this particular Monster does not look like any other normal being. This isn't just some armor piece that can hide under a costume that you can take off and put back on willy nilly, Vampirism and Lycanthropy both serious life altering conditions for your Characters that they must live with if they remain afflicted.
Do you think people with Psoriasis can just magically vanish their scarred skin away just cause they don't like the look? And diseases like that don't even provide any benefits to your life. At least in this game your character gets to have advantageous skills and passive abilities over others at the cost of pasty skin and bloodshot eyes.As you said you don't have vampire character so i don't see reason why you should comment here about it.
It's not a good thing to shut out the opposition. If you want something you must fight for it with reason, knowledge, and compromise. Definitely not by telling people who oppose you, "If you don't support us then go away".
I know what vampirism is and yes vampire can hide they're appearance even in eso, we can see that it's possible.
You can say what you want, but you didn't provided any argument why vampires could not alter they're appearance with magic.
Ive already made that point in Aliyavana's thread about this.
Verandis could hide his Vampirism through Illusion Magic because he was a talented High Elf, and even then he didnt hold his Illusion indefinitely. As much as people want to believe casting Magic in Tamriel is not an easy feat. It takes immense talent and concentration to perform complex spells, which Illusion Magic is one of. How are all the Stamina Vampires in the game supposed to suddenly know advanced Illusion Magic? And how are they supposed to keep that Illusion up permanently if all they know how to do is chuck their BattleAxe at people in Cyrodiil?
Really ? I think powerful individual like vestige can learn illusion spell to hide his/her vampirism
And vampires pretty much don't age so they can learn. Doesn't mean when someone swings axe in cyrodiil that he can't learn magic.
I mean we all did fight and defeat a daedric prince. I would guess illusion magic would be easier, but I could be wrong.I see the werewolf line more like a jazzed up rendition of Overload than a direct parallel to vampires.
I also don't thing they should be balanced in accordance to each other, that just leads to homogenization of gameplay and disregard for lore. Let them be utterly different and serve different roles and mechanics. I think that is a great thing. Variety. Not the same car with a different coat of paint.
I wish that too. When they monetized them as “optional” skill lines for flavor not for winning then that is what made them become the same car in two different paint jobs. You can’t sell a Honda and a Jaguar at the same price. Unless it’s an old ugly veiny pale unfashionable Jaguar.
They monetized them as a pair they need to be balanced as a pair.
Right now please tell the build makers and the FOTM chasers that Vampire and Weewolf are equal? No lol we all know that vamp is a clear advantage in passive stats and skills.
Edit: or show me a year long history of WW being recommended as a “must-have” for PVE by the community. Vampire has been “must have” for the number chasers for a long long time.
FoTM has people making 40-50k light attack werewolf builds.
As for the monetization by Zeni, I know they are on the market, but I don't even know people that have paid for a bite in game in forever, let alone buying one from the Crown Store. I believe that is a moot point.
Are these 40k light attack builds for pve? I’d love to see that! I’m still in the position of “don’t you dare wolf out on us in this dungeon fearing all the adds I gathered.” If I can see people using ww effectively in pve the way vampire is almost mandatory in pve then I concede that point. And yes pve because let’s face it, like it or not this game is a majority pve game.
They are PvE builds that do that. Combination of the new changes to werewolf and the new sets available in the dungeons. Fortunately that type of damage isn't attainable in PvP due to damage getting cut in half. That would be beyond broken. In fact the changes to the skill line far favor PvE as they diminished the survivability for wolves in PvP in order to boost their damage output.
Edited by BigBragg on August 25, 2018 9:25PM1 -
Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ive already made that point in Aliyavana's thread about this.
Verandis could hide his Vampirism through Illusion Magic because he was a talented High Elf, and even then he didnt hold his Illusion indefinitely. As much as people want to believe casting Magic in Tamriel is not an easy feat. It takes immense talent and concentration to perform complex spells, which Illusion Magic is one of. How are all the Stamina Vampires in the game supposed to suddenly know advanced Illusion Magic? And how are they supposed to keep that Illusion up permanently if all they know how to do is chuck their BattleAxe at people in Cyrodiil?
Yeah, in a world with lets say 100M vestiges the title *Master Vampire* means nothing. Lore at its best.
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✭✭✭✭✭SilverPaws wrote: »SilverPaws wrote: »SilverPaws wrote: »
If you want to be a Vampire, you're going to look like a Vampire. If you don't want to look like a Vampire, then don't be a Vampire. I don't care about what choice you make. What i care about is people accepting the outcome of their choice.
I don't like the look either, so i choose not to be a Vampire and i live without the passives.
Its very simple.
Your arguments are ridiculous.
Why you care about how people want they're vampire characters to look ?
As you said you don't have vampire character so i don't see reason why you should comment here about it.
Because being a Vampire is a physical Affliction. It is a Curse, a Disease, it is not just some passives in a skill tree, you are a Monster, and this particular Monster does not look like any other normal being. This isn't just some armor piece that can hide under a costume that you can take off and put back on willy nilly, Vampirism and Lycanthropy both serious life altering conditions for your Characters that they must live with if they remain afflicted.
Do you think people with Psoriasis can just magically vanish their scarred skin away just cause they don't like the look? And diseases like that don't even provide any benefits to your life. At least in this game your character gets to have advantageous skills and passive abilities over others at the cost of pasty skin and bloodshot eyes.As you said you don't have vampire character so i don't see reason why you should comment here about it.
It's not a good thing to shut out the opposition. If you want something you must fight for it with reason, knowledge, and compromise. Definitely not by telling people who oppose you, "If you don't support us then go away".
I know what vampirism is and yes vampire can hide they're appearance even in eso, we can see that it's possible.
You can say what you want, but you didn't provided any argument why vampires could not alter they're appearance with magic.
Ive already made that point in Aliyavana's thread about this.
Verandis could hide his Vampirism through Illusion Magic because he was a talented High Elf, and even then he didnt hold his Illusion indefinitely. As much as people want to believe casting Magic in Tamriel is not an easy feat. It takes immense talent and concentration to perform complex spells, which Illusion Magic is one of. How are all the Stamina Vampires in the game supposed to suddenly know advanced Illusion Magic? And how are they supposed to keep that Illusion up permanently if all they know how to do is chuck their BattleAxe at people in Cyrodiil?
Really ? I think powerful individual like vestige can learn illusion spell to hide his/her vampirism
And vampires pretty much don't age so they can learn. Doesn't mean when someone swings axe in cyrodiil that he can't learn magic.
I mean we all did fight and defeat a daedric prince. I would guess illusion magic would be easier, but I could be wrong.I see the werewolf line more like a jazzed up rendition of Overload than a direct parallel to vampires.
I also don't thing they should be balanced in accordance to each other, that just leads to homogenization of gameplay and disregard for lore. Let them be utterly different and serve different roles and mechanics. I think that is a great thing. Variety. Not the same car with a different coat of paint.
I wish that too. When they monetized them as “optional” skill lines for flavor not for winning then that is what made them become the same car in two different paint jobs. You can’t sell a Honda and a Jaguar at the same price. Unless it’s an old ugly veiny pale unfashionable Jaguar.
They monetized them as a pair they need to be balanced as a pair.
Right now please tell the build makers and the FOTM chasers that Vampire and Weewolf are equal? No lol we all know that vamp is a clear advantage in passive stats and skills.
Edit: or show me a year long history of WW being recommended as a “must-have” for PVE by the community. Vampire has been “must have” for the number chasers for a long long time.
FoTM has people making 40-50k light attack werewolf builds.
As for the monetization by Zeni, I know they are on the market, but I don't even know people that have paid for a bite in game in forever, let alone buying one from the Crown Store. I believe that is a moot point.
Are these 40k light attack builds for pve? I’d love to see that! I’m still in the position of “don’t you dare wolf out on us in this dungeon fearing all the adds I gathered.” If I can see people using ww effectively in pve the way vampire is almost mandatory in pve then I concede that point. And yes pve because let’s face it, like it or not this game is a majority pve game.
They are PvE builds that do that. Combination of the new changes to werewolf and the new sets available in the dungeons. Fortunately that type of damage isn't attainable in PvP due to damage getting cut in half. That would be beyond broken. In fact the changes to the skill line far favor PvE as they diminished the survivability for wolves in PvP in order to boost their damage output.
I haven’t seen these ww pve builds but I’ll leave that point alone because I don’t doubt that someone somewhere has built around werewolf instead of having werewolf augment their build like vampire does. So point conceded. (They still better not pop werewolf in my dungeon run, fearing all the adds out of my crowd control and making them immune, my job as tank is thankless enough. Pop ww after the adds are down.)
That still leaves me with the other points I brought up.
Listen, vampire could get a free normal skin tomorrow and I wouldn’t blink but let’s not pretend that everyone wouldn’t then just be a vampire. We all know that for a sizable chunk of the player base they’d be a vampire in a hot second if not for the skin. Something like that, which gives a clear advantage to every magicka build, would be even more mandatory than it already is. And as soon as everyone is a vampire, guess who will nerf the ever living snip out of it?#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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DanteYoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »@DanteYoda it's nice to meet someone else who is a fan of The Strain
Yeah i love that show. Good to see Nosferatu Vampires occasionally
That said not being able to hide Vampirism is just lazy and well frankly stupid.. but this is ESO i suppose.Edited by DanteYoda on August 26, 2018 12:40AM1 -
BigBragg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭SilverPaws wrote: »SilverPaws wrote: »SilverPaws wrote: »
If you want to be a Vampire, you're going to look like a Vampire. If you don't want to look like a Vampire, then don't be a Vampire. I don't care about what choice you make. What i care about is people accepting the outcome of their choice.
I don't like the look either, so i choose not to be a Vampire and i live without the passives.
Its very simple.
Your arguments are ridiculous.
Why you care about how people want they're vampire characters to look ?
As you said you don't have vampire character so i don't see reason why you should comment here about it.
Because being a Vampire is a physical Affliction. It is a Curse, a Disease, it is not just some passives in a skill tree, you are a Monster, and this particular Monster does not look like any other normal being. This isn't just some armor piece that can hide under a costume that you can take off and put back on willy nilly, Vampirism and Lycanthropy both serious life altering conditions for your Characters that they must live with if they remain afflicted.
Do you think people with Psoriasis can just magically vanish their scarred skin away just cause they don't like the look? And diseases like that don't even provide any benefits to your life. At least in this game your character gets to have advantageous skills and passive abilities over others at the cost of pasty skin and bloodshot eyes.As you said you don't have vampire character so i don't see reason why you should comment here about it.
It's not a good thing to shut out the opposition. If you want something you must fight for it with reason, knowledge, and compromise. Definitely not by telling people who oppose you, "If you don't support us then go away".
I know what vampirism is and yes vampire can hide they're appearance even in eso, we can see that it's possible.
You can say what you want, but you didn't provided any argument why vampires could not alter they're appearance with magic.
Ive already made that point in Aliyavana's thread about this.
Verandis could hide his Vampirism through Illusion Magic because he was a talented High Elf, and even then he didnt hold his Illusion indefinitely. As much as people want to believe casting Magic in Tamriel is not an easy feat. It takes immense talent and concentration to perform complex spells, which Illusion Magic is one of. How are all the Stamina Vampires in the game supposed to suddenly know advanced Illusion Magic? And how are they supposed to keep that Illusion up permanently if all they know how to do is chuck their BattleAxe at people in Cyrodiil?
Really ? I think powerful individual like vestige can learn illusion spell to hide his/her vampirism
And vampires pretty much don't age so they can learn. Doesn't mean when someone swings axe in cyrodiil that he can't learn magic.
I mean we all did fight and defeat a daedric prince. I would guess illusion magic would be easier, but I could be wrong.I see the werewolf line more like a jazzed up rendition of Overload than a direct parallel to vampires.
I also don't thing they should be balanced in accordance to each other, that just leads to homogenization of gameplay and disregard for lore. Let them be utterly different and serve different roles and mechanics. I think that is a great thing. Variety. Not the same car with a different coat of paint.
I wish that too. When they monetized them as “optional” skill lines for flavor not for winning then that is what made them become the same car in two different paint jobs. You can’t sell a Honda and a Jaguar at the same price. Unless it’s an old ugly veiny pale unfashionable Jaguar.
They monetized them as a pair they need to be balanced as a pair.
Right now please tell the build makers and the FOTM chasers that Vampire and Weewolf are equal? No lol we all know that vamp is a clear advantage in passive stats and skills.
Edit: or show me a year long history of WW being recommended as a “must-have” for PVE by the community. Vampire has been “must have” for the number chasers for a long long time.
FoTM has people making 40-50k light attack werewolf builds.
As for the monetization by Zeni, I know they are on the market, but I don't even know people that have paid for a bite in game in forever, let alone buying one from the Crown Store. I believe that is a moot point.
Are these 40k light attack builds for pve? I’d love to see that! I’m still in the position of “don’t you dare wolf out on us in this dungeon fearing all the adds I gathered.” If I can see people using ww effectively in pve the way vampire is almost mandatory in pve then I concede that point. And yes pve because let’s face it, like it or not this game is a majority pve game.
They are PvE builds that do that. Combination of the new changes to werewolf and the new sets available in the dungeons. Fortunately that type of damage isn't attainable in PvP due to damage getting cut in half. That would be beyond broken. In fact the changes to the skill line far favor PvE as they diminished the survivability for wolves in PvP in order to boost their damage output.
I haven’t seen these ww pve builds but I’ll leave that point alone because I don’t doubt that someone somewhere has built around werewolf instead of having werewolf augment their build like vampire does. So point conceded. (They still better not pop werewolf in my dungeon run, fearing all the adds out of my crowd control and making them immune, my job as tank is thankless enough. Pop ww after the adds are down.)
That still leaves me with the other points I brought up.
Listen, vampire could get a free normal skin tomorrow and I wouldn’t blink but let’s not pretend that everyone wouldn’t then just be a vampire. We all know that for a sizable chunk of the player base they’d be a vampire in a hot second if not for the skin. Something like that, which gives a clear advantage to every magicka build, would be even more mandatory than it already is. And as soon as everyone is a vampire, guess who will nerf the ever living snip out of it?
Anybody really concerned with pushing end game competitively has already made their choice on being a vampire or not. It has nothing to do with the skin when you are watching damage metrics. There are plenty of people that run raids and vet hardmode dlc dungeons without. I will stick by my previous statement:I have to compare Werewolf to Vampire because they are a pair. You can’t do both. You can do both Fighters and Mages. You can do both Thieves and Dark Brotherhood but you HAVE to make a cold hard choice when it comes to Vamp or WW. I wish things were different I do, and I will be on the picket line if they have Vampire every advantage (no need to slot, passive always on, “beautiful” look, and all the in game mitigations to their weakness). There would be 0 reason to not be a vampire. 0. If you had a “beautiful” look what are the negatives to being a vampire that can’t already be solved in game?Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »
If those reasons are "delusional", then eqully so is saying "I want to have a cosmetic option, just because." which proponent opinions boil down to.
so in essence i want the ability to alter the appearance of my vampire because it would make me happy. seems simple enough, that is kinda the entire idea surrounding being able to change outfits, skins, etc. it is for the sake of vanity.
And yet another "Just because..." one.
Okay so your argument is no you can't do it because I don't want you to be happy. It has zero affect on you in the game. None at all. It does have an affect on people who choose to be vampires. Your argument is the very definition of petty.
"The cosmetic appearance of Vampirism is currently the only real negative for a large amount of players, and thus the only reason why they do not want vampirism. If you invalidate the unholy, ghastly and deathly nature of vampires, aka their undeath, you'll essentially make Vampirism a must-have skill-line because it'll be a flat out upgrade."
Then that is a problem with the skill line though I would argue vampirism is no longer near the must it once was. Throw another negative into the skill line to help balance if needed. Not allowing a cosmetic change just because others will then start using the skills doesn't make much sense to me given all the other things cosmetics can hide.
Add another better negative than just the looks and give a normal skin is a better compromise.
Even if it’s a dumb reason, it’s still the reason. If ZOS wanted vampires to be beautiful and powerful they would have done it after the first 10 threads. Now that we are thread 600 or whatever it’s clear they consider it a plausible reason for balance.
You don't have to compare vampirism to lycanthropy at all. That is your choice. Neither one is required in any aspect of the game. You can play competitively in all aspects of end game without them. They are both their own thing and completely optional. Even Zenimax treats and balances them independently, ergo an entire DLC just for our furry friends.
p.s. If people are really so concerned about Vampires becoming mandatory, then there is a much different conversation that should happen about core gameplay mechanics and why those skills are perceived to be mandatory. Cosmetic anything is not an acceptable solution for unbalanced game design.Edited by BigBragg on August 26, 2018 2:09AM0 -
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✭Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »@DanteYoda it's nice to meet someone else who is a fan of The Strain
Yeah i love that show. Good to see Nosferatu Vampires occasionally
That said not being able to hide Vampirism is just lazy and well frankly stupid.. but this is ESO i suppose.
i agree entirely. i do not understand why some people are so against players having optional cosmetic skins for vampires, it does nothing except make me feel happier with my character's appearance.Edited by Matthew_Galvanus on August 26, 2018 11:43AM1 -
Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »@DanteYoda it's nice to meet someone else who is a fan of The Strain
Yeah i love that show. Good to see Nosferatu Vampires occasionally
That said not being able to hide Vampirism is just lazy and well frankly stupid.. but this is ESO i suppose.
i agree entirely. i do not understand why some people are so against players having optional cosmetic skins for vampires, it does nothing except make me feel happier with my character's appearance.
Maybe I know why, but posting this will get me perma-banned.
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✭✭Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »There are so many outfits that i have to hard pass on with my vampire because he looks so damn ugly. I have never understood why you make players choose between sitting at stage 4 to have the most benefits from their passives, but look ugly as sin, or force us to remain at stage 1 or cure ourselves just so we don't look like a horribly bloated pasty sausage.
I'm normally in a full costume 100% of the time, so I mostly don't notice it.
But the hat comes off when I craft, and with jewelcrafting it's actually somewhat painful to see how absolutely hideous I am. It really is a bit excessive on the "how" ugly it is.0 -
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✭✭I'm OK with the cosmetic change to a vamps appearance. It does nothing to their skills or passives.
If you wear every pc of gear in pvp you can't tell who is a vamp unless you use expert hunter. So, I don't see where it would affect pvp players at all.
That's just a stupid arguement. I never know who is a vamp unless I use the skill mentioned above or they run around without a helm or in more revealing gear or costumes.
It's cosmetic, that's all.1 -
DanteYoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »@DanteYoda it's nice to meet someone else who is a fan of The Strain
Yeah i love that show. Good to see Nosferatu Vampires occasionally
That said not being able to hide Vampirism is just lazy and well frankly stupid.. but this is ESO i suppose.
i agree entirely. i do not understand why some people are so against players having optional cosmetic skins for vampires, it does nothing except make me feel happier with my character's appearance.
Spite plain and simple, they will hide behind everything they can think of to never get what they oppose, but really its just spite, they want to see others upset and that pleases them.4 -
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✭Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »@DanteYoda it's nice to meet someone else who is a fan of The Strain
Yeah i love that show. Good to see Nosferatu Vampires occasionally
That said not being able to hide Vampirism is just lazy and well frankly stupid.. but this is ESO i suppose.
i agree entirely. i do not understand why some people are so against players having optional cosmetic skins for vampires, it does nothing except make me feel happier with my character's appearance.
Spite plain and simple, they will hide behind everything they can think of to never get what they oppose, but really its just spite, they want to see others upset and that pleases them.
it's rather sad that some people look for gratification from making others miserable.4 -
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