Since when does a cougar have black legs?

ihazzit · August 2018

Minyassa wrote: »

cougars are one of my favorite big cats. But:

Cougars are not big cats. They're in the small cat family. But you are right, ZOS really messed this one up. Remember they also have a black panther mount and black lion mount and melanism does not exist in either of them. The roar of the lion mount sounds like a drunk person burping.

dodgehopper_ESO · August 2018

There are lots of Tamriel animals that don't look like the real thing. For instance, why do they have Mammoths in the southern jungles of malabal tor? Couldn't they just as easily have had elephants?

RaddlemanNumber7 · August 2018

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

There are lots of Tamriel animals that don't look like the real thing. For instance, why do they have Mammoths in the southern jungles of malabal tor? Couldn't they just as easily have had elephants?

I think if they had elephants in the game then people would want to put a howdah on their back and ride them into battle. Maybe the re-colored mammoths just lets them avoid the issue.

Asardes · August 2018

Riding a cat is also not practical. I tried to saddle one of mine with a very small pillow and it got really pissed off. I escaped with a small scratch. Imagine doing that to a 500 lbs lion or tiger instead of a 10 lbs extremely tame cat

Kiralyn2000 · August 2018

Well, and even beyond the "it's not Earth" thing....

It's not a Cougar. It's a Senche-Cougar. Some kind of wacky crossbreed, presumably with a black-furred Senche.

(and yeah, it's Just Another Bad Reskin, like 90% of the other cats mounts. Why get so worked up over it?)

Delpi · August 2018

And when I thought it was impossible to re-skin, again, the lioness senche...

AlienSlof · August 2018

Less than 2 minutes work adding a new layer in Photoshop and they want 3k for it. Nope. Holding onto my crowns.

ghastley · August 2018

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

I’m shocked this mount even got the green light. It’s like a cougar just finished running through puddles of paint.

They have green lights too??!!

czar · August 2018

ihazzit wrote: »

Cougars are not big cats. They're in the small cat family. But you are right, ZOS really messed this one up. Remember they also have a black panther mount and black lion mount and melanism does not exist in either of them. The roar of the lion mount sounds like a drunk person burping.

I don't usually nitpick, but since you're already doing it... Panther isn't a species. Black panther simply refers to the melanistic version of leopards and jaguars.

Sheezabeast · August 2018

This reskin is almost as poorly executed as the Great Dark Stag *face palms*

Marabornwingrion · August 2018

dave011 wrote: »

Um you guys do know this is Tameral not Earth right? So they can make it how ever they like.

What is Tameral?

SydneyGrey · August 2018

ihazzit wrote: »

Cougars are not big cats. They're in the small cat family. But you are right, ZOS really messed this one up. Remember they also have a black panther mount and black lion mount and melanism does not exist in either of them. The roar of the lion mount sounds like a drunk person burping.

They're big cats.
{I posted a picture here to show the size of a cougar relative to a human, but someone thought it was "innappropriate content" and removed it.}

Also, please do a google search for "melanistic lion." They most definitely can be melanistic. And black panthers are literally the melanistic form of jaguars/leopards.

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TheUrbanWizard · August 2018

FYI don't bother to google black leg cougar in an attempt to prove op wrong, the results aren't helpful

AbysmalGhul · August 2018

Rides into thread on a half Guar half snake mount* Senche Cougar with black legs....C'Mon ZOS! Come back to reality, bruh! *rides away on Guar/snake hybrid*

Sylvermynx · August 2018

@SydneyGrey - yes they are big cats. We have them around all the time here, and I seriously do not want to have to deal with one face to face. I love cats - but the big cats, well, I want them in their own place. Unfortunately, WE are now in their place.... I came close to losing a horse to a cougar a number of years ago. It wasn't a fun thing.

Now, as far as the "black legs": every animal has mutable characteristics. Those which are seriously outside the species norm (in this case, black legs on a cougar) will generally mean the animal will not be accepted by others, and may in fact be killed by the "normals".

And then there's the fact that Nirn is not Earth.

So, guys, if you don't like a cougar with black legs - well, guess that just saved you a bunch of crowns, ain't?

Thunderknuckles · August 2018

ihazzit wrote: »

Minyassa wrote: »

cougars are one of my favorite big cats. But:

Cougars are not big cats. They're in the small cat family. But you are right, ZOS really messed this one up. Remember they also have a black panther mount and black lion mount and melanism does not exist in either of them. The roar of the lion mount sounds like a drunk person burping.

Welllll, adult males average about 8 feet in length. I wouldn't call that small. Edited to add that they can weigh as much as 220 lbs., too.

Mattock_Romulus · August 2018

TheUrbanWizard wrote: »

FYI don't bother to google black leg cougar in an attempt to prove op wrong, the results aren't helpful

Ok i couldn't resist...and apparently the cougar is simply wearing black nylons...so the mount makes sense i believe

Tevalaur · August 2018

Asardes wrote: »

Riding a cat is also not practical. I tried to saddle one of mine with a very small pillow and it got really pissed off. I escaped with a small scratch. Imagine doing that to a 500 lbs lion or tiger instead of a 10 lbs extremely tame cat

@Asardes

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FkOEJ_BIHYE

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1165738/The-man-flies-lion-air-Narnia-style-circus-duos-amazing-performance.html

Zorgon_The_Revenged · August 2018

…..paws for thought....

PlagueSD · August 2018

Cavedog wrote: »

Come on ZOS. Since when do cougars have black legs? What is going on with your art department?

Any chance this coloration mishap could be changed to look more like a cougar?

they walked through some mud?

Naughty_Ryder · August 2018

There is a bad joke somewhere...

Jaraal · August 2018

When it's fully equipped with stamina/speed/capacity, it looks like it has black lace up leggings on, with it's little black mask. I'm thinking a skooma-fueled Khajiit bachelor party went terribly wrong somewhere in Reaper's March, and this poor creature managed to escape with at least a sliver of it's dignity left.

Banana · August 2018

Its the clockwork city edition

ADarklore · August 2018

It's amusing seeing all the people comparing what 'EARTH' animals look like and what 'TAMRIEL' animals look like. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't recall seeing any Storm or Flame cats running around Earth.

Besides that, if you look at many animals species on Earth, many of them have unique variations... albinos, all black, unique color patterns, etc. Also consider that as the 'Vestige' you are the ONLY 'vestige' and the other players running around technically don't exist... which also means the Vestige's mount may be the ONLY one of its kind too.

Further, while I support adding 'variations' and uniqueness to mounts, the fact that this particular mount's legs are all exactly the same color pattern- as if it was dipped in tar- instead of actually making each leg have a different color shape of black. Like having the front or back legs not go up as high, or have spots, etc. It's the fact that the black on each leg is exactly the same that makes it look awful.

Korah_Eaglecry · August 2018

DanteYoda wrote: »

Cavedog wrote: »

Come on ZOS. Since when do cougars have black legs? What is going on with your art department?

Any chance this coloration mishap could be changed to look more like a cougar?

Since its a fantasy world.. Not Earth..

And maybe it ran through the mud to be on time for its photo..

Wish they'd go all out and put orange stripes or something blue stripes.. These boring mounts are too generic.

Yes it is a fantasy world, but they are using a term that most will and obviously have affiliated with the earth cougar. This argument that because its not earth its totally okay, completely ignores that the vast majority of "natural" senches they have introduced have been reflective of a big cat that can be easily recognized or similar enough to be recognized as a earth big cat. Lions, Leopards, Tigers. Now they use the term cougar, do a poor job of conveying that its a cougar and your defense of it is "well its not earth"?

Valrien · August 2018

Minyassa wrote: »

ZOS needs to re-hire the person that knew what cats look like. They've kept their dog person, clearly, all the dogs are spot on. This "cougar" is a travesty. If it actually looked like a cougar, I would've bought it, cougars are one of my favorite big cats. But:

1. The black socks are absurd, have not the slightest basis in reality, and are clearly a desperate attempt to make this look different from a lion by someone who cannot recognize the ACTUAL ways that cougars look different from lions.
2. There is a cougar marking set for Khajiit toons. How in the actual frak did someone not look at that color scheme and just transfer it to the senche mount. WE HAVE COUGAR TOONS FOR FRAK'S SAKE.
3. Google has any number of very clear pictures of the signature white whisker pads surrounded by black and fawn/cream/white color scheme that makes a cougar recognizable. I was drawing cougars that adults would recognize as cougars when I was a 7-year-old child. It's not hard.
4. Now they won't backpedal on this because they never do; it seems that their policy is to double down on cosmetic mistakes (sixth house robe comes to mind) and that means we'll never have an actual cougar-looking cougar.

Please, prove me wrong, ZOS, by all means put a shocked look on my face by actually fixing your bad design choices here. Begging has been proven not to work, so I dare you.

Valrien wrote: »

You know, they don't HAVE to look like real cats :P

@Minyassa

Minyassa · August 2018

Valrien wrote: »

Minyassa wrote: »

ZOS needs to re-hire the person that knew what cats look like. They've kept their dog person, clearly, all the dogs are spot on. This "cougar" is a travesty. If it actually looked like a cougar, I would've bought it, cougars are one of my favorite big cats. But:

1. The black socks are absurd, have not the slightest basis in reality, and are clearly a desperate attempt to make this look different from a lion by someone who cannot recognize the ACTUAL ways that cougars look different from lions.
2. There is a cougar marking set for Khajiit toons. How in the actual frak did someone not look at that color scheme and just transfer it to the senche mount. WE HAVE COUGAR TOONS FOR FRAK'S SAKE.
3. Google has any number of very clear pictures of the signature white whisker pads surrounded by black and fawn/cream/white color scheme that makes a cougar recognizable. I was drawing cougars that adults would recognize as cougars when I was a 7-year-old child. It's not hard.
4. Now they won't backpedal on this because they never do; it seems that their policy is to double down on cosmetic mistakes (sixth house robe comes to mind) and that means we'll never have an actual cougar-looking cougar.

Please, prove me wrong, ZOS, by all means put a shocked look on my face by actually fixing your bad design choices here. Begging has been proven not to work, so I dare you.

Valrien wrote: »

You know, they don't HAVE to look like real cats :P

@Minyassa

ZOS is the one that set a precedent by making their tigers look like tigers, their lions look like lions, their leopard look like a leopard, their lynx look like a lynx, their snow leopard look like a snow leopard, their clouded leopard look like a clouded leopard, etc. ad nauseum. I don't have a problem with fantasy animals. I have a problem with naming MOST fantasy animals a fantasy name (these cats that wear clothes? They're called Khajiit, they came up with a fantasy name for them) and MOST of the ones that are parallel to real-life cats look like real-life cats, and then ONE ridiculously badly done real-life-named cat. That's why we are complaining, people, this is the black-legged sheep of the TESO senche mount family. It's fine they wanted to make a lion have black legs. They should have named it Black-Legged Lion, instead of breaking with precedent for this ONE very annoying instance, which not only uses a real-life name for the wrong-colored cat (again, something they have not done before) but gave us the false hope of seeing a favorite as a mount and blowing those hopes because they've already used that name for the wrong animal.

Worse yet? That baby Raz pet cat IS COUGAR COLORED. All they had to do was use that skin minus the red mohawk and boom, perfect cougar.

Enslaved · August 2018

SydneyGrey wrote: »

ihazzit wrote: »

Cougars are not big cats. They're in the small cat family. But you are right, ZOS really messed this one up. Remember they also have a black panther mount and black lion mount and melanism does not exist in either of them. The roar of the lion mount sounds like a drunk person burping.

They're big cats.

Also, please do a google search for "melanistic lion." They most definitely can be melanistic. And black panthers are literally the melanistic form of jaguars/leopards.

True heroes, with nuclear guns firing from 20 km on animals. *** anyone doing this ***.

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DanteYoda · August 2018

You are all making me want to buy it now to annoy peoples OCD...

malchior · August 2018

It's fantasy. Since when do Elves...actually exist?