YOU might be one shotting, but YOU know the ins and out of the game to max your dps.
New/average players, not so much. and we do need a option for a learning curve where new/average players can learn the game before we get murdered in pvp or where ever.

Completely agree.

Playing expansions/dlc's with any kind of questing and storyline and can't fully enjoy it if you already have high CP chars is pretty boring.

Steamrolling everything is not fun. No sense of danger anywhere.

You have to be AFK parked on a spawn point even to feel any tickle at all, even as a glass cannon PvE character.


But most importantly:
There's no point at all to do any type of questing and explorations together with friends, unless you're doing world bosses.

DBZVelena wrote: »

YOU might be one shotting, but YOU know the ins and out of the game to max your dps.
New/average players, not so much. and we do need a option for a learning curve where new/average players can learn the game before we get murdered in pvp or where ever.

That is just not true though. Let me give you an example: for the past 6 pts cycles before summerset, there was no way to obtain coldharbour ash black dye without beating the main quest with a level 1 character (as if you used the template it bugged and you would not trigger the quest chain past fleeing coldharbour). I, loving the dye, have completed the main questline at least 6 times on the pts with a level 1 character without ever breaking a sweat. Seriously, I never even bothered to gear it up and blasted through it without ever dying once and completely obliterating enemies. There is pretty much no learning curve to overland. Maybe until you reach level 10 it can get tricky sometimes if you re extremely unfamiliar with games, but even then, it's completely doable. With that said, what harm would it cause in allowing for both a normal and a vet mode of overland (you can never play the vet version if you so like)? MInd you, once you grasp the "learning curve", overland is gonna become a pathetic experience. There is no longevity to questing in the current difficulty it currently exists. Also, there are hundreds of quests. to get to level 50 you need what? do half of them? not even that? after that quests become meaningless again. And I am FAR from maxing my dps. I'm hitting 16k on dummies and am not interested at all in vet trials or competitive gameplay. All I want is to be able to enjoy some random normals and enjoy questing. At its current state, as a middle-tier player, questing is ridiculously easy and unrewarding. When buying dlcs and expansions that is a huge downside for me. 5h worth of questing? more like 4h worth of talking to npcs, walking and reading lore and 1h of combat.

There's nothing wrong with the leveling part of the game as it is, not that I've ever one-shotted anything, but if some players find it too easy when replaying with alts perhaps they shouldn't allocate 1,000 CPs quite so soon. Personally, I'd prefer CPs to be character-specific but I'd settle for them not being able to be allocated until a character reaches 50.

Applying a whole new veteran mode to all the game's overland content would involve opening a veritable can of worms balancing-wise, not to mention the time it would take to program and test it. There are other priorities in my view. If the developers have got time to revamp a whole system then let's start with the trading system - even if it is retained it needs a huge amount of work to enhance it for buyers and sellers alike across all the platforms.

If a quest had an option of difficulty it would have to be instance based and if that were the case I would be fine with that. That obviously wouldn't work with every quest but maybe a few here and there.

Overland story content needs to be balanced for people with no CP, green gear, sub optimal or even no sets, poor builds, no consumables.

That’s how we all experience it for the first time. No one starts playing with 4 years of knowledge of minmaxing gear and rotations.

If the content is too easy for you, then you can choose to get rid of all that optimisation. A new player can’t choose to be more experienced and have better gear.

Except that is why I introduced the option of having both normal (as it is now) and vet.

Franieck wrote: »

Except that is why I introduced the option of normal (as it is now) and vet.

But then you split the player base. Experienced players put in vet toggle and never mix with new players. New players think the world is dead.

Guppet wrote: »

But then you split the player base. Experienced players put in vet toggle and never mix with new players. New players think the world is dead.

Why would they need to split the maps? They can just scale down the players stats for those to activate the Veteran Mode and leave rest as it is.

rune476 wrote: »

Guppet wrote: »

But then you split the player base. Experienced players put in vet toggle and never mix with new players. New players think the world is dead.

Why would they need to split the maps? They can just scale down the players stats for those to activate the Veteran Mode and leave rest as it is.

You can do that yourself. Remove your CP and wear trash gear.

jaws343 wrote: »

rune476 wrote: »

Guppet wrote: »

But then you split the player base. Experienced players put in vet toggle and never mix with new players. New players think the world is dead.

Why would they need to split the maps? They can just scale down the players stats for those to activate the Veteran Mode and leave rest as it is.

You can do that yourself. Remove your CP and wear trash gear.

Yeah, I tried that... even then overland is pathetically easy haha

jaws343 wrote: »

You can do that yourself. Remove your CP and wear trash gear.

Why then add raids to the game when we can do public dungeons naked? Why add dungeons when delves without CP are tougher.

You see where im going with this? Disregarding a players choice in armor/build, asking them to strip down in order to have a challenging experience sounds like a bad idea to me.


"Sorry mannimarco, i cant fight you just yet im still wearing pants"

"Remove CP" doesn't work, because the larger issue is having a good skill build & a firm understanding of the game mechanics (stats, buffs, rotations, animation canceling, etc).

A player who doesn't understand all that stuff will struggle even with a good build & gear.
A player who does understand all that, can beat up quest mobs with a rusty teaspoon.
And turning off your knowledge of gameplay isn't quite as easy (or reasonable).