I agree. I think public instancing is at the root of all the "bugged quest" posts I'm seeing on the boards and all the raging I'm seeing ingame in zone chat.

It's a bad design choice, and until someone can work out how to disable spawn coding to ignore people crowding spawn points, it'll never be "fixed". Either that, or a total rework of all public instances into private ones and institute encounter scaling.
Or, only allow max team size amounts of players into the instance before sharding off another one.

Now I'm no coding genius, but there -has- to be some way to do this that's not so wonky and frustrating.

Well spawn camping appears to be a norm - there is a group in Daggerfall that just spawn camps the werewolf.

I just feel like everytime I go into a dungeon I see a whole flurry of people. I've literally made it through a dungeon without having to fight anyone because all the enemies are already dead or ill get randomly attacked by an enemy I didn't even aggro. I just find it annoying.

I had the same feeling in Stros M'Kay and Betnikh all the time. You can just stroll through the dungeons and pass all the dead bodies.

A bit more instancing would've made the first few levels a LOT more interesting.

And seeing that I am playing and leveling with a bunch of friends, I keep asking myself why there aren't a few heroic Quests you can only do in a group?

Back in my day all dungeons were public and you sat in one room mob grinding for xp.

I hate it too. Part of the reason I didn't buy the game

Victt wrote: »

Lol.. What am I reading? I wouldn't even consider these dungeons, more so public maps people go in to do a part of a quest. The REAL dungeons are the instanced ones, which you cannot do solo. You get into that at 10+. They're hard, though very fun.

^^This

I personally love the public dungeon system. Is it overcrowded right now? Sure it is! Was the xp nerfed into oblivion? Hell yes it was! But think about the game a couple months or so from now, and how few players you're going to see in these places, and I'm sure they'll adjust the xp later on.

I like that while in a solo dungeon another player can come by and help out with killing the mobs. I think it helps immersion to be reminded that you're not the only hero in the world and other adventurers can come in searching for loot just like you.

This is also a great way to meet people around your level too. Try talking to that person next to you that's helping you kill mobs. Maybe get a group going for the instanced dungeons, or maybe just chit chat. Hell, you never know.

I personally hate seeing other players while in solo dungeons too. Not only limited to dungeons but caves, rooms, houses or any sort of instanced quest area aswell. It ruins any immersion you might have in the game and serves no beneficial purpose to anyone. It simply has no place. I wish they would give me my own private instance for any inside area to quest in. If possible, maybe even extended to outside small encampents. They could do great things with their phasing system here. For those saying that the player amount will diminish over time and you won't see as many players in your quest areas, I don't buy it. Even if there is a single guy there in ANY of the quest areas that I am in, it's unwelcome.

I'd like peoples opinion on this. Can you think of anything positive to this? Do you agree with my post? Also, does anyone know wether or not Zenimax plans to change any of this?

I like it. it brings the reality to the game. We all hate it when we go to WalMart and EVERYONE is in the isle we want to go to, but that's life. Such as in a cave or dungeon. just because your creeping around in there, doesn't mean some other character isn't doing to same thing (or looking for the same shampoo)

Ya I am annoyed with the groups running around shooting everything. The encounters are supposed to be harder as you level and they are.... IF you are alone. And that is a massive IF as you are never alone. Boss fight at the end of the quest? 3 random people walks in on you and turns it into a joke fight. I am hoping higher levels with give me a little room to breathe.

Got to think of it another way. As servers are in early access and even when they release will be massive influx of players so expect 30 people in same spot early on. As these power levellers grind past you and players quit or get obsessed with some other game as gamers tend to do. . . There will be less people crowding spots. I was 5 day access and just before the 3 day started i ran back to earlier areas and literally found NOONE. I gathered loads of crafting mats that way too once the initial rush is over things will stabilize and be better. Plus as another said the best dungeons are the private group ones and they are awesome!

eq2imora_ESO wrote: »

Back in my day all dungeons were public and you sat in one room mob grinding for xp.

In Soviet Russia, Dungeon grinds you!

I have a love / hate thing with the public dungeons. It's all about balance. Since a lot of these dungeons seem tuned for one person, it's a bit of a face-roll when a group goes through.

I like stumbling across someone about to die and helping them out, and I enjoy that when it happens to me as well. But I also like the tension when I'm in one alone with no one around to bail me out if I get in over my head.

Overall - I think there are too many players in each phase/instance or whatever.

Yes, it's a shame the solo content is rather poor in this game. The only truly fun areas I've done are those that were instanced.

It's amusing seeing 15+ people camping the boss spawn point, constantly swinging weapons and obliterating it in seconds. Sometimes it takes a few spawns to get kill credit due to the insta-death of the boss.

Laura wrote: »

This calms down as people spread out. its like this at first but instancing everything would make it more like a single player game which people complained about a LOT in swtor. I really enjoy it the way it is and have made a lot of friends in those instances.

This is an MMO not a single player game and I prefer it that way.

I respectably disagree with you.