Easy and HUGE FPS increase with this ONE simple trick, core usage and how to change it.

Ragebull · August 2018

What’s a core?

rfennell_ESO · August 2018

The biggest performance improvement I've seen to date was deleting my ini file and letting the game rebuild it for summerset.

A lot of the "improvements" I played with and copied from the internet being totally eliminated was surprisingly effective.

starkerealm · August 2018

SlippyCheeze wrote: »

SiegeMerchant wrote: »

OP, before post that false advices like in first post, please reseach first LOL

In fairness, if there was an old default of 1, that would explain the different behaviour; I have a recent clean install, and I know that UserSettings.txt isn't rewritten during patching. So, while not completely covering the reasons why, it seems that the OP may well have a different experience to someone with a new, clean install.

Originally the game did not, natively, support multi-core systems, and would preferentially run on a single core. Either Dragon Bones or Summerset changed that, and brought in full multi-core support.

starkerealm · August 2018

Ragebull wrote: »

What’s a core?

A processing unit. Multiple processing units on a single chip are referred to as multicore. While there's only one physical chip, multicore systems are, functionally, multiple processors running in tandem.

smacx250 · August 2018

SlippyCheeze wrote: »

SiegeMerchant wrote: »

OP, before post that false advices like in first post, please reseach first LOL

In fairness, if there was an old default of 1, that would explain the different behaviour; I have a recent clean install, and I know that UserSettings.txt isn't rewritten during patching. So, while not completely covering the reasons why, it seems that the OP may well have a different experience to someone with a new, clean install.

They changed the name of the parameter (made a new one) for the 4.0 release by adding a ".4" to the end of it, so it couldn't have an old value from an old settings file, since it didn't exist before.

ItsNebula · August 2018

starkerealm wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

ItsNebula wrote: »

SlippyCheeze wrote: »

ItsNebula wrote: »

Bakkagami wrote: »

not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.

-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)

I'm also running with the default, -1, and ... can tell you with certainty that whatever problem the OP is describing is unrelated to this. Either they had it set to (positive) 1, or something else was causing the issue. The game uses more than one core.

It defiently doesnt use more than 1 by default. If it did, i wouldnt have noticed a good 10-15 FPS increase

It does. “I have an fps increase” does not mean “it uses only one core” in any way. That is a logical fallacy.

Specifically, post hoc ergo proctor hoc, if anyone's keeping score. Though, confirmation bias is also an option, especially given that performance in ESO can vary wildly based on the current scenario in game.

EDIT: Derp. I shouldn't post when I'm this tired. But, yeah, @Woeler's right. The game is supposed to be running on multiple cores now. There've been a number of under-the-hood performance changes this year, including multi-core support. So, this "hack" should be unnecessary.

Additionally, like I said, performance in ESO can swing wildly based on what's going on around you, so saying you saw a 10-15 FPS improvement is fairly meaningless unless it's consistent over an extended period and under controlled circumstances.

For example: run Sanctum Ophidian a couple times, with and without this tweak, and see if it changes anything.

All i do is PvP, whenever my small group and i come across a large siege, its 20FPS or less, ever since i did this little change ive been at a constant 33+ FPS in large siege.

Same trick has worked for some of my friends, some have had large changes in FPS, others just had small changes, others had no change. Ig it just really depends on your PC

Thogard · August 2018

I wonder how many people are going to have to tell neb that -1 is all of your cores before he actually believes it.

ItsNebula · August 2018

Thogard wrote: »

I wonder how many people are going to have to tell neb that -1 is all of your cores before he actually believes it.

If -1 is all cores, id love to know why i got a 10-15 FPS increase when i did -4

Sordidfairytale · August 2018

To be fair, when I'm doing editing, rendering, or compositing work I dedicate one core and part of my RAM to the system so that the software I'm using doesn't starve the rest of my system of resources. Perhaps the OP inadvertently set 4 of 8 cores to the game and the other 4 cores are now free to run the rest of the system?

Soris · August 2018

Isn't that "max core -1" means whatever core you have minus one. So if i have 4 cores, game will use 3 at max.

Asking this with all honestly, i have zero knowledge about this.

SodanTok · August 2018

ItsNebula wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

I wonder how many people are going to have to tell neb that -1 is all of your cores before he actually believes it.

If -1 is all cores, id love to know why i got a 10-15 FPS increase when i did -4

Put -1 there again and tell us how you lost 10-15 fps

Mintaka5 · August 2018

At first glance I read "Easy and HUGE DPS increase with this ONE simple trick".

I is sad now.

ItsNebula · August 2018

SodanTok wrote: »

ItsNebula wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

I wonder how many people are going to have to tell neb that -1 is all of your cores before he actually believes it.

If -1 is all cores, id love to know why i got a 10-15 FPS increase when i did -4

Put -1 there again and tell us how you lost 10-15 fps

I gladly will put back -1 , back to what it previously was, and go back to 60FPS with a 63 max, then i will go back to -4, where im getting 70+ FPS at a constant rate

Jayman1000 · August 2018

That value is the default -1 for me but cpu utilization is still pretty great, all 8 cores having steady usage for ESO, some of the cores having more than others, but that seems normal. Saw no difference when I tried to change it. But if it works for you and others that is great

ItsNebula · August 2018

Jayman1000 wrote: »

That value is the default -1 for me but cpu utilization is still pretty great, all 8 cores having steady usage for ESO, some of the cores having more than others, but that seems normal. Saw no difference when I tried to change it. But if it works for you and others that is great

Im assuming at this point it also depends on what else is in your system. I went back to -1 and dropped back to 60 FPS, went back and stayed at -4 and im back at 70+ FPS, others have had huge changes, small changes or no changes. Others had just simple changes as to where they may have not had a consistent FPS, but now they do

D0PAMINE · August 2018

@ItsNebula Tried this last night and it didnt do anything different.

runagate · August 2018

I changed that parameter's value to "@casparian is a mewling newbie" and my game wouldn't launch.

I infer this to mean the setting doesn't do anything.

Also, casparian sounds like Fiona Apple for some reason.

DanteYoda · August 2018

Avnr wrote: »

enable Hyperthreading in the CMOS

thanks me later

Not every cpu uses hyperthreading.. I5 cannot

And mines apparently set to 4 by default.

Heka Cain · August 2018

Seems like op's potato needed a boost in the fps department!

ItsNebula · August 2018

Heka Cain wrote: »

Seems like op's potato needed a boost in the fps department!

well if a potato can run 60+ FPS and now 70+ at max graphics then sure

ItsNebula · August 2018

D0PAMINE wrote: »

@ItsNebula Tried this last night and it didnt do anything different.

then youre prolly apart of the % of ppl where it doesnt do anything

WaltherCarraway · August 2018

or just swap to Intel i7 8700K.

Jayman1000 · August 2018

Heka Cain wrote: »

Seems like op's potato needed a boost in the fps department!

Do not underestimate the power of the potato!

Lysette · August 2018

Hayden_Knight wrote: »

i get terrible fps especially in pvp and i have an 8 core AMD medium / high end rig.. im going to give this a try tonight and change the -1 to -8. if i notice a change for better or worse ill edit this post to say.

EDIT :- Not really noticed anything.

doesn't surprise me - -1 normally means, use as many cores as are available with the current setting - if it is not a performance setting, one or more cores stay unused to not block out background tasks. In a performance setting it might use all cores - which is not necessarily an advantage in FPS, if you have already good graphics hardware with plenty of VRAM.

Lysette · August 2018

runagate wrote: »

I changed that parameter's value to "@casparian is a mewling newbie" and my game wouldn't launch.

I infer this to mean the setting doesn't do anything.

Also, casparian sounds like Fiona Apple for some reason.

Now I have to watch "criminal" again - duh.

Hostee · August 2018

Sooooo how do I change this setting for my PS4 ? Riddle me that BATMAN!!

BloodPaws · August 2018

Hostee wrote: »

Sooooo how do I change this setting for my PS4 ? Riddle me that BATMAN!!

PS4 for sale, or swap for pc.

Thogard · August 2018

Ragebull wrote: »

What’s a core?

The speediest way to the naboo

Lenox · May 2020

Hmm, my computer is still using only 1 of its 12 logical processors for ESO.

SpiderCultist · May 2020

it's safer to do this via task manager. CTRL + ALT + DEL -> select ESO process -> set to as many cores as you want

also settings like this one (in UserSettings.txt)

SET MinFrameTime.2 "0.00833333"

uncaps the 100 FPS limit to 120