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Easy and HUGE FPS increase with this ONE simple trick, core usage and how to change it.
ItsNebula
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I just recently found out myself, and i feel like a good amount of people dont know about this either..
By default (Idk why its default) ESO is ONLY using up 1 core.. personally i have a quad-core and ESO is now using all of them, and it was a pretty large FPS increase for me and a steady FPS now.
What was the increase? A good 10-15 FPS, used to cap at only about 62, now i can get about 76 at a max, and this helps a LOT while in combat.
Now, how do you do it exactly?
Windows>Computer>Documents>Elder Scrolls Online>Live>User Settings..
NEXT!
Do CTL+F for a search bar and search "Core" you will see a number that says "-1" (Default" change it to how many cores you have.
Duel core? Do -2, quad? -4... 6 core? -6.... 10 core? -10.
You're welcome!
By default (Idk why its default) ESO is ONLY using up 1 core.. personally i have a quad-core and ESO is now using all of them, and it was a pretty large FPS increase for me and a steady FPS now.
What was the increase? A good 10-15 FPS, used to cap at only about 62, now i can get about 76 at a max, and this helps a LOT while in combat.
Now, how do you do it exactly?
Windows>Computer>Documents>Elder Scrolls Online>Live>User Settings..
NEXT!
Do CTL+F for a search bar and search "Core" you will see a number that says "-1" (Default" change it to how many cores you have.
Duel core? Do -2, quad? -4... 6 core? -6.... 10 core? -10.
You're welcome!
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max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I thought the answer was going to be a “roll sorc” troll thread with that kind of click bait style title.
I’m disappointed and impressed that it was actual advice.Edited by max_only on August 5, 2018 8:07PM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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Bakkagami✭✭✭not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.16 -
LordSkyKnight✭✭✭✭✭I thought you were going to tell us to call an obscure phone number with a guy answering with a heavy accent asking us to go to money gram to send a check to make our computer run the game better.
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ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭I thought the answer was going to be a “roll sorc” troll thread with that kind of click bait style title.
I’m disappointed and impressed that it was actual advice.
Any title you can think of that wont seem like it would be a troll/click bait thing?
I wasnt to sure what to name this0 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.
-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)0 -
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✭It will not solve server-sided lagg...Natch Potes is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're gonna get10 -
SlippyCheeze✭✭✭not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.
-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)
I'm also running with the default, -1, and ... can tell you with certainty that whatever problem the OP is describing is unrelated to this. Either they had it set to (positive) 1, or something else was causing the issue. The game uses more than one core.1 -
Bakkagami✭✭✭not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.
-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)
it's typically -1. 0 is typically used as just 0 - none, the system wouldn't distinguish between 0 or -0.1 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭Shadow-Fighter wrote: »It will not solve server-sided lagg...
Read the title. "FPS" not "How to solve server side lag"3 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭SlippyCheeze wrote: »not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.
-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)
I'm also running with the default, -1, and ... can tell you with certainty that whatever problem the OP is describing is unrelated to this. Either they had it set to (positive) 1, or something else was causing the issue. The game uses more than one core.
It defiently doesnt use more than 1 by default. If it did, i wouldnt have noticed a good 10-15 FPS increase0 -
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✭i get terrible fps especially in pvp and i have an 8 core AMD medium / high end rig.. im going to give this a try tonight and change the -1 to -8. if i notice a change for better or worse ill edit this post to say.
EDIT :- Not really noticed anything.Edited by Starlight_Knight on August 7, 2018 7:59PM2 -
Bakkagami✭✭✭SlippyCheeze wrote: »not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.
-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)
I'm also running with the default, -1, and ... can tell you with certainty that whatever problem the OP is describing is unrelated to this. Either they had it set to (positive) 1, or something else was causing the issue. The game uses more than one core.
It defiently doesnt use more than 1 by default. If it did, i wouldnt have noticed a good 10-15 FPS increase
It does use more than 1 by default, however 1 or 2 will normally take most of the load, in my case, 4 of my 8 cores will get noticeable usage when running with 2 of them getting the most utilization.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SlippyCheeze wrote: »not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.
-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)
I'm also running with the default, -1, and ... can tell you with certainty that whatever problem the OP is describing is unrelated to this. Either they had it set to (positive) 1, or something else was causing the issue. The game uses more than one core.
It defiently doesnt use more than 1 by default. If it did, i wouldnt have noticed a good 10-15 FPS increase
After Summerset release, the default was changed to -1, and the entry name was slightly changed as well.3 -
Shadow-Fighter✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shadow-Fighter wrote: »It will not solve server-sided lagg...
Read the title. "FPS" not "How to solve server side lag"
sorry but messing up changing the settings will not help.
You should have deeper understanding of the API to change the settings, otherwise it would cause
unexpected issues on both side. Our high-end computers are fine, the issue is on ZOS.SlippyCheeze wrote: »not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.
-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)
I'm also running with the default, -1, and ... can tell you with certainty that whatever problem the OP is describing is unrelated to this. Either they had it set to (positive) 1, or something else was causing the issue. The game uses more than one core.
It defiently doesnt use more than 1 by default. If it did, i wouldnt have noticed a good 10-15 FPS increase
Do you have Win/Win7/Win10 or Mac?Natch Potes is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're gonna get1 -
max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I thought the answer was going to be a “roll sorc” troll thread with that kind of click bait style title.
I’m disappointed and impressed that it was actual advice.
Any title you can think of that wont seem like it would be a troll/click bait thing?
I wasnt to sure what to name this
No need to change it, it was funny and eye catching. Most clickbait articles have the phrase “one simple trick” in them so that’s the correlation I was making. You’re good #FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"We also often see people making modifications to that file and then recommending those same modifications to other people. While well-intended, this can often lead to problems because no two people are likely to have the same PC hardware, so if you have modified your UserSettings file, we definitely recommend letting the game make a new one for you. We only recommend changing those settings if you have a solid understanding of how it will impact your machine."
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5161587#Comment_5161587signing off10 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭Shadow-Fighter wrote: »Shadow-Fighter wrote: »It will not solve server-sided lagg...
Read the title. "FPS" not "How to solve server side lag"
sorry but messing up changing the settings will not help.
You should have deeper understanding of the API to change the settings, otherwise it would cause
unexpected issues on both side. Our high-end computers are fine, the issue is on ZOS.SlippyCheeze wrote: »not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.
-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)
I'm also running with the default, -1, and ... can tell you with certainty that whatever problem the OP is describing is unrelated to this. Either they had it set to (positive) 1, or something else was causing the issue. The game uses more than one core.
It defiently doesnt use more than 1 by default. If it did, i wouldnt have noticed a good 10-15 FPS increase
Do you have Win/Win7/Win10 or Mac?
Windows 7 pro, i hate W102 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭"We also often see people making modifications to that file and then recommending those same modifications to other people. While well-intended, this can often lead to problems because no two people are likely to have the same PC hardware, so if you have modified your UserSettings file, we definitely recommend letting the game make a new one for you. We only recommend changing those settings if you have a solid understanding of how it will impact your machine."
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5161587#Comment_5161587
It wont affect your PC, maybe if you have no idea what youre doing and doing more than changing how many cores you use.
Everyone changes how many cores a game uses... CSGO, CoD, BF, Overwatch etc.. ESO is perfectly fine to change core usage0 -
PlagueSD✭✭✭✭✭
✭Usually in config files, -1 is the default for "use as many as present". A positive value would be a static "use X number". The game USED to only use 1 core by default. The "SET MaxCoresToUse" has a value of "1". Users changed this to whatever number of cores they had manually. For instance, in my system, I set it to SET MaxCoresToUse "4". Now, ESO officially supports multiple CPU cores and they address this by setting that value to "-1". I even notice the name of the setting is changed. It shows as "SET MaxCoresToUse.4" I'm assuming the .4 means it's currently set to use 4 cores.
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It does. “I have an fps increase” does not mean “it uses only one core” in any way. That is a logical fallacy.SlippyCheeze wrote: »not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.
-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)
I'm also running with the default, -1, and ... can tell you with certainty that whatever problem the OP is describing is unrelated to this. Either they had it set to (positive) 1, or something else was causing the issue. The game uses more than one core.
It defiently doesnt use more than 1 by default. If it did, i wouldnt have noticed a good 10-15 FPS increase
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It does. “I have an fps increase” does not mean “it uses only one core” in any way. That is a logical fallacy.SlippyCheeze wrote: »not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.
-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)
I'm also running with the default, -1, and ... can tell you with certainty that whatever problem the OP is describing is unrelated to this. Either they had it set to (positive) 1, or something else was causing the issue. The game uses more than one core.
It defiently doesnt use more than 1 by default. If it did, i wouldnt have noticed a good 10-15 FPS increase
Specifically, post hoc ergo proctor hoc, if anyone's keeping score. Though, confirmation bias is also an option, especially given that performance in ESO can vary wildly based on the current scenario in game.
EDIT: Derp. I shouldn't post when I'm this tired. But, yeah, @Woeler's right. The game is supposed to be running on multiple cores now. There've been a number of under-the-hood performance changes this year, including multi-core support. So, this "hack" should be unnecessary.
Additionally, like I said, performance in ESO can swing wildly based on what's going on around you, so saying you saw a 10-15 FPS improvement is fairly meaningless unless it's consistent over an extended period and under controlled circumstances.
For example: run Sanctum Ophidian a couple times, with and without this tweak, and see if it changes anything.Edited by starkerealm on August 6, 2018 9:16AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭Hayden_Knight wrote: »i get terrible fps especially in pvp and i have an 8 core AMD medium / high end rig.. im going to give this a try tonight and change the -1 to -8. if i notice a change for better or worse ill edit this post to say.
If It is the FX series, I wouldn't call it high end. If anything FX is considered trash tier for gaming in terms of both price to performance, and performance in general.(Sadly I had to use one myself, it was a very cheap deal but I'm still regretting it) IF Its an 8 core ryzen, then its a lot different of course, but I highly doubt this method will give you any results at all, so don't get your hopes up, the most crazy lag issues are usually created by server issues and bad game code, not your cpu.Edited by Ragnarock41 on August 6, 2018 1:12PM1 -
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The ".4" was added to make it a new parameter name for the ESO "4" (Summerset) multi-core release. It will be named with ".4" regardless of the number of cores actually used (and it can use more than 4 cores).Usually in config files, -1 is the default for "use as many as present". A positive value would be a static "use X number". The game USED to only use 1 core by default. The "SET MaxCoresToUse" has a value of "1". Users changed this to whatever number of cores they had manually. For instance, in my system, I set it to SET MaxCoresToUse "4". Now, ESO officially supports multiple CPU cores and they address this by setting that value to "-1". I even notice the name of the setting is changed. It shows as "SET MaxCoresToUse.4" I'm assuming the .4 means it's currently set to use 4 cores.1 -
SlippyCheeze✭✭✭SlippyCheeze wrote: »not to be the cynic but i would be careful messing with those if your not certain of how it works. I can't say for certain in this case but the "-1" value is usually used to tell the system to use all cores whereas any positive number would tell it to use a specific number of cores. Of course, i can't speak to the hows and whys of your specific experience but just thought I'd point that out so people know to be careful.
-0 would be to use all your system cores, depending on how the games coded im pretty sure, but in most games a "-0" means to use all of X (In this game X being cores)
I'm also running with the default, -1, and ... can tell you with certainty that whatever problem the OP is describing is unrelated to this. Either they had it set to (positive) 1, or something else was causing the issue. The game uses more than one core.
It defiently doesnt use more than 1 by default. If it did, i wouldnt have noticed a good 10-15 FPS increase
Your system may not have. I promise you that, without changing anything, my system came out of the box configured to use -1 cores, which then ran on multiple of them.
I have no idea what the difference is, but it is absolutely not as simple as "ESO always runs on one core unless you change things".0 -
SlippyCheeze✭✭✭enable Hyperthreading in the CMOS
thanks me later
Like "unpark your cores", this is something that will (a) be done by default for people who didn't foolishly do something else by hand, and (b) probably not deliver the benefits touted, since finding a CPU with less than four physical cores is hard these days, so the extra 4 virtual cores will not get much use.0 -
SlippyCheeze✭✭✭SiegeMerchant wrote: »OP, before post that false advices like in first post, please reseach first LOL
In fairness, if there was an old default of 1, that would explain the different behaviour; I have a recent clean install, and I know that UserSettings.txt isn't rewritten during patching. So, while not completely covering the reasons why, it seems that the OP may well have a different experience to someone with a new, clean install.0
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