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Can I Please Get an In-Depth Explanation of why Sorc is OP
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✭✭✭webrgesner wrote: »Me and another friend of mine play magsorc and were good at it. Even we both admit rune cage is op thats why we use it. Its obvious it is op. Shield stacking is equally strong as vigor i have no problem with shields. if you cant get through a players shield your build/burst just sucks. #BRING BACK FRAG CC
So you admit using a a broken spell and still pretend to be good at anything? that's funny
Tell me a good magplar burst Combo involving class skills, that could burst a sorc. It's quiet difficult, huh?
Yeah, hide behind your ez mode pretending you could do what others can't just because you choose the low skill way of ESO.
Dark flair -> dark flair -> javelin -> execute. 99% of cyro is dead with this combo if they let you cast in uninterrupted.
There you go...
ANY class / combo in this game can instantly kill you if you just stand there like an idiot. And thats what people do against sorcs. I trow a Curse, meaning they have 3,5sec untill anything happens. But nooo! it's my class thats OP when they choose too ignored my burst lineup. lol?
The combo really isn't comparable because it is both blockable and dodgeable. The absence of counterplay besides LOS is what makes sorc burst oppressive.
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Yeah... lemme Purge Rune Cage real quick...webrgesner wrote: »Me and another friend of mine play magsorc and were good at it. Even we both admit rune cage is op thats why we use it. Its obvious it is op. Shield stacking is equally strong as vigor i have no problem with shields. if you cant get through a players shield your build/burst just sucks. #BRING BACK FRAG CC
So you admit using a a broken spell and still pretend to be good at anything? that's funny
Tell me a good magplar burst Combo involving class skills, that could burst a sorc. It's quiet difficult, huh?
Yeah, hide behind your ez mode pretending you could do what others can't just because you choose the low skill way of ESO.
Dark flair -> dark flair -> javelin -> execute. 99% of cyro is dead with this combo if they let you cast in uninterrupted.
There you go...
ANY class / combo in this game can instantly kill you if you just stand there like an idiot. And thats what people do against sorcs. I trow a Curse, meaning they have 3,5sec untill anything happens. But nooo! it's my class thats OP when they choose too ignored my burst lineup. lol?
The combo really isn't comparable because it is both blockable and dodgeable. The absence of counterplay besides LOS is what makes sorc burst oppressive.
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nemvar✭✭✭✭✭webrgesner wrote: »Me and another friend of mine play magsorc and were good at it. Even we both admit rune cage is op thats why we use it. Its obvious it is op. Shield stacking is equally strong as vigor i have no problem with shields. if you cant get through a players shield your build/burst just sucks. #BRING BACK FRAG CC
So you admit using a a broken spell and still pretend to be good at anything? that's funny
Tell me a good magplar burst Combo involving class skills, that could burst a sorc. It's quiet difficult, huh?
Yeah, hide behind your ez mode pretending you could do what others can't just because you choose the low skill way of ESO.
Dark flair -> dark flair -> javelin -> execute. 99% of cyro is dead with this combo if they let you cast in uninterrupted.
There you go...
ANY class / combo in this game can instantly kill you if you just stand there like an idiot. And thats what people do against sorcs. I trow a Curse, meaning they have 3,5sec untill anything happens. But nooo! it's my class thats OP when they choose too ignored my burst lineup. lol?
The combo really isn't comparable because it is both blockable and dodgeable. The absence of counterplay besides LOS is what makes sorc burst oppressive.
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Yeah let me just waste my entire magicka pool purging curses. Good idea.
Maybe you should also stop using shields if somebody is using shieldbreaker. It will probably work out fine for you.4 -
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✭✭✭webrgesner wrote: »Me and another friend of mine play magsorc and were good at it. Even we both admit rune cage is op thats why we use it. Its obvious it is op. Shield stacking is equally strong as vigor i have no problem with shields. if you cant get through a players shield your build/burst just sucks. #BRING BACK FRAG CC
So you admit using a a broken spell and still pretend to be good at anything? that's funny
Tell me a good magplar burst Combo involving class skills, that could burst a sorc. It's quiet difficult, huh?
Yeah, hide behind your ez mode pretending you could do what others can't just because you choose the low skill way of ESO.
Dark flair -> dark flair -> javelin -> execute. 99% of cyro is dead with this combo if they let you cast in uninterrupted.
There you go...
ANY class / combo in this game can instantly kill you if you just stand there like an idiot. And thats what people do against sorcs. I trow a Curse, meaning they have 3,5sec untill anything happens. But nooo! it's my class thats OP when they choose too ignored my burst lineup. lol?
The combo really isn't comparable because it is both blockable and dodgeable. The absence of counterplay besides LOS is what makes sorc burst oppressive.
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Yeah let me just waste my entire magicka pool purging curses. Good idea.
Maybe you should also stop using shields if somebody is using shieldbreaker. It will probably work out fine for you.
Depends on how they use Shieldbreaker. Just LA spam? Yeah, no shields. If they're using it for weaves you can probably outheal it with Healing Ward and Rapid Regen.
And yea, what else are you really gonna use your MP for?Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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✭✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
Yeah... lemme Purge Rune Cage real quick...webrgesner wrote: »Me and another friend of mine play magsorc and were good at it. Even we both admit rune cage is op thats why we use it. Its obvious it is op. Shield stacking is equally strong as vigor i have no problem with shields. if you cant get through a players shield your build/burst just sucks. #BRING BACK FRAG CC
So you admit using a a broken spell and still pretend to be good at anything? that's funny
Tell me a good magplar burst Combo involving class skills, that could burst a sorc. It's quiet difficult, huh?
Yeah, hide behind your ez mode pretending you could do what others can't just because you choose the low skill way of ESO.
Dark flair -> dark flair -> javelin -> execute. 99% of cyro is dead with this combo if they let you cast in uninterrupted.
There you go...
ANY class / combo in this game can instantly kill you if you just stand there like an idiot. And thats what people do against sorcs. I trow a Curse, meaning they have 3,5sec untill anything happens. But nooo! it's my class thats OP when they choose too ignored my burst lineup. lol?
The combo really isn't comparable because it is both blockable and dodgeable. The absence of counterplay besides LOS is what makes sorc burst oppressive.
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ChefZero✭✭✭✭Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Do not expect a detailed explanation
All you will read is " Rune cage OP nerf " without any argument.
The waters on this one get muddied a bit when you get into the details. Most players (well, most good players) don't have a problem with Rune Cage. The problem is that Rune Cage sometimes bugs out Break Free, and players with full stamina pools are held down because of some issue in the code of the skill (I have heard that the same complaint exists for DKs Fossilize and NBs Fear).
So, we have a class with tremendous burst damage output with an effectively unbreakable CC and an execute that doesn't need to be cast in execute range, and I'm sure you can figure out why people would call them OP, even if their real complaint is a technical issue, and not a balancing issue.
Edit: Oh, and one of the most powerful shields in the game. And one of the best magicka mobility/escape skills.
That's a good summary.
Basically the main problem in ESO is the availability to increase your damage and defense by the same values in most build's (the reason why healer's are useless in 90% of PvE contant). Shields are generally strong in PvE, in PvP I wouldn't admit that shield sorcs are OP. Annoying yes. If you difference defense abilities between preventive and reactive you should admit that preventive skills like shields and reflect are especially stronger in PvP than heal owed the lag.
Rune cage stunability isn't that big problem, more the buggy break free. But if you're fighting a sorc you should know that you're debuffed with 5k to 8k less health, called fury. While fighting another class, your health drops and you could cast healing ward, los or Dodge roll a sorc will delete your health bar. Silly.
Another more hidden thing is the heavy armor magicka meta because of the strong stamina builds buffs sorcs as well. With LA and harness magicka most magicka build's shouldn't have a problem with handling sorcs.PC EU - DC only1 -
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✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
Shields are easy to burst and only last 5 seconds though. All you really have to do is count to 4 and CC. Their shields will fall off, even if they CC break and you'll get a chance to hit at their health.
Plus the stamina pool is pretty low so they can only CC break so much.
Shields don't seem the reason it is OP. Rune Cage is hit or miss, both using it and being hit by it but most of the time it can be broken out of.
you dont pvp enough then cause no their not easy to burst lol fight someone who has a 20k shield and hits the button every couple seconds. you cant kill them their damage dealing super tanks. thats the main issue that sorcs are op and rune cage isnt a hit or miss to much as its broken but as i said thats getting fixed thank god.
What sorc has a 20k shield in PvP???
Nearly every single one that gets low on health and casts healing ward and then hardened ward?5 -
NupidStoob✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »First: They excel at killing bad players. Bad players fail to understand how to build for or react to a sorc burst combo, and simply fall over dead, and respawn here on the forums to complain. The forget that EVERY class has a direct counter to a sorc burst. DKs can reflect half of it with wings, Wardens can absorb half with shimmering shield, Templars can purge it away, and Nightblades can simply vanish when cursed, forcing a sorc to reset the combo. Again, bad players struggle with this because they miss the obvious signs that a sorc combo is coming, fail to do any of the above, and eat the whole thing at once when the sorc does what they were designed to do, line up burst combos.
Great point.
On top of that there is also mistform, defensive ults, immovable pots and line of sight.
People have brought forth many great points of why magSorc is in fact not op, but so many people refuse to even read them...
If magSorc is so op (especially 1v1) how come they don't win decent dueling tournaments? Please someone enlighten me.
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Shadowmaster✭✭✭✭Why - Because someone in ESO who is in charge of balance needs to learn more.
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✭They can deal powerful timed burst at max range - maxed range execute. stupid CC and stupid passives. ( Implosion and cheep ulti ). can disengage fights whenever they are struggling.
They're not un-killable but they do have the best toolkit.
All sorcs should go earn 1 million AP on a magden before they complain how hard they have it.
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✭✭✭They aren’t. But psychologically, if you don’t understand how sorc works they sure would seem very overpowered. This is because for one, the class is designed around delayed burst which is a blessing and a curse. Well, if you don’t understand how it works or how to counter it (which it is the most counterable and telegraphed class in the game) then all you see is the explosion and not the layers of skills and attacks that went into it. This is unlike other classes that can kill as quickly if not faster but in a more visible manner. Secondly, shields make it seem like a sorc is ignoring all your damage and nothing touches the Sorcs health, when in reality a sorc is 1-2 global cool downs from death at any given moment under the shields against a competent opponent. Most heavy armor builds are significantly more durable, but because their health bars move due to being based on healing, it doesn’t seem that way.
You combine these two ideas with the fact that bad and unknowledgeable players tend to whine and cry a lot more and you get an idea of why complaints on sorc is so prevalent.4 -
MrDenimChicken✭✭✭✭✭sorc can stack burst attacks to all happen at once and rune cage can be timed to occur when all those burst attacks go off at once. And burst is everything in this game to take people down. Also sorcs can put 3 very strong shields on, and it's the equivalent of doubling their health but that 1st half of their health bar cannot be crit, so you end up with a light armor char being the tankiest person out there.6
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CeeJonesy✭✭✭Sorcs aren't op but they are very strong at the moment with the break free lag on rune cage and sadly because this is easily exploitable by running in a zerg to make the game laggier than it needs to be a lot of people cannot deal with it.
In some cases if you are getting chased near a keep the game lags so much you cannot break free at all and then there is the issue of cc immunity not working in lag so it is chain spammed. Because of this a lot of people are crying out rune cage is op sorc is op which makes more people run the class and creates a loop of complaining/people jumping on sorcs.
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✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
I will tell you why sorcs are perceived as OP in PVP by the masses.
First: They excel at killing bad players. Bad players fail to understand how to build for or react to a sorc burst combo, and simply fall over dead, and respawn here on the forums to complain. The forget that EVERY class has a direct counter to a sorc burst. DKs can reflect half of it with wings, Wardens can absorb half with shimmering shield, Templars can purge it away, and Nightblades can simply vanish when cursed, forcing a sorc to reset the combo. Again, bad players struggle with this because they miss the obvious signs that a sorc combo is coming, fail to do any of the above, and eat the whole thing at once when the sorc does what they were designed to do, line up burst combos.
Second: Bad players have trouble killing sorcs. They only see health bars, which on a good sorc dont move a lot. They fail to understand how, or simply dont have the damage to pressure a sorcs shields. A good player can keep a sorc in full shield spam mode, which can only last for so long. Finally, as they only see health bars, they miss the fact that ultimately the way to kill a good sorc is to pressure their stamina pool, while keeping them on the defensive.
Third: They have a lower barrier of entry to play. They are a ranged class and have pretty straight forward offensive and defensive rotations. It is certainly an easier class to pick up, get some kills and feel like you are being effective. If a brand new NB and Sorc fight, my money is prob on the sorc. If the best of the best fight, the NB will win every time.
Fourth: Low MMR BGs over value killing blows, and that is one thing that sorcs certainly excel at doing. They have a unique execute that is pretty good a kill stealing. This is really only a BG issue. If endless fury kills you in open world, you were already dead.
Sorcs are not the best 1vx class, they are not the best damage class for a PVP raid, they dont make the best healers or tanks, they dont typically win the high end dueling tournaments, and you will never see more than one in a good pre made BG group. They are a one trick pony on offense, and have good defense against a single player. Again, rune cage is overtuned (this patch only), but its one skill and the #nerfsorc nonsense has been going on for years. The only time sorc has been truly OP was from a PVE perspective shortly after they reworked pets, but that is a distant memory at this point.
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erm yes? because with it they are still in light armor while most of rest classes is forced now to go into heavy armor so they are losing their buffs to damage from med and light armor
and not every class have great access to great healing:
- every stam char in medium armor have crap vigor healing without mending buff which dont have everyone, in heavy armor healing is more efficient for stam char
magdens, magplars are forced to be in heavy armor to just surivive, I cant even remember when I meet last time templar in ligh or even magden while still having great healing and dont be able to get ez 1shot because of low resists
about mag dk Im not sure as they at all are mostly perm blockers with it so?
so most classes need to pass on their max damage to get more even healing or tankniess to not get 1shot, you have active deffense in shields which prefent you from any 1shot behind them and thats why every sorc dont even plan his burst someone in fight without still shields up
That's only because you fail to understand the logic of light armor. Light armor is all about damage shield absorbtion. You are supposed to be constantly casting in light armor and the only way to survive, is by using shields, no matter what class. All classes have access to annulment, steadfast ward and some others. Nightblades, Sorcerers do it and so can any other class.
Every class can perfectly wear light armor. The thing is though, it's hardly worth it in my opinion. You have to spam so many abilities, you won't even profit from the extra magicka sustain and the extra damage is underwhelming in pvp, as light armor does nothing against damage shields. Light armor is good in pve, just as medium armor is. But as for pvp, light armor actually offers little compared to medium and heavy. And light armor is the only with a pretty useless passive that does not synergize with the playstyle, spell warding. It's a terrible and totally useless passive, even when your shields are off.Edited by Dracane on August 4, 2018 9:14PMAuri-El is my lord,
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Gprime31✭✭✭✭None of this is what makes them op , well very strong at least. It is the fact that they can stack into offense and get free defense, no other class can do that, have to balance out offense with defense, sorcs can go 5-1-1 all well fitted and shields carry them, while going offensive, having great sustain and capable of 20-30k burst.
Sorcs, again, don't have great sustain.
And this is also untrue, as spell damage, magicka, and spell crit (and the stamina equivalents for Momentum and Vigor) affect both damage and heals, and maximum magicka affects Harness/Dampen, which all magicka builds have access to.
Guess you’ve never played a magsorc? Infinite sustain when built correctly and massive burst. Do your research before you spam incorect information.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I genuinely don't see it. They can be countered pretty well.
The reasons don't matter. The people that moan about sorcs ALWAYS will moan about sorcs.
Even when sorcs hit like a wet lettuce people moaned. Remove cage, remove wards still they will moan.
Mainly as new people don't know how to counter, neither do bad players. So jumping on the band wagon always gets votes.
It's dull and boring. And at times embarasing when the same people moan on. BUT if you Sorc you have to get used to it.
Personally id prefer to fight a sorc than any class. They predictable, telegraphed, and most don't ward properly.Xbox One | EU | EP
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✭✭None of this is what makes them op , well very strong at least. It is the fact that they can stack into offense and get free defense, no other class can do that, have to balance out offense with defense, sorcs can go 5-1-1 all well fitted and shields carry them, while going offensive, having great sustain and capable of 20-30k burst.
Sorcs, again, don't have great sustain.
And this is also untrue, as spell damage, magicka, and spell crit (and the stamina equivalents for Momentum and Vigor) affect both damage and heals, and maximum magicka affects Harness/Dampen, which all magicka builds have access to.
Guess you’ve never played a magsorc? Infinite sustain when built correctly and massive burst. Do your research before you spam incorect information.
You mean sorcs pigeonholded into 2 sustain sets? Sure, we have good sustain, and yes because people are unwilling to purge/cleanse the curse and the execute, we get a nice amount of burst. Tho without a rune cage (with dmg) that burst is not enough for anything. Or you can trow in a ult, and it still aint nuthing. By the time my burst is ready again the enemy is back on 100% health and we're back at it.
Why cant people understand that with a sorc it's like this:
You line up burst, things hit in timely fashion = stuff dies
You fail at burst, things hit randomly = stuff dont die!
And no, trowing an execute on someone elses target does not count. Rather ask for a change in BG scoring then change to an ability.
So if you die to a sorc, know that you let that sorc free cast for 3,5sec. And franctly, ANY class combo can kill you if you let them free cast for 3,5sec.Edited by Kikke on August 4, 2018 11:01PMCleared Trials:
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✭✭webrgesner wrote: »Me and another friend of mine play magsorc and were good at it. Even we both admit rune cage is op thats why we use it. Its obvious it is op. Shield stacking is equally strong as vigor i have no problem with shields. if you cant get through a players shield your build/burst just sucks. #BRING BACK FRAG CC
So you admit using a a broken spell and still pretend to be good at anything? that's funny
Tell me a good magplar burst Combo involving class skills, that could burst a sorc. It's quiet difficult, huh?
Yeah, hide behind your ez mode pretending you could do what others can't just because you choose the low skill way of ESO.
Dark flair -> dark flair -> javelin -> execute. 99% of cyro is dead with this combo if they let you cast in uninterrupted.
There you go...
ANY class / combo in this game can instantly kill you if you just stand there like an idiot. And thats what people do against sorcs. I trow a Curse, meaning they have 3,5sec untill anything happens. But nooo! it's my class thats OP when they choose too ignored my burst lineup. lol?
The combo really isn't comparable because it is both blockable and dodgeable. The absence of counterplay besides LOS is what makes sorc burst oppressive.
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Yeah let me just waste my entire magicka pool purging curses. Good idea.
Maybe you should also stop using shields if somebody is using shieldbreaker. It will probably work out fine for you.
We do stop using shields when someone uses shieldbreaker. ofc? unless we can manage to outheal the dmg, because only zergbads are using shieldbreaker. Anyone that has learned how to PvP knows that sorc is the easiest class to beat.
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Micah_Bayer✭✭✭✭✭webrgesner wrote: »Me and another friend of mine play magsorc and were good at it. Even we both admit rune cage is op thats why we use it. Its obvious it is op. Shield stacking is equally strong as vigor i have no problem with shields. if you cant get through a players shield your build/burst just sucks. #BRING BACK FRAG CC
So you admit using a a broken spell and still pretend to be good at anything? that's funny
Tell me a good magplar burst Combo involving class skills, that could burst a sorc. It's quiet difficult, huh?
Yeah, hide behind your ez mode pretending you could do what others can't just because you choose the low skill way of ESO.
Dark flair -> dark flair -> javelin -> execute. 99% of cyro is dead with this combo if they let you cast in uninterrupted.
There you go...
ANY class / combo in this game can instantly kill you if you just stand there like an idiot. And thats what people do against sorcs. I trow a Curse, meaning they have 3,5sec untill anything happens. But nooo! it's my class thats OP when they choose too ignored my burst lineup. lol?
The combo really isn't comparable because it is both blockable and dodgeable. The absence of counterplay besides LOS is what makes sorc burst oppressive.
Then try meteor fossilize then power lash with 3 dots on you. Or incap fear assassins will.0 -
Micah_Bayer✭✭✭✭✭Micah_Bayer wrote: »webrgesner wrote: »Me and another friend of mine play magsorc and were good at it. Even we both admit rune cage is op thats why we use it. Its obvious it is op. Shield stacking is equally strong as vigor i have no problem with shields. if you cant get through a players shield your build/burst just sucks. #BRING BACK FRAG CC
So you admit using a a broken spell and still pretend to be good at anything? that's funny
Tell me a good magplar burst Combo involving class skills, that could burst a sorc. It's quiet difficult, huh?
Yeah, hide behind your ez mode pretending you could do what others can't just because you choose the low skill way of ESO.
Dark flair -> dark flair -> javelin -> execute. 99% of cyro is dead with this combo if they let you cast in uninterrupted.
There you go...
ANY class / combo in this game can instantly kill you if you just stand there like an idiot. And thats what people do against sorcs. I trow a Curse, meaning they have 3,5sec untill anything happens. But nooo! it's my class thats OP when they choose too ignored my burst lineup. lol?
The combo really isn't comparable because it is both blockable and dodgeable. The absence of counterplay besides LOS is what makes sorc burst oppressive.
Then try meteor fossilize then power lash with 3 dots on you. Or incap fear assassins will.
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✭✭✭Viscous119 wrote: »
Did you read my signature or any other post in this thread?
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✭my pve sorc just wasted a stamsorc in pvp...
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✭✭✭✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »my pve sorc just wasted a stamsorc in pvp...
#micdrop
If all you had to do is kill from range, being a PVE anything can hurt. It’s when pressure is on the PVE build where it should fold. Granted, if you are pro at keeping at least 1 shield up, you do get around that weakness, but that’s any class so I don’t find it fair to say it means anything about sorc. RC obviously requires s medium armor anything to go higher health.
I’m not 100% for where sorcs are at now either. I have one but honestly dislike the play style although I’d favor a ranged class. I just think it gets overblownEdited by technohic on August 5, 2018 1:35AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Viscous119 wrote: »
Did you read my signature or any other post in this thread?
I am very pro-Sorc lol
He didn't even read the part he quoted."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle1 -
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Yeah let me just waste my entire magicka pool purging curses. Good idea.
Maybe you should also stop using shields if somebody is using shieldbreaker. It will probably work out fine for you.
We do stop using shields when someone uses shieldbreaker. ofc? unless we can manage to outheal the dmg, because only zergbads are using shieldbreaker. Anyone that has learned how to PvP knows that sorc is the easiest class to beat.
scrubs be scrubs, eh?
But its too much fun watching you melt
I mean I could kill you on my Templar but watching Sorcs fizzle into ash is quite a fun little twist to the game.0 -
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✭✭usmguy1234 wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
Shields are easy to burst and only last 5 seconds though. All you really have to do is count to 4 and CC. Their shields will fall off, even if they CC break and you'll get a chance to hit at their health.
Plus the stamina pool is pretty low so they can only CC break so much.
Shields don't seem the reason it is OP. Rune Cage is hit or miss, both using it and being hit by it but most of the time it can be broken out of.
Exactly...so easy to nuke a sorc if you understand their rotation and can count to 5.
i'm not sure some of these whiners can even count to four. <shrug>rfennell_ESO wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
Shields are easy to burst and only last 5 seconds though. All you really have to do is count to 4 and CC. Their shields will fall off, even if they CC break and you'll get a chance to hit at their health.
Plus the stamina pool is pretty low so they can only CC break so much.
Shields don't seem the reason it is OP. Rune Cage is hit or miss, both using it and being hit by it but most of the time it can be broken out of.
you dont pvp enough then cause no their not easy to burst lol fight someone who has a 20k shield and hits the button every couple seconds. you cant kill them their damage dealing super tanks. thats the main issue that sorcs are op and rune cage isnt a hit or miss to much as its broken but as i said thats getting fixed thank god.
What sorc has a 20k shield in PvP???
Nearly every single one that gets low on health and casts healing ward and then hardened ward?
is healing ward an exclusively sorc skill?
this is news.
my hardened ward is 9k in pvp, btw.
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