leepalmer95 wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

roll dodge isnt "to powerful" its meant to give you a free dodge. but the issue where people get 10 or 20 of them from a roll comes from the gear and abilities used. you can almost get a 100% dodge chance right now on stamina which is unreal.

Dodging more than 2 times is risky because its so costly.

Not sure where 10 or 20 comes from.

I think he means 10-20 dodges from rolling a couple of times.

Well I got counterplay but still... I need to be 8m from them I am not sorc/stam I am mag DK, and it kinda feels like a waste to keep chains on my bar for roll dodgers, but sometimes I do not understand why it says dodged when I use chains on roll dodging NB even though it should be unblockable/undodgeable right? and it doesn't pull them even though they have no CC immunity. Are immovable potions able to counter chains? If so that would explain it. And I use radiant magelight not inner light, so that I am not stunned from sneak

Recon4thCav wrote: »

This is what happens when pve'ers come to pvp.

That is the most constructive and wise message of the topic... Shows your age I guess... Instead of explaining like most do you just go straight ahead to being an a**hole.

To be fair, res is kinda op if you stack all the time reductions (templar, support, kagranac) for it. You can revive an entire zerg all by yourself in just a few seconds.

It isn't a huge problem and I'm not sure what could be done about it.

Jamdarius wrote: »

Well I got counterplay but still... I need to be 8m from them I am not sorc/stam I am mag DK, and it kinda feels like a waste to keep chains on my bar for roll dodgers, but sometimes I do not understand why it says dodged when I use chains on roll dodging NB even though it should be unblockable/undodgeable right? and it doesn't pull them even though they have no CC immunity. Are immovable potions able to counter chains? If so that would explain it. And I use radiant magelight not inner light, so that I am not stunned from sneak

Recon4thCav wrote: »

This is what happens when pve'ers come to pvp.

That is the most constructive and wise message of the topic... Shows your age I guess... Instead of explaining like most do you just go straight ahead to being an a**hole.

Your problem is that you are using chains. Chains is one of the worst skills in PVP unless you Xv1. It gives your target free cc immunity and basically zero cost, costs a lot and is dodgeable.

Petrify is just a much better CC in every situation.

Champion points are a main source of unbalance in this game.

Op, try playing in non-cp campaigns and, in one shot, you won't have to deal anymore with permablocking magdks, infinite shield stacking magsorcs, healing bots and endlessy rolling Nbs.

Everything is reasonably beatable

Stop using rock against their paper. Light attack, snare, drain psn during the roll spam. Use scissors and play surgically.

Do not smash buttons or spam skills in hopes of success.

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »

That said, I do also wish that DoTs kept up through roll dodges and cloak, just because they're a main part of the magDK toolkit.

Since when can you dodge roll an already applied DoT? What you see is the dot surpression from cloak.

This might be cause by huge lags on Vivec though... like bombers jumping through keeps doors being repaired to rip off profits from dudes that repair.

Recommend removing all skills form pvp, all cp, weapon, set and racial bonuses. set physical and magical armor at cap ignoring everything else.
Game is now balanced, enjoy.

Draxys wrote: »

Dodge roll is already hurting magicka builds really badly, and they are necessary sometimes due to how insanely inflated damage has become these days. Break free, dodge a root, block an ult, zero stamina, dead. Magicka can’t really bear another blanket dodge roll nerf. I don’t think it’s overpowered on a medium build, maybe a little overtuned.

Nah medium's are quite squishy and everything seems to go through roll nowadays.

Jamdarius wrote: »

Well I got counterplay but still... I need to be 8m from them I am not sorc/stam I am mag DK, and it kinda feels like a waste to keep chains on my bar for roll dodgers, but sometimes I do not understand why it says dodged when I use chains on roll dodging NB even though it should be unblockable/undodgeable right? and it doesn't pull them even though they have no CC immunity. Are immovable potions able to counter chains? If so that would explain it. And I use radiant magelight not inner light, so that I am not stunned from sneak

Jamdarius wrote: »

Ofc I preffer petrify but how else can I catch up with mag sorc that runs away with his skill without any real gap closer??? or should I just not give them chase and let them spam rune cage from so far away? Also still doesn't answer how come dodge rollers can avoid chains bringing them back near me when they do not have CC immunity buff on them.

Immov pots, if up, will also show the CC immunity swirl at their feet. A fast moving target can also outrange chains before the cast completes. Shuffle will sometimes proc on chains. Both morphs can be cloaked.

Use the other morph, Empowering Chains. It doesn't CC, it's unblockable and undodgeable, gap closes you to the target and grants you Major Expedition for a few seconds. And that means you can chain -> fossilize if they don't have CC immunity or chain -> talons if they do. Fair warning: pets, engine guardian, ball of lightning and NPCs can all be chain targets. This is great when you want the speed buff but lousy when your enemy is dodge dodge dodging away at 5% health.

Sorcs you are probably not going to catch unless you have them tab targetted or they streak directly away, since they can streak twice and be out of range before you get a target lock. Don't chase the sorc. Don't chase the stam sorc/stam blade/stam warden around the tower. Let it go. Your class is not equipped to fight on their terms.

DuskMarine wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

roll dodge isnt "to powerful" its meant to give you a free dodge. but the issue where people get 10 or 20 of them from a roll comes from the gear and abilities used. you can almost get a 100% dodge chance right now on stamina which is unreal.

Dodging more than 2 times is risky because its so costly.

Not sure where 10 or 20 comes from.

i ran into a stamplar who roll dodged once and dodged every hit for the next 10-20 attacks you couldnt even touch the guy. also cant forget the guys who sit on horses and dodge stuff as well.

E.g. Meridias?

DuskMarine wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

roll dodge isnt "to powerful" its meant to give you a free dodge. but the issue where people get 10 or 20 of them from a roll comes from the gear and abilities used. you can almost get a 100% dodge chance right now on stamina which is unreal.

Dodging more than 2 times is risky because its so costly.

Not sure where 10 or 20 comes from.

i ran into a stamplar who roll dodged once and dodged every hit for the next 10-20 attacks you couldnt even touch the guy. also cant forget the guys who sit on horses and dodge stuff as well.

Also shuffle?

nope just roll dodged one time. not sure on sets he was wearing cause he had on nord heavy armor on outfit.

Regardless i think you're exaggerating.

no im not. but it was when the dodge builds came out into the highest fruition in the game. but some still run those builds and dodge like madmen. and the horse thing i dont even understand how that happened and neither could the group i was with either.

You mean 1.6? Believe me no one dodges like 1.6 anymore.

When has roll dodge ever killed anyone?

Roll dodge is too powerful?

Is this the Dark Souls Fextralife?