Fiveboro wrote: »

Mag DK is still an amazing PVP class, change my mind.

My new light arm build is hitting very hard IMO. 5L/1M/1H Shacklebreaker, Burning Spellweave, Bloodspawn (Sword & Board/Resto). I've also been running flame staff + skorias and the burst has me feeling like a sorc.

Clip below is first S&B setup, sustain is bad because I'm using garbage Cyrodil food:

https://xboxclips.com/WashmyHeights/16f7c0df-7ccc-4b67-93cc-dbfc7ee456f3/embed

I run:
5h/1L/1m

2 Valkyn Skoria
5 Innate Axiom
3 Bloodthorns jewelry w/ back bar Ice Staff
Willpower Sword and Shield offensive bar

Tri-Stat food
Vampire - 3rd stage
Spell Power Pots so I can forego degeneration and inferno

@Fiveboro Some comments for the OP:


1) First off, well done in that game! 15-6-22 is really good!

2) Why are you so zoomed in?? You can’t see what’s going on around you.

3) Why do you have Flames of oblivion on your “back bar”? You would get more damage output if you swapped it with Petrify to your “damage bar” because of the spell crit it gives.

4) Lastly, how does your char stand up to pressure? It didn’t look like you received much attention that game. DK’s are not the best at putting out burst damage but they can be very good at taking heavy damage while putting out consistent pressure from their strong dots. Put an efficient sorc or nightblade behind you and y’all can mow through your opponents.

I honestly don’t understand why so many people run light armor mag dk’s. It seems like an easy kill to me when I encounter a light armor dk. Meanwhile, on my heavy armor dk, I can take a TON of damage and still BURN my enemies

@flacidstone

I won’t have a chance to send a screenshot of my character sheet fully buffed until tomorrow night. I tried to make a best guess right now but I’d probably get a lot of the info wrong. Also, the innate axiom 5th piece bonus won’t show on the character sheet.

I use tri-stat glyphs for my head, chest and legs, and magicka glyphs on all the small pieces. My jewelry is all arcane although I think tri-stat jewelry would be good too now if you can get it. I use magicka cost reduction glyphs on my rings (crucial for magicka toons) and a spell damage glyhp on my neck piece.

I use all impen armor, except I believe my shield may be sturdy. On this, I’d be interested to know if all sturdy gear would work better. With tri-stat food and glyphs you have a large stamina pool and with an ice staff and shield you get great blocking passives so having that block cost reduction would be really great. You could potentially be close to perma-blocking but then your crit resistance would be crap. I’d like to try it but haven’t put in the resources. My sword is nirnhoned and my bloodthorn ice staff is either decisive or nirnhoned, I can’t remember right now.

I’ll try to upload a screenshot/video of my build and maybe a little gameplay clip so you’ll have something to build off of.

By the way, what platform and server do you play on? I’m Xbox NA.

@callen4492 I’m also Xbox NA. I was curious how much sturdy would be necessary for the blocking as I’ve never used a toon that relied on it didn’t know if sturdy on small pieces was worth it or one infused ring with block reduction jewelry. Definitely worth looking into once I mess around with it a little. I’ll start setting it up tonight but shoot me request on Xbox, same name as forums. I like the idea of blood spawn for the extra ult gain and passive sustain it offers through that. Mainly looking for a way I can play my mag dk in outnumbered situations. As my current destro resto set up with skoria,bsw, and overwhelming, is just far too squishy against more than 3 people.

I just started playing my mDK again in PvP after about a year of not playing. I used to run 5 Heavy, but hated it, so now I am trying out 5 Light work-in-process build. Looking for advice/critique.

Note: This is for no-CP Cyrodil and maybe BGs.

The build I am playing with is 5x Rattlecage, 5x Wizard's Riposte, 2x Grothdar. 5L/2H. DW swords front bar sharp/infused (will switch the sharp to nirn when I get the transmute crystals), Defending Resto back bar. Tri-stat food, tri-pots. 1 spell cost reduce glyph, 1 magicka recovery glyph, 1 spell power glyph.

Skills:

Front -
Flame Lash, Burning Embers, Fossilize, Burning Talons, Cauterize, Leap

Back -
Elusive Must, Volatile Armor, Flaps (Snare Removal morph), Engulfing Flames, Coagulating Blood, Devouring Swarm ulti.

I played a few hours with this last night and liked it a lot more than my previous experience with heavy armor builds. I have some thoughts already on how I might change it or things to try out, but would definitely like some feedback, particularly from a no-CP perspective.

First, on why I chose the gear. I think mDK has too many good skills to spend a slot on a Major Sorcery buff. I also feel like I need the Tri-pots in between ultimate use. Therefore, I liked Rattlecage as a damage set. I've also had a good experience with my light armor magade using Wizard's Riposte, so I chose that to get me to 5pc Light armor as well as a general defensive set for no-CP play. I went with DW over fire staff because, again, I couldn't fit a staff skill on that front bar for the bonus damage passive. I went with resto for the heavy attack magicka sustain as well as the low-health bonus healing passive. Grothdar I just chose as a general damage set as I already had Impen traits for this, but I could do Skoria or Zaan as well.

The biggest thing that stood out to me when playing this build is the lack of a gap closer in my setup and it's REALLY painful trying to get into melee range. I could go with chains, but I really want to try out swift jewelry on this character. I have tried swift on my Stam Sorc with just 2 pieces and it has been real nice. Has anyone tried it on mDK and has an opinion on it? If it works well, it again would save a skill slot.

I don't like engulfing flames on my back bar and want to move it to the front, but am not sure what to move. Probably either Fossilize or Cauterize. If I go with chains for a gap closer, I also want that on the front too, so that makes this a difficult choice. I kept fumbling over my bar swaps to try and get this ability into play, which ended up getting me killed often. This is definitely a L2P issue, but I feel having engulfing on the front would make a clearer damage vs survive bar setup and reduce that issue a bit.

I've never used Stone Giant before and am curious if it might be a better choice over Fossilize, especially if I go with swift vs chains, due to the range.

Damage was a bit lower than Axiom or Sun, which I expected, but felt fine. Survivability seemed good unless I just jumped into the middle of the enemy zerg. I had a couple successful (small) 1vX encounters, which was amazing for me because I am bad at PvP. Sustain was the biggest surprise in that it was good, but that is probably due to my glyphs. I might change out the recovery glyph for spell damage.

I know this is long, but I would absolutely appreciate any thoughts or critiques!

@TheStealthDude

I would definitely run a lot more spell DMG glyphs, for me, the damage ends up being way more beneficial than recovery because a lot of your healing on DK (burning embers) is going to be based off of damage. Also, running elemental drain will help a lot.

I've been running the s/b front resto back light arm build in shacklebreaker + BSW + bloodspawn which has been amazing for BGs. Front bar: whip, talons, embers, fossilize, flames of oblivion. Back Bar: healing ward, wings, volatile armor, entropy, harness magicka. (if you're on Xbox NA I have a lot of clips @washmyheights)

I saw a new light armor build earlier today im going to run tonight which looks dope and verrry close to what you're already running. Flame Destro/Resto 5x sun 5x wizard's riposte, 2x skoria/grothdarr. Front bar: elemental drain, whip, fossilize, chains, flame of oblivion. Back bar: mutagen, healing ward, volatile armor, wings, entropy.

Based on your post i think that second build would be nice for you to try out. You got flames of oblivion and chains on your front bar.

Also, one last point and sorry if you clearly know this but no build for a DK should not include fossilize. Best cc in the game and cannot be left out otherwise DKs are bad.

Skoria, axiom, riposte jewels+back bar 1hs, and front bar willpower works great for me in BGs. The game has evolved beyond MDKs for open world. I never bring mine into cyrodill anymore because I value my controller and sanity.

Qbiken wrote: »

DTStormfox wrote: »

I would advise Weltenbrecher's Magicka DK build.
You can find his channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjgyj7VkZI5zImDy2vKU0NQ/videos

Last time I fought him in Cyrodil he was running around with Durok´s Bane + Wizards Riposte + Bloodspawn. Cheese as hell, but gets the job done.

Don´t be that DK xD

I run one of his older builds with the 2H (Sun + Wizards). I am not that DK ;-)