Bruccius wrote: »

Waiting for the

''Cyrodiil is a PvP zone, expect PvP!'' comments...

Oh wait, they're already here, a shame people seem to have forgotten that Cyrodiil is also a PvE zone, yet PvE is made practically impossible because of PvP, even in locations where there are no Alliance War elements implemented, save for literally killing someone.

I'm honestly surprised it took you this long to figure out that the PvP players in this game are, generally speaking, the lowest of the low. Been two years since I first figured that out, kept going to Cyrodiil anyway, only to be proven right pretty much every time.

Because there's really no place in Cyrodiil that's solely a PVE zone. The PVE quests are simple because they are designed to be done with the threat of PVP. The entire zone is a PVP zone that happens to have some PVE elements. I used to be PVE only when I first went to Cyrodiil for fish and skyshards, but I understood that I was walking into a PVP zone.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Cyrodiil myself. Largely because if you are trying to do something PvE related (quests, skyshard hunting, etc), and you get ganked, it's a ridiculously long horse ride to get back to where you were.

Some ideas off the top of my head (your mileage may vary with success rates):

1.) Create a perma-stealth outfit. In my case, I use Night's Silence (Crafted, ignore movement penalty of Sneak) and Darkstride (Rivenspire found set, reduces cost of Sprint and Sneak by 50%). Craft medium and put in a few stealth-related Medium Armor perks to help maximize it, but you don't need to go crazy with further Sneak cost reductions (like spending CP), as the above alone makes 20K worth of Stamina last a LONG time while in stealth. You can't mount, but if you have the resources, crafting Night's Silence jewelry or transmuting Darkstride (or other) jewelry with "Swift" traits can help your travel speed greatly while avoiding any casual ganking.

My stealth set has eliminated most of the stress of Cyrodiil, and I was able to explore in relative peace. Keep some invis potions handy as well, just in case. Also, there are sets that reduce detection radius, etc, but these I found weren't quite as useful around NPCs with ubervision.

2.) Create a high-health/defense outfit. In my testing, I could not remain stealthed while fishing, meaning you're an open target. Since gankers rely on dropping you to zero health instantly, PvE builds that have 15-20k health are susceptible. I haven't personally tried this in Cyrodiil, but I have a tank that uses Fortified Brass and Plauge Doctor. If there's a way to build around just surviving, maybe you can stretch the battle on long enough that they get the hint and leave. Heals and shields are half as effective, but might help also. Look over tank builds and see what works.

3.) Bring a buddy to play lookout/chaperone. Have them maintain a large AoE, strategically placed to break stealth of someone trying to get within combat range. Plus, they can help in combat if someone does try to kick up a fuss. On the flipside, though, some AoEs are flashy and may actually draw attention.

4.) Try not to let it get to you. The event is a good time to hop into one of the limited-time newly-added (and often low-population) campaigns, but as others have mentioned, everyone is out for blood because double AP. If it's really getting your goat, research PvP builds and take vengeance upon those who have wronged you with bloody, bloody murder.

Hope this helps a little!

The achievement exists to get you in Cyrodiil so that gankers can have someone to gank. You do realize this right? Same thing with the Skyshard achievement. This is an opportunity to get a bunch of friends together to all get the achievement together because there is safety in numbers.

Bruccius wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Bruccius wrote: »

Waiting for the

''Cyrodiil is a PvP zone, expect PvP!'' comments...

Oh wait, they're already here, a shame people seem to have forgotten that Cyrodiil is also a PvE zone, yet PvE is made practically impossible because of PvP, even in locations where there are no Alliance War elements implemented, save for literally killing someone.

I'm honestly surprised it took you this long to figure out that the PvP players in this game are, generally speaking, the lowest of the low. Been two years since I first figured that out, kept going to Cyrodiil anyway, only to be proven right pretty much every time.

Because there's really no place in Cyrodiil that's solely a PVE zone. The PVE quests are simple because they are designed to be done with the threat of PVP. The entire zone is a PVP zone that happens to have some PVE elements. I used to be PVE only when I first went to Cyrodiil for fish and skyshards, but I understood that I was walking into a PVP zone.

Really, designed to be done with the threat of PvP? You sure about that?

What about Supplies for Applewatch? Secret Revealed? Nirnroot Wine? The Changing Kind? Homeward? The List? The Shurgak Job? Best Left Unknown? Cause and Effect? Congratulations!? Medicinal Herbs? The Doctor's Bag? Catch of the Day? Spoils of War? Distant Relatives? The Silver Flute? Out for a Wak? Articles of Faith? Misplaced Knowledge? The Devils You Know? Better Late Than Never? The Message? Heirloom? Special Delivery? Regret?

What about the Fighter's Guild repeatable quests, for the Black Dagger bandits, Goblins, Gray Vipers, and Shadowed Path?

And that's only counting the quests that have little to do with the Alliance War; they were not designed at all to be done with the threat of PvP. The quests in Vlastarus, Cropsford, and Bruma, sure, those were, there's a reason why they aren't regular towns like Cheydinhal or Chorrol, but rather Alliance Settlements, for those that PvP threat is meant to be present, not for the rest.

Those are short, simple quests, including the dailies at Chorrol and Cheydinhal. Far less complex than most PVE quests. So yeah, designed to be done with the threat of PVP, especially considering that Cyrodiil was always designed as a PVP zone.

You want to complain about a PVE quest with actual content locked behind a PVP zone, take a look at Imperial City instead. There's actual substance in those quests, far more than anything you'll find in Cyrodiil.

I'll say to you the same thing I said during the anniversary event, another time when PVPers had reasons to be doing the dailies and fighting other players. "Cyrodiil is a PVP zone. Prepare for PVP or don't complain when you die after failing to prepare."

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

So you're just gonna generalize and paint the entire PvP community in a bad light because of one ganker that got you during a PvP event...

OK...

This ^ You need to grow some thicker skin OP. It’s pretty damn annoying and short-sighted when people like you assume that all of us pvp’ers are just evil monsters and call us the, “lowest of the low” just because you had one ”bad” experience.

I wouldn’t have killed you, nor would have many other fellow pvpers. But guess what, you walked into a pvp zone and got pvp’ed to death. Deal with it. If you can’t, then maybe you need to stay out of Cyrodiil.

jwjackson5674 wrote: »

...Just goes to prove that PVP'ers are the lowest and they have no honor.

You got ganked, gankers don't want a fight, don't take dying well, because they are PvE players, PvE players have no honour.

Youre trying to get a fishing achievement and he's trying to get a PVP achievement. I dont see how youre on a morally high ground

Once my crafting guild organized a cross-faction fishing event in a slow campaign. We used Discord to coordinate. It was so fun Those of us with PVP experience helped protect those who weren't comfortable there. Yeah we had encounters, but it's a PVP focused zone, to which we knowingly went into, and I would totally do it again.

DanteYoda wrote: »

This is why i don't pvp, the scumbags are real there.. No rewards are worth dealing with those lowlifes.

This is why I don’t pve. The scumbags are real and kick you out of dungeons if you’re playstyle isn’t up to their standards. No rewards are worth dealing with those lowlifes.

See how easy it is to switch that around? The whole stigma between “pve and pvp players” is just plain ignorant. You can’t lump a whole group of people into the “bad” bag simply because there are some bad examples here and there

we're trying to apply "honor" to "Mayhem", huh?