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WHY TF are golden neck pieces (from golden vendor) bop?
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Seriously..? That’s some ***. I bought it for a friend and didn’t bother to look at the bop bc WHY WOULD IT BE?!
I don't know, a set that is only useful in group play requires you to participate in group play activities to obtain it normally? (With the only exception being when it pops up in the Golden's inventory)? Yeah, can't imagine why they designed it like that. /svamp_emily wrote: »I did the same thing awhile back. I purchased 2 worm rings and my plan was to sell them to a PvE player that needed them. Then i found out they were BOP. Now I have 4 gold worm rings.
Honestly, I wish they would get rid of BOP items. I enjoyed going to guild traders buying items that I didn't have or never could get but now everything good is BOP.
Because Plague Doctor, Silks of the Sun, Hunding's, Julianos, Mother's Sorrow, Spriggan's, Spinner's, Acuity, Seventh Legion, Bloodthorn, Werewolf, Fortified Brass, Necropotence, Briar Heart, War Maiden, and Trainee are all BoP... no, wait. None of those are.3 -
Marabornwingrion✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Why you don't read what's written in right upper corner of item tooltip...4 -
Armatesz✭✭✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Doing dungeons (and trials, for that matter) on normal for the gear, and then simply upgrading from blue to purple or gold is so painfully easy that it does not justify any of the gear being BoP when it rightfully should be BoE.
While it is reasonably affordable to simply buy most overland sets at guild traders (with some expensive exceptions, due to meta crowding), it can be virtually impossible to collect the dungeon sets you are looking for, even after transmutation.
Some recent examples:
I wanted to get some Overwhelming lightning staves for my sorc from Tempest Isle. There is even a named lightning staff from the end boss, so it should be easy, right? Well, despite maybe 40 runs of the dungeon, I only got the named drop once, and I have addons installed, so I can see that none of my teammates got that drop either. One staff is not enough, so now I have just given up and gone with another set for weapons (one that luckily can be bought since it's an overland set).
I also wanted the Winterborn set for my Warden, which means I will have to farm Maelstrom for days and days to get the right drops. No trading with your team mates here.
And for what? Overwhelming and Winterborn sets? Arguably some of the worst sets in the game? I just want them for fun, but spending days on end just getting them isn't exactly what I would call fun.
Do I have to cling to every dungeon drop just -in case- I might need it eventually down the road?
People are running CoA for hundreds of times for Sunderflame and BSW. I use BSW, but not weapons. Luckily my weapons are a crafted set, if I had gone with, say, BSW and Moondancer or Siroria, I would have had to spend hundreds of runs in normal content as well, just to get the staves needed.
Normal content is so easy to run that it is no excuse to keep these sets bind on pickup, apart from ruining the trading market, and making it excessively hard for anyone to try out a niche set. Who wants to spend the majority of their playing time farming the same content over and over just to try out something niche or non-meta.
The only gear that should be BoP is the epeen gear like vMA weapons, Master weapons and Perfected trial gear.
I got the unique Neiders lighting staff once when doing it vet solo and of the times I have done the dungeon with other players I've done that dungeon so many times and rarely seen that staff. I have however wanted a resto staff for the longest as well but that took me doing it every day for like 2 months just to get one which I had to retrait... I need more than one btw.Ärmätèsz
Xbox NA
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Nightfall12✭✭✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Doing dungeons (and trials, for that matter) on normal for the gear, and then simply upgrading from blue to purple or gold is so painfully easy that it does not justify any of the gear being BoP when it rightfully should be BoE.
While it is reasonably affordable to simply buy most overland sets at guild traders (with some expensive exceptions, due to meta crowding), it can be virtually impossible to collect the dungeon sets you are looking for, even after transmutation.
Some recent examples:
I wanted to get some Overwhelming lightning staves for my sorc from Tempest Isle. There is even a named lightning staff from the end boss, so it should be easy, right? Well, despite maybe 40 runs of the dungeon, I only got the named drop once, and I have addons installed, so I can see that none of my teammates got that drop either. One staff is not enough, so now I have just given up and gone with another set for weapons (one that luckily can be bought since it's an overland set).
I also wanted the Winterborn set for my Warden, which means I will have to farm Maelstrom for days and days to get the right drops. No trading with your team mates here.
And for what? Overwhelming and Winterborn sets? Arguably some of the worst sets in the game? I just want them for fun, but spending days on end just getting them isn't exactly what I would call fun.
Do I have to cling to every dungeon drop just -in case- I might need it eventually down the road?
People are running CoA for hundreds of times for Sunderflame and BSW. I use BSW, but not weapons. Luckily my weapons are a crafted set, if I had gone with, say, BSW and Moondancer or Siroria, I would have had to spend hundreds of runs in normal content as well, just to get the staves needed.
Normal content is so easy to run that it is no excuse to keep these sets bind on pickup, apart from ruining the trading market, and making it excessively hard for anyone to try out a niche set. Who wants to spend the majority of their playing time farming the same content over and over just to try out something niche or non-meta.
The only gear that should be BoP is the epeen gear like vMA weapons, Master weapons and Perfected trial gear.
winterborn...yeah that was painful...so many runs in normal to get the set. I finally ended up with robes, pants gloves boots and a belt. i had doubles on most pieces by the time i got the last one I needed, it really felt wrong deconing it or vendering it, but i cant ever see needing 2 sets. I really wish they would open up the Maelstrom sets to BoE. I get the VMA wepaons being BoP, though i'd love it if they weren't. But why the other sets?
but so much fun mixed with iceheart and ysgramors....on a warden ice tank.... I've solo'd a few WBs with that set up, slow to kill them but was never really in any danger either. Im thinking of swapping the ysgrammors for Ebon, i happen to have a all the jewelry and 1 ebon ice staff+ 1 ebon resto staff......if i could just get an ebon sheild to drop to match the mace i have my tank would be set with ice staff/ 1h sheild
Overwheming gear, i gave up on.Ummm stuff… about stuff…or something.0 -
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✭✭Nothing should be BoP, its just a mechanic designed to add longevity to a game that has limited content..6 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nothing should be BoP, its just a mechanic designed to add longevity to a game that has limited content..
Limited? You should check out FFXIV sometime and then you'll see what limited really isValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake1 -
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Your gear options in that game are a lot more limited as well.
1) Tombstone gear
2) 24 man raid gear
3) Normal Raid Gear
4) Savage Raid Gear
5) Crafted Gear.
6) Primal Weapons/Jewelry
I mean, I play FFXIV mostly for the story and soundtrack since those are actually pretty well done. The gear is just a means to an end because Fashion and house decorating are the true end game of FFXIV. Got to look as vain as possible in my multi million gil mansion after all.Argonian forever0 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Seriously..? That’s some ***. I bought it for a friend and didn’t bother to look at the bop bc WHY WOULD IT BE?!
As pointed out, if it is normally BoP it is still BoP which makes sense.Oh, also nice that there are no monster sets available.
Because with the event it is just jewelry like last year.Emma_Overload wrote: »
The economy is fabulous. I guess I missed the punch line since I do very well with the economy. Only MMORPG I played with BoE dungeon gear was a joke. Pathetic to this very day.
You must be a trader, not a shopper. The ESO economy sucks because half the gear isn't for sale and the other half is impossible to find when you need it. Quit being selfish and look at it from the point of view of the masses.
Sounds like someone wants the best stuff without doing content
Or maybe because its cheaper than getting a purple and upgrading to gold.2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Seriously..? That’s some ***. I bought it for a friend and didn’t bother to look at the bop bc WHY WOULD IT BE?!
As pointed out, if it is normally BoP it is still BoP which makes sense.Oh, also nice that there are no monster sets available.
Because with the event it is just jewelry like last year.Emma_Overload wrote: »
The economy is fabulous. I guess I missed the punch line since I do very well with the economy. Only MMORPG I played with BoE dungeon gear was a joke. Pathetic to this very day.
You must be a trader, not a shopper. The ESO economy sucks because half the gear isn't for sale and the other half is impossible to find when you need it. Quit being selfish and look at it from the point of view of the masses.
Pretty much both and like selling and buying.
It is inappropriate to call me selfish in a lame attempt to belittle me to diminish what I have to say. By starting a thread you asked to hear the thoughts of others with a differing point of view. That is how it works.1 -
bg22✭✭✭✭✭
✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Seriously..? That’s some ***. I bought it for a friend and didn’t bother to look at the bop bc WHY WOULD IT BE?!
As pointed out, if it is normally BoP it is still BoP which makes sense.Oh, also nice that there are no monster sets available.
Because with the event it is just jewelry like last year.Emma_Overload wrote: »
The economy is fabulous. I guess I missed the punch line since I do very well with the economy. Only MMORPG I played with BoE dungeon gear was a joke. Pathetic to this very day.
You must be a trader, not a shopper. The ESO economy sucks because half the gear isn't for sale and the other half is impossible to find when you need it. Quit being selfish and look at it from the point of view of the masses.
Pretty much both and like selling and buying.
It is inappropriate to call me selfish in a lame attempt to belittle me to diminish what I have to say. By starting a thread you asked to hear the thoughts of others with a differing point of view. That is how it works.
Huh? I started the thread. Not that dude.0 -
Varana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nothing should be BoP, its just a mechanic designed to add longevity to a game that has limited content..
Because adding longevity to a game is ... bad now, for some reason?
Every game has limited content. Not even No Man's Sky or something like that comes even close to "unlimited".0 -
KingMagaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭I agree with sets to be BoE for the simple reason of not every player plays every content.
A player who plays Cyrodill for 75% of there game time now is forced to mindlessly grind some brain numbing easy dungeon, over and over and over again for an item that when they get, they go back to enjoying what they want to do in PvP.
it should be enough that PvP'ers/trials/whatever can do what they enjoy in ESO, profit off that and be able to exchange such profit to get an item they need in an area they have no interest in.
Forcing people to do what they don't enjoy is hardly a solution to anything.1 -
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✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Yell and swear all you want, BOP items are clearly marked.
There are over a dozen necklaces at the Golden vendor, and only ONE is BOP. When I’ve bought then traded dozens of pieces from her, obviously never being BoP, why would I assume or even consider that this ONE time the item is BoP?
Do you know what the word “obvious” means?0 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Doing dungeons (and trials, for that matter) on normal for the gear, and then simply upgrading from blue to purple or gold is so painfully easy that it does not justify any of the gear being BoP when it rightfully should be BoE.
While it is reasonably affordable to simply buy most overland sets at guild traders (with some expensive exceptions, due to meta crowding), it can be virtually impossible to collect the dungeon sets you are looking for, even after transmutation.
Some recent examples:
I wanted to get some Overwhelming lightning staves for my sorc from Tempest Isle. There is even a named lightning staff from the end boss, so it should be easy, right? Well, despite maybe 40 runs of the dungeon, I only got the named drop once, and I have addons installed, so I can see that none of my teammates got that drop either. One staff is not enough, so now I have just given up and gone with another set for weapons (one that luckily can be bought since it's an overland set).
I also wanted the Winterborn set for my Warden, which means I will have to farm Maelstrom for days and days to get the right drops. No trading with your team mates here.
And for what? Overwhelming and Winterborn sets? Arguably some of the worst sets in the game? I just want them for fun, but spending days on end just getting them isn't exactly what I would call fun.
Do I have to cling to every dungeon drop just -in case- I might need it eventually down the road?
People are running CoA for hundreds of times for Sunderflame and BSW. I use BSW, but not weapons. Luckily my weapons are a crafted set, if I had gone with, say, BSW and Moondancer or Siroria, I would have had to spend hundreds of runs in normal content as well, just to get the staves needed.
Normal content is so easy to run that it is no excuse to keep these sets bind on pickup, apart from ruining the trading market, and making it excessively hard for anyone to try out a niche set. Who wants to spend the majority of their playing time farming the same content over and over just to try out something niche or non-meta.
The only gear that should be BoP is the epeen gear like vMA weapons, Master weapons and Perfected trial gear.
As you say normal content is easy to run. So no excuse for not running the content yourself. MMO's survive by players doing a variety of content and repeating content. We might not like bind on pick-up items but they are good for the game.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0 -
lassitershawn✭✭✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Doing dungeons (and trials, for that matter) on normal for the gear, and then simply upgrading from blue to purple or gold is so painfully easy that it does not justify any of the gear being BoP when it rightfully should be BoE.
While it is reasonably affordable to simply buy most overland sets at guild traders (with some expensive exceptions, due to meta crowding), it can be virtually impossible to collect the dungeon sets you are looking for, even after transmutation.
Some recent examples:
I wanted to get some Overwhelming lightning staves for my sorc from Tempest Isle. There is even a named lightning staff from the end boss, so it should be easy, right? Well, despite maybe 40 runs of the dungeon, I only got the named drop once, and I have addons installed, so I can see that none of my teammates got that drop either. One staff is not enough, so now I have just given up and gone with another set for weapons (one that luckily can be bought since it's an overland set).
I also wanted the Winterborn set for my Warden, which means I will have to farm Maelstrom for days and days to get the right drops. No trading with your team mates here.
And for what? Overwhelming and Winterborn sets? Arguably some of the worst sets in the game? I just want them for fun, but spending days on end just getting them isn't exactly what I would call fun.
Do I have to cling to every dungeon drop just -in case- I might need it eventually down the road?
People are running CoA for hundreds of times for Sunderflame and BSW. I use BSW, but not weapons. Luckily my weapons are a crafted set, if I had gone with, say, BSW and Moondancer or Siroria, I would have had to spend hundreds of runs in normal content as well, just to get the staves needed.
Normal content is so easy to run that it is no excuse to keep these sets bind on pickup, apart from ruining the trading market, and making it excessively hard for anyone to try out a niche set. Who wants to spend the majority of their playing time farming the same content over and over just to try out something niche or non-meta.
The only gear that should be BoP is the epeen gear like vMA weapons, Master weapons and Perfected trial gear.
I wanted to try a winterborn build too just for jokes
For some reason I get every maelstrom set that isn't winterborn lol.
William Thorne - EP Breton Sorcerer
Astrid Winterborn - EP Breton Warden
Erik Ironskin - EP Nord Dragonknight
Venasa Viri - EP Dunmer Nightblade
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭lassitershawn wrote: »Carbonised wrote: »Doing dungeons (and trials, for that matter) on normal for the gear, and then simply upgrading from blue to purple or gold is so painfully easy that it does not justify any of the gear being BoP when it rightfully should be BoE.
While it is reasonably affordable to simply buy most overland sets at guild traders (with some expensive exceptions, due to meta crowding), it can be virtually impossible to collect the dungeon sets you are looking for, even after transmutation.
Some recent examples:
I wanted to get some Overwhelming lightning staves for my sorc from Tempest Isle. There is even a named lightning staff from the end boss, so it should be easy, right? Well, despite maybe 40 runs of the dungeon, I only got the named drop once, and I have addons installed, so I can see that none of my teammates got that drop either. One staff is not enough, so now I have just given up and gone with another set for weapons (one that luckily can be bought since it's an overland set).
I also wanted the Winterborn set for my Warden, which means I will have to farm Maelstrom for days and days to get the right drops. No trading with your team mates here.
And for what? Overwhelming and Winterborn sets? Arguably some of the worst sets in the game? I just want them for fun, but spending days on end just getting them isn't exactly what I would call fun.
Do I have to cling to every dungeon drop just -in case- I might need it eventually down the road?
People are running CoA for hundreds of times for Sunderflame and BSW. I use BSW, but not weapons. Luckily my weapons are a crafted set, if I had gone with, say, BSW and Moondancer or Siroria, I would have had to spend hundreds of runs in normal content as well, just to get the staves needed.
Normal content is so easy to run that it is no excuse to keep these sets bind on pickup, apart from ruining the trading market, and making it excessively hard for anyone to try out a niche set. Who wants to spend the majority of their playing time farming the same content over and over just to try out something niche or non-meta.
The only gear that should be BoP is the epeen gear like vMA weapons, Master weapons and Perfected trial gear.
I wanted to try a winterborn build too just for jokes For some reason I get every maelstrom set that isn't winterborn lol.
Last I checked the set doesn't really work with any ice abilities (like Warden's) so it's actually kinda useless...especially with how ZOS made the Ice Staff 1000x worse with it being a "tank" weapon nowValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Yell and swear all you want, BOP items are clearly marked.
There are over a dozen necklaces at the Golden vendor, and only ONE is BOP. When I’ve bought then traded dozens of pieces from her, obviously never being BoP, why would I assume or even consider that this ONE time the item is BoP?
Do you know what the word “obvious” means?
Again, the set is normally BoP so it is BoP from the vendor. It was the same way last year.
It would make sense to make sure before spending all that AP. We can all take this as a lesson learned.
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I agree with sets to be BoE for the simple reason of not every player plays every content.
A player who plays Cyrodill for 75% of there game time now is forced to mindlessly grind some brain numbing easy dungeon, over and over and over again for an item that when they get, they go back to enjoying what they want to do in PvP.
it should be enough that PvP'ers/trials/whatever can do what they enjoy in ESO, profit off that and be able to exchange such profit to get an item they need in an area they have no interest in.
Forcing people to do what they don't enjoy is hardly a solution to anything.
Or...you could just suck it up? You don't specifically need any sets for PvP or PvE so much that alternatives can't be found anywhere in the game in a field you are comfortable in
If you truly wanted that gear, you would go out and get that gear.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Seriously..? That’s some ***. I bought it for a friend and didn’t bother to look at the bop bc WHY WOULD IT BE?!
As pointed out, if it is normally BoP it is still BoP which makes sense.Oh, also nice that there are no monster sets available.
Because with the event it is just jewelry like last year.Emma_Overload wrote: »
The economy is fabulous. I guess I missed the punch line since I do very well with the economy. Only MMORPG I played with BoE dungeon gear was a joke. Pathetic to this very day.
You must be a trader, not a shopper. The ESO economy sucks because half the gear isn't for sale and the other half is impossible to find when you need it. Quit being selfish and look at it from the point of view of the masses.
Sounds like someone wants the best stuff without doing content
No one has to do the content to buy off the PvP vendor though ...1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I agree with sets to be BoE for the simple reason of not every player plays every content.
A player who plays Cyrodill for 75% of there game time now is forced to mindlessly grind some brain numbing easy dungeon, over and over and over again for an item that when they get, they go back to enjoying what they want to do in PvP.
it should be enough that PvP'ers/trials/whatever can do what they enjoy in ESO, profit off that and be able to exchange such profit to get an item they need in an area they have no interest in.
Forcing people to do what they don't enjoy is hardly a solution to anything.
I do not see your point outside of maybe suggesting a sense of entitlement to being able to get things easily.
Zos purposely, and intelligently, setup aspects of this game to require players to experience other areas of the game, outside of their main activity.
Just as many PvE players who are interested in raiding competitively are required tot do some PvP it makes sense PvP players would be required to do some PvE.
Heck, I remember a stam build for vDSA a couple years ago that required two sets from PvP. Call it mind numbing or anything else for that matter but it still an intelligent design.
Now the grind for gear used to be horrid. With the ability to trade BoP gear amongst your group and change traits the grind is pretty short now.
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✭I agree with sets to be BoE for the simple reason of not every player plays every content.
A player who plays Cyrodill for 75% of there game time now is forced to mindlessly grind some brain numbing easy dungeon, over and over and over again for an item that when they get, they go back to enjoying what they want to do in PvP.
it should be enough that PvP'ers/trials/whatever can do what they enjoy in ESO, profit off that and be able to exchange such profit to get an item they need in an area they have no interest in.
Forcing people to do what they don't enjoy is hardly a solution to anything.
Or...you could just suck it up? You don't specifically need any sets for PvP or PvE so much that alternatives can't be found anywhere in the game in a field you are comfortable in
If you truly wanted that gear, you would go out and get that gear.
I have almost every set in the game hoarded (For this reason even though it strains inventory of 15 characters and x2 guild banks 1,000 spaces) but that doesn't change the fact forcing people into an aspect of the game they don't want to be in, repeatedly, does nothing for longevity and more for players quitting due to not being able to test various builds and ideas without an unnecessary amount of grind and hampers diversity.
I looked at this subject from a new players perspective. Any older player in ESO knows to keep everything because ZOS overhauls the game every X months instead of a gradual tweeking towards balance.
That and i am rich enough to pay players to group and farm it for me if that is the case, or buy anything i want in a group in a trial but those options aren't available to everyone.
I think my point still stands that forcing people to do content they have no interest in, especially when it is not challenging and just requires dumping time into, is not a good path, the way i have witnessed it anyway.1 -
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✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Seriously..? That’s some ***. I bought it for a friend and didn’t bother to look at the bop bc WHY WOULD IT BE?!
As pointed out, if it is normally BoP it is still BoP which makes sense.Oh, also nice that there are no monster sets available.
Because with the event it is just jewelry like last year.Emma_Overload wrote: »
The economy is fabulous. I guess I missed the punch line since I do very well with the economy. Only MMORPG I played with BoE dungeon gear was a joke. Pathetic to this very day.
You must be a trader, not a shopper. The ESO economy sucks because half the gear isn't for sale and the other half is impossible to find when you need it. Quit being selfish and look at it from the point of view of the masses.
I have made a lot of money trading, but I agree completely that the economy sucks. Buying in the game sucks. Selling is easy if you join a guild with a good location. Buying common stuff is easy too. But I decon or vend many things that someone might like to buy but I'm not wasting a store slot on an item that isn't going to sell either super fast or for a ton.0 -
Carbonised✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Carbonised wrote: »Doing dungeons (and trials, for that matter) on normal for the gear, and then simply upgrading from blue to purple or gold is so painfully easy that it does not justify any of the gear being BoP when it rightfully should be BoE.
While it is reasonably affordable to simply buy most overland sets at guild traders (with some expensive exceptions, due to meta crowding), it can be virtually impossible to collect the dungeon sets you are looking for, even after transmutation.
Some recent examples:
I wanted to get some Overwhelming lightning staves for my sorc from Tempest Isle. There is even a named lightning staff from the end boss, so it should be easy, right? Well, despite maybe 40 runs of the dungeon, I only got the named drop once, and I have addons installed, so I can see that none of my teammates got that drop either. One staff is not enough, so now I have just given up and gone with another set for weapons (one that luckily can be bought since it's an overland set).
I also wanted the Winterborn set for my Warden, which means I will have to farm Maelstrom for days and days to get the right drops. No trading with your team mates here.
And for what? Overwhelming and Winterborn sets? Arguably some of the worst sets in the game? I just want them for fun, but spending days on end just getting them isn't exactly what I would call fun.
Do I have to cling to every dungeon drop just -in case- I might need it eventually down the road?
People are running CoA for hundreds of times for Sunderflame and BSW. I use BSW, but not weapons. Luckily my weapons are a crafted set, if I had gone with, say, BSW and Moondancer or Siroria, I would have had to spend hundreds of runs in normal content as well, just to get the staves needed.
Normal content is so easy to run that it is no excuse to keep these sets bind on pickup, apart from ruining the trading market, and making it excessively hard for anyone to try out a niche set. Who wants to spend the majority of their playing time farming the same content over and over just to try out something niche or non-meta.
The only gear that should be BoP is the epeen gear like vMA weapons, Master weapons and Perfected trial gear.
As you say normal content is easy to run. So no excuse for not running the content yourself. MMO's survive by players doing a variety of content and repeating content. We might not like bind on pick-up items but they are good for the game.
Not even going to bother going into an argument over this.
Also, with your form of logic, then every item should be BoP since it is "good for the game". So why don't we change every overland item set into BoP and abolish every trading or selling of set items at all? It's good for the game, after all.Edited by Carbonised on July 30, 2018 7:21AM0 -
Slack✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Seriously..? That’s some ***. I bought it for a friend and didn’t bother to look at the bop bc WHY WOULD IT BE?!
As pointed out, if it is normally BoP it is still BoP which makes sense.Oh, also nice that there are no monster sets available.
Because with the event it is just jewelry like last year.Emma_Overload wrote: »
The economy is fabulous. I guess I missed the punch line since I do very well with the economy. Only MMORPG I played with BoE dungeon gear was a joke. Pathetic to this very day.
You must be a trader, not a shopper. The ESO economy sucks because half the gear isn't for sale and the other half is impossible to find when you need it. Quit being selfish and look at it from the point of view of the masses.
Sounds like someone wants the best stuff without doing content
Or maybe because its cheaper than getting a purple and upgrading to gold.
Yea and gold jewelry serves what purpose?
That it looks better when linked in chat?
That's really the only significant differencePC EU
Betty Breeze - Magwarden
Hunts S'hitblades - Stamplar
Aschavi - Magplar0