Disguising Vampirism - It's time

Aliyavana · July 2018

chimneyswift_ESO wrote: »

Vampirism is an in game choice. Key word there, "choice." Everybody and their brother knows that vampires (in nearly all forms of media) always look pretty awful and scary. If you don't want that look in a game where they exist in the lore...there are a few options:

1. Stay in Vampirism stage 1
2. Equip a skin
3. Wear some kind of armor, hat, or costume that hides the appearance
4. Polymorphs
5. Cure the vampirism and go back to being a normal soulless being on Nirn trying to fight the good fight against Molag Bal like the rest of us.

I myself am a vampire and I've never complained about the appearance cause I almost always follow these tips. I'm definitely not trying to be rude or anything, I'm just trying to provide some options. Also I want to reiterate the fact that vampirism is a choice I don't hear werewolves talking about how they wish they could look less "scary" in werewolf form

u put lore and yet you conveniently forget to state that in lore vampires can disguise themselves?

Aliyavana · July 2018

Eeri_Ravencaw wrote: »

Aren't vampires supposed to die in sunlight?

That's already a huge advantage in ESO.

this is tamriel, multiple strains of vampirism exist in it and the strain we are in eso can survive in sunlight

webrgesner · July 2018

You vampires are so insecure about yourselves. If you dont like it then go to the doctors and get a cure, its never too late. Or you can feed daily to reduce uglyness. Either way you vamps are beautiful the way you are.

anadandy · July 2018

CyberSkooma wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

dem0n1k wrote: »

Wear a hood
Equip a skin...

no, we spend time designing our characters to look pretty,

Besides if there's an exception made for Vampires, then who's to say the Werewolves won't chime in? What if they don't like looking like a giant dog on steroids but still want to use the skills?

The werewolf form is temporary.

So are their benefits. They all go away when we lose form.

quadraxis666 · July 2018

anadandy wrote: »

CyberSkooma wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

dem0n1k wrote: »

Wear a hood
Equip a skin...

no, we spend time designing our characters to look pretty,

Besides if there's an exception made for Vampires, then who's to say the Werewolves won't chime in? What if they don't like looking like a giant dog on steroids but still want to use the skills?

The werewolf form is temporary.

So are their benefits. They all go away when we lose form.

The benefits of light/medium/heavy armor passives are all hidden by outfits & costumes. outfits let a dual wielding axeman hide his bleed DoT capability under the guise of dual swords, maces or daggers. And now a monster set with whatever crazy proc it has can be disguised as a totally different monster set. That's the point I'm making. everyone else can hide whatever they want, and builds, that can be disguised, are also a choice

There's literally no excuse not to let vampires hide their vampirism. play as you want extends beyond skills alone.

DuskMarine · July 2018

Ragged_Claw wrote: »

Well he's doing a pretty good job of hiding it. I embrace my unnaturalness, but if others want to hide it, fair enough.

weird mine has the red eyes and pale skin

Lylith · July 2018

all my vamps are quite comfortable in their skins.

shoot what you brung.

kypranb14_ESO · July 2018

nemvar wrote: »

Everyone who slots rune cage, sloads or incap should look like a vampire!

Look guys, I fixed the game!

I slot Soul Harvest, do I have to look like a vampire too?

Also, what about Soul Assault? That's one of the things people complain alot about too. lol

Heimpai · July 2018

SakuraRush wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

dem0n1k wrote: »

Wear a hood
Equip a skin...

no, we spend time designing our characters to look pretty,
no, we don't want to look like a flashlight, its the same response from the anti hide vampirism crowd and they just don't get it.

That's the trade off. Want vampire power, gotta be ugly. What is more important to you, how you look or certain powers?

What’s the trade off for hiding heavy armor under light armor? Should change the stats too then..just saying you guys need to stop being hypocrites..and I’m a ww so this doesn’t affect me

MLGProPlayer · July 2018

SakuraRush wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

dem0n1k wrote: »

Wear a hood
Equip a skin...

no, we spend time designing our characters to look pretty,
no, we don't want to look like a flashlight, its the same response from the anti hide vampirism crowd and they just don't get it.

That's the trade off. Want vampire power, gotta be ugly. What is more important to you, how you look or certain powers?

Want the power of that Necropotence or Mother's Sorrow gear you're wearing? Don't hide it with an outfit or costume. Flaunt that ugly Argonian style.

Aliyavana · July 2018

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

SakuraRush wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

dem0n1k wrote: »

Wear a hood
Equip a skin...

no, we spend time designing our characters to look pretty,
no, we don't want to look like a flashlight, its the same response from the anti hide vampirism crowd and they just don't get it.

That's the trade off. Want vampire power, gotta be ugly. What is more important to you, how you look or certain powers?

Want the power of that Necropotence or Mother's Sorrow gear you're wearing? Don't hide it. Flaunt that ugly Argonian style.

This so much. I bet these people hide their ugly armor with costumes

bottleofsyrup · July 2018

Valrien wrote: »

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Wear a disguise, like the Servant Outfit from a quest I cant remember the name of.

It hides vampirism now, and shows off your natural skin

Disguises suck, the hat is no longer optional.

Then get a disguise with no hat and stop whining ffs

salt

freespirit · July 2018

The above was a while ago.

This is more recent...… I don't feel the need to hide Vampirism

Matthew_Galvanus · July 2018

i would also like to be able to appear as normal, not that being a vampire isn't cool, it is just i am forced to wear gloves otherwise my hand look like fat, pasty white, purple veined sausages which makes me nauseous.

Soella · July 2018

I never understand those who is against option to hide vampire skin. Why, tell me please why on the earth YOU care how MY character looks like? It had some sense at the very beginning, while there was not costumes around and keeping world true to lore had some sense. Now it should be player's choice.

dodgehopper_ESO · July 2018

Even better would be to make it possible for mere mortals to be equals to monsters. I would like to see some other mutually exclusive order similar to the Dawnguard who would innately have passives such as +weapon damage +spell damage, etc. I'd like to see this skill line be a world or guild skill line that you could not also have while being a werewolf or vampire. In this way we could once and for all make the choice of being a vampire about style and less about whether you want to give up HUGE bonuses or not. Face it you are a monster: you should look like one you filthy undead scum!!!

Fur_like_snow · July 2018

This one shakes his head at all the self hating vampires in the crowd.

MLGProPlayer · July 2018

Soella wrote: »

I never understand those who is against option to hide vampire skin. Why, tell me please why on the earth YOU care how MY character looks like? It had some sense at the very beginning, while there was not costumes around and keeping world true to lore had some sense. Now it should be player's choice.

People don't want other people to have fun.

And it was never even lore inappropriate to hide vampirism from the beginning. You meet a vampire in Rivenspire who hides his vampirism. There is also a lore book that says some vampires can hide their appearance.

RedTalon · July 2018

I am for people hiding their look, still will know who vampires are when I have a certain fighter skill slotted so no biogger.

dodgehopper_ESO · July 2018

RedTalon wrote: »

I am for people hiding their look, still will know who vampires are when I have a certain fighter skill slotted so no biogger.

I actually don't mind it either (people already hide their look). What I mind is the pressure I feel to make a character vampire even though I find it repulsive to do so. I also personally feel races in general play too much importance at end game as well.

MLGProPlayer · July 2018

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

RedTalon wrote: »

I am for people hiding their look, still will know who vampires are when I have a certain fighter skill slotted so no biogger.

I actually don't mind it either (people already hide their look). What I mind is the pressure I feel to make a character vampire even though I find it repulsive to do so. I also personally feel races in general play too much importance at end game as well.

Completely agreed on both accounts.

I hate when games tie in-game performance to cosmetics.

Ragebull · July 2018

It's always sad when people are against stuff that has nothing to do with them. It's a silly video game, calm down with all the strictness and what ifs. Just let people hide it, everything will be ok because.... it doesn't affect you

OmniDo · July 2018

This argument again?
Ugh...
Z0$ should just create a skill line or some blessing of Arkay or some such, that grants all the passive advantages afforded to vampires, but cannot be used by vampires.
Then all these kindred wannabe's would go cure themselves and stop their blasphemous whining.
Leave the realm of the Undead to those who actually have a spine, or are willing to deprive you of yours and hang it on their wall as a trophy.

Hotdog_23 · July 2018

Just to add I too would like to hide vampirism. Or better yet give werewolves the same regen passives.

PureEnvelope35 · July 2018

ZOS could just add a quest that is only available once you hit vampire level 10 that would reward you with a skin.

Linaleah · July 2018

OmniDo wrote: »

This argument again?
Ugh...
Z0$ should just create a skill line or some blessing of Arkay or some such, that grants all the passive advantages afforded to vampires, but cannot be used by vampires.
Then all these kindred wannabe's would go cure themselves and stop their blasphemous whining.
Leave the realm of the Undead to those who actually have a spine, or are willing to deprive you of yours and hang it on their wall as a trophy.

or... they could give an optional "enable/disable" button in outfit UI to let people play as they want? you know... becasue no one is forcing you to not look like a vampire, Omni. you look the way you want to, let others look the way THEY want to.

in lore, vampires can and do hide their appearance behind glamour.

PureEnvelope35 wrote: »

ZOS could just add a quest that is only available once you hit vampire level 10 that would reward you with a skin.

that would be perfect. skin that makes you look normal and you can even justify it with the whole "I have mastered vampirism and therefore i can hide its appearance now"

Troneon · July 2018

But I like to look damned and doomed....

It's the only way I can roleplay what wrobel has done to magplars...

blnchk · July 2018

It would make sense for vampires to hide their appearance around towns and such. It would, perhaps, make even more sense for this to happen automatically, so that NPC reactions seem more reasonable. Restrictions can and probably should play a role, for instance like so:

A werewolf's form is tied to combat. Why not a vampire's?

This could be achieved either by a toggle, which would take up one or two skill slots and thus be unpopular during combat. Or this could happen automatically around safe zones where vampires would logically want to hide their nature. (Granted, the latter sounds like a highly unlikely amount of work.) In either case, there'd be an appearance-related functionality in place comparable to that of werewolves -- only in reverse.

A compromise of sorts, since fair's fair.

Luthivar · July 2018

Not again...if you don't want to look like a vampire, just don't let them bite you! It's completely lorebreaking that almost everybody in ESO is a vampire.

Instead of a disguise, vampirism should be sth like werewolf skill line, without any passive benefits when in normal form, without any class or weapon skills usable when in vampire form (third skill bar). Problem solved.

MLGProPlayer · July 2018

Luthivar wrote: »

It's completely lorebreaking that almost everybody in ESO is a vampire.

That's because ZOS attached a 10% resource regen boost with almost no drawbacks to vampirism. Vampirism is a part of every meta game build.