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Magicka DK Light Armor PVP Build - Summerset July 25
Fiveboro
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Mag DK is still an amazing PVP class, change my mind.
My new light arm build is hitting very hard IMO. 5L/1M/1H Shacklebreaker, Burning Spellweave, Bloodspawn (Sword & Board/Resto). I've also been running flame staff + skorias and the burst has me feeling like a sorc.
Clip below is first S&B setup, sustain is bad because I'm using garbage Cyrodil food:
https://xboxclips.com/WashmyHeights/16f7c0df-7ccc-4b67-93cc-dbfc7ee456f3/embed
My new light arm build is hitting very hard IMO. 5L/1M/1H Shacklebreaker, Burning Spellweave, Bloodspawn (Sword & Board/Resto). I've also been running flame staff + skorias and the burst has me feeling like a sorc.
Clip below is first S&B setup, sustain is bad because I'm using garbage Cyrodil food:
https://xboxclips.com/WashmyHeights/16f7c0df-7ccc-4b67-93cc-dbfc7ee456f3/embed
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Anyone else with good mag DK setups or opinions on the current state of mag DK?
I run destro/destro all light armor on mine. Never really liked the play style of sword and board or heavy armor on a mag DK.
5 Piece Silks of the Sun
5 Piece Shacklebreaker (You can switch out Innate Axiom for Shackle for even more class skill damage)
2 Piece either Grothdarr, Skoria, or 1 Piece Domihaus 1 piece ilambris. (This will probably be changing to the new Balorgh set in the next patch)
Front Bar
Weakness to Elements
Chains to pull you to enemies.
Petrify to stun
Whip and Claws for damage with Leap as the ult.
Back bar is all buffs and healing.
Cauterize
Dragonblood
Wings
Volatile
Harness Magicka
Destro Ult (You can go either EOTS or the placed ultimate. I prefer the placed one because it works as a strong area of denial ult during keep defense. And because leap is my primary ult.)
Edited by jaws343 on July 25, 2018 4:23PM1 -
Fiveboro✭✭Love the double destro build, they’re usually sooo squishy though. Obviously your not tanking but do you find it’s still DKish taking damage?0
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Fiveboro✭✭flacidstone wrote: »I love the destro resto build but in a 1vx situation I’ve found it can’t hold up.
Agreed, I would like to run something viable not just burst damage.. For Cyrodil it's real tough but it's doable in BG (probably quality of players)
This clip is longer but i'm running destro/resto 24 kills 2 deaths and able to take some pressure:
https://xboxclips.com/WashmyHeights/85105219-3e6f-4706-bffb-0f0f19cd5908/embed
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Love the double destro build, they’re usually sooo squishy though. Obviously your not tanking but do you find it’s still DKish taking damage?
Harness Magicka works for a lot of my damage mitigation. But the healing from the claws, dragonblood and cauterize are what really make this build thrive. The trick is to claw as many enemies as possible at the opening of a fight, and then weave in claw to get heals as needed. And Petrify is a quick way to lock someone down if you are being pressured. Most of my damage mitigation ends up coming from healing or avoiding damage altogether.
And, when I get pressured, I flip bars, pop harness and heal up while kiting enemies to a more favorable position. Wings keeps most of the ranged damage off. And then it's turning around, petrifing and unloading damage on a target.Edited by jaws343 on July 25, 2018 6:07PM0 -
Fiveboro✭✭Love the double destro build, they’re usually sooo squishy though. Obviously your not tanking but do you find it’s still DKish taking damage?
Harness Magicka works for a lot of my damage mitigation. But the healing from the claws, dragonblood and cauterize are what really make this build thrive. The trick is to claw as many enemies as possible at the opening of a fight, and then weave in claw to get heals as needed. And Petrify is a quick way to lock someone down if you are being pressured. Most of my damage mitigation ends up coming from healing or avoiding damage altogether.
And, when I get pressured, I flip bars, pop harness and heal up while kiting enemies to a more favorable position. Wings keeps most of the ranged damage off. And then it's turning around, petrifing and unloading damage on a target.
I'm going to try running your build tonight and hopefully get some clips.
Also, you mentioned not liking s/b in heavy - I agree. Running s/b with light armor though tends to be a great middle ground.Edited by Fiveboro on July 25, 2018 6:10PM0 -
flacidstone✭✭✭In open world cp cyrodil the destro/resto build just can’t sustain 4+ people beating on a resto bubble or harness shield. The offensive healing is great when the enemies are less than 2-3. But more then that it’s rough.1 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Love the double destro build, they’re usually sooo squishy though. Obviously your not tanking but do you find it’s still DKish taking damage?
Harness Magicka works for a lot of my damage mitigation. But the healing from the claws, dragonblood and cauterize are what really make this build thrive. The trick is to claw as many enemies as possible at the opening of a fight, and then weave in claw to get heals as needed. And Petrify is a quick way to lock someone down if you are being pressured. Most of my damage mitigation ends up coming from healing or avoiding damage altogether.
And, when I get pressured, I flip bars, pop harness and heal up while kiting enemies to a more favorable position. Wings keeps most of the ranged damage off. And then it's turning around, petrifing and unloading damage on a target.
I'm going to try running your build tonight and hopefully get some clips.
Also, you mentioned not liking s/b in heavy - I agree. Running s/b with light armor though tends to be a great middle ground.
It's viable, but I find that I get far more damage out of running a fire staff front bar. And being able to heavy attack for resources is extremely helpful on a DK. And the heavy attacks to very good damage by themselves.0 -
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✭I took off my heavy armor sword and board “dk” gear and put on my MagSorc gear. Went 22-1. Works well.1 -
Sirvys✭Icy_Waffles wrote: »I took off my heavy armor sword and board “dk” gear and put on my MagSorc gear. Went 22-1. Works well.
What gear is that and how did you play it differently?0 -
Savos_Saren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I actually run:
2 Domihaus
5 Silks of the Sun
5 Innate Axiom
Nirnhoned Sword and Shield front bar with a Nirnhoned Flame Staff back bar.
When Domihaus procs (which is all the damn time)- I've got 1,000 extra spell damage to all of my class flamed-based abilities. That includes:
SnB Bar: (Only buffed with Molten Armaments and Domihaus)
-Burning Embers: 5850 direct damage, 15546 over time
-Flame Lash: 11477 direct damage, 13552 power lash, 15417 heal
-Empowering Chains: 6045 direct damage
-Burning Talons: 6929 direct damage, 5586 over time, 12342 synergy
-Ferocious Leap: 21712 direct damage
Destro Bar:
-Eruption: 1487 over time, 5917 direct damage
-Shifting Standard: 4571 over time, 13404 synergy
...even the abilities that I run that don't benefit from Silks, still benefit from Domihaus and Innate (600 extra spell damage) which includes my self-heal (7329 for Coagulating Blood)
I run what I call a "purist" build on my DK- which only uses Dragonknight abilities.
As a side note: On my 5l/1m/1h light armor build- I have ~25k spell and physical resistances after Volatile Armor and Stone Fist.
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lucky_Sage✭✭✭✭✭5/1/1 light armor
5bsw 5 bloodthorne 2 skoria/grothgar
dw - FoO, burning embers, flame lash, ( wing or talons flex spot) , fossilize ult leap
resto- volatile armor, healing ward, empowering chains, molten armorments, engulfing flames ult resto or batswarm
you can go destroy staff front bar ele drain where wings go or 2h fm where wings go.
empowering chains is also flex spot
its best for bgs but is viable in ava with a small groupEdited by lucky_Sage on July 26, 2018 5:25AMDC PC NA
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Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭I still dont get why ppl run silk of the Sun where axiom/shackle is the better choice for this in any case.
I personally run Shackle and Axiom with bloodspawn.0 -
Just switched over to 5 Axiom, 5 silks, 2 skoria for BGs, and that extra spell damage all around is nice. I'm trying two nirnhoned swords with a resto backbar, but thinking I need to test the swords up against an infused staff for the light attacks. Not sure if anyone has run a similar setup or tested sowrds vs staff, or infused vs nirhoned, but one thing I noticed with the new setup is that my light attacks feel pretty weak.
What's nice though is that all damage dealing dk class abilities also deal fire damage, so silks and axiom are pretty much working on every attack (except dual wield light attacks) which is an extra 800 spell damage0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I still think overwhelming surge is a really good set for magDK (and magicka Templar for that matter)
* Does similar (and sometimes more) damage than Sload
* Reveals invisible enemies that are within the proc-radius (assuming they´re the ones closest to you)
* Can proc the concussion status effect (which gives you 8% more damage towards that target)
* Is considered a DoT and can therefore proc sets like Skoria.
* Has no cooldownEdited by Qbiken on July 26, 2018 12:56PM0 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭Mag DK is still an amazing PVP class, change my mind.
My new light arm build is hitting very hard IMO. 5L/1M/1H Shacklebreaker, Burning Spellweave, Bloodspawn (Sword & Board/Resto). I've also been running flame staff + skorias and the burst has me feeling like a sorc.
Clip below is first S&B setup, sustain is bad because I'm using garbage Cyrodil food:
https://xboxclips.com/WashmyHeights/16f7c0df-7ccc-4b67-93cc-dbfc7ee456f3/embed
Some people never tell truth in forum. Use ELf bane heavy armor. Its specifically for DKs. Instead of blood spawn use grothkar.
Grothkar+ Elfbane + burning spell weave. Have major scovery , Wings up, all the time + CC immunity from heavy armor. Fossilze + flame lash. ..... until target dies. Elfbane + flame lash itself deadly combination. Barely you need a heal. Dont forget to get penentration somewhere. or use sharepened. You are good to go. If dunmer be a vampire. No magicka class can stand before you on 1v1.Edited by Priyasekarssk on July 26, 2018 8:07PM1 -
Priyasekarssk wrote: »Mag DK is still an amazing PVP class, change my mind.
My new light arm build is hitting very hard IMO. 5L/1M/1H Shacklebreaker, Burning Spellweave, Bloodspawn (Sword & Board/Resto). I've also been running flame staff + skorias and the burst has me feeling like a sorc.
Clip below is first S&B setup, sustain is bad because I'm using garbage Cyrodil food:
https://xboxclips.com/WashmyHeights/16f7c0df-7ccc-4b67-93cc-dbfc7ee456f3/embed
Some people never tell truth in forum. Use ELf bane heavy armor. Its specifically for DKs. Instead of blood spawn use grothkar.
Grothkar+ Elfbane + burning spell weave. Have major scovery , Wings up, all the time + CC immunity from heavy armor. Fossilze + flame lash. ..... until target dies. Elfbane + flame lash itself deadly combination. Barely you need a heal. Dont forget to get penentration somewhere. or use sharepened. You are good to go. If dunmer be a vampire. No magicka class can stand before you on 1v1.
Elf bane's 5 piece bonus doesn't affect flame lash at all because it isn't a DOT. It would add time to embers, engulfing flames, and standard, but since whip is a direct damage spammable, Elf bane will have no effect on it. Personally, I prefer light armor because it adds spell penetration, cost reduction, and mag recovey which all add up to higher damage and more sustain.
But you have far less damage mitigation in light armor as everyone knows, leaving you a bit more 'glass-cannon-y' which some people don't like. At the end of the day, do what makes you comfortable and works for you.2 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Priyasekarssk wrote: »Mag DK is still an amazing PVP class, change my mind.
My new light arm build is hitting very hard IMO. 5L/1M/1H Shacklebreaker, Burning Spellweave, Bloodspawn (Sword & Board/Resto). I've also been running flame staff + skorias and the burst has me feeling like a sorc.
Clip below is first S&B setup, sustain is bad because I'm using garbage Cyrodil food:
https://xboxclips.com/WashmyHeights/16f7c0df-7ccc-4b67-93cc-dbfc7ee456f3/embed
Some people never tell truth in forum. Use ELf bane heavy armor. Its specifically for DKs. Instead of blood spawn use grothkar.
Grothkar+ Elfbane + burning spell weave. Have major scovery , Wings up, all the time + CC immunity from heavy armor. Fossilze + flame lash. ..... until target dies. Elfbane + flame lash itself deadly combination. Barely you need a heal. Dont forget to get penentration somewhere. or use sharepened. You are good to go. If dunmer be a vampire. No magicka class can stand before you on 1v1.
Elf bane's 5 piece bonus doesn't affect flame lash at all because it isn't a DOT. It would add time to embers, engulfing flames, and standard, but since whip is a direct damage spammable, Elf bane will have no effect on it. Personally, I prefer light armor because it adds spell penetration, cost reduction, and mag recovey which all add up to higher damage and more sustain.
But you have far less damage mitigation in light armor as everyone knows, leaving you a bit more 'glass-cannon-y' which some people don't like. At the end of the day, do what makes you comfortable and works for you.
Elf bane only impact after components after damage which has duration attached to it. Also its strengthen burning status effect. FYI Whip has an after effect component , which you need proc it.Edited by Priyasekarssk on July 26, 2018 9:36PM0 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Priyasekarssk wrote: »Mag DK is still an amazing PVP class, change my mind.
My new light arm build is hitting very hard IMO. 5L/1M/1H Shacklebreaker, Burning Spellweave, Bloodspawn (Sword & Board/Resto). I've also been running flame staff + skorias and the burst has me feeling like a sorc.
Clip below is first S&B setup, sustain is bad because I'm using garbage Cyrodil food:
https://xboxclips.com/WashmyHeights/16f7c0df-7ccc-4b67-93cc-dbfc7ee456f3/embed
Some people never tell truth in forum. Use ELf bane heavy armor. Its specifically for DKs. Instead of blood spawn use grothkar.
Grothkar+ Elfbane + burning spell weave. Have major scovery , Wings up, all the time + CC immunity from heavy armor. Fossilze + flame lash. ..... until target dies. Elfbane + flame lash itself deadly combination. Barely you need a heal. Dont forget to get penentration somewhere. or use sharepened. You are good to go. If dunmer be a vampire. No magicka class can stand before you on 1v1.
Grothdarr is bad, bloodspawn is amazing. Elfbane is bad, don't need dots to tick for longer 10 is more than fine, and if you do for some reason use it, use zaan to get the multiplier. It doesn't affect flame lash or the heal. Don't use sharp. CC immune from HA. Really mate?MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭Priyasekarssk wrote: »Mag DK is still an amazing PVP class, change my mind.
My new light arm build is hitting very hard IMO. 5L/1M/1H Shacklebreaker, Burning Spellweave, Bloodspawn (Sword & Board/Resto). I've also been running flame staff + skorias and the burst has me feeling like a sorc.
Clip below is first S&B setup, sustain is bad because I'm using garbage Cyrodil food:
https://xboxclips.com/WashmyHeights/16f7c0df-7ccc-4b67-93cc-dbfc7ee456f3/embed
Some people never tell truth in forum. Use ELf bane heavy armor. Its specifically for DKs. Instead of blood spawn use grothkar.
Grothkar+ Elfbane + burning spell weave. Have major scovery , Wings up, all the time + CC immunity from heavy armor. Fossilze + flame lash. ..... until target dies. Elfbane + flame lash itself deadly combination. Barely you need a heal. Dont forget to get penentration somewhere. or use sharepened. You are good to go. If dunmer be a vampire. No magicka class can stand before you on 1v1.
Sound like you will have little stamina to break free if using Potent Brew and sustain problem if using tri-stat. Elf Bane also does not buff Flame Lash in any shape or form. If you actually played mDK, you would know this already.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel1 -
Jjitsuboy98✭✭✭✭Went light armor destro resto for few days again to try it out this patch. Sun and eyes of Mara, then sun BSW. Got a few 1vXes but overall it's to hard to solo . You get blown up rather easy and mobility is still ***. Damage is pretty amazing but survivability is just bad. To hard to mitigate damage.1 -
lucky_Sage✭✭✭✭✭ive never seen use for elf bane don't think the 5 piece is worth it if I was doing 5bsw and a heavy set id choice rattlecage or a crafted sets like Axiom, LoJ or even seducer or shackle for sustain
best monster sets for magdk is skoria grothgar and blood spawn is 3rd you could also use engine guardian or slimcrawlEdited by lucky_Sage on July 27, 2018 5:50AMDC PC NA
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SirMewser✭✭✭✭✭Priyasekarssk wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Priyasekarssk wrote: »Mag DK is still an amazing PVP class, change my mind.
My new light arm build is hitting very hard IMO. 5L/1M/1H Shacklebreaker, Burning Spellweave, Bloodspawn (Sword & Board/Resto). I've also been running flame staff + skorias and the burst has me feeling like a sorc.
Clip below is first S&B setup, sustain is bad because I'm using garbage Cyrodil food:
https://xboxclips.com/WashmyHeights/16f7c0df-7ccc-4b67-93cc-dbfc7ee456f3/embed
Some people never tell truth in forum. Use ELf bane heavy armor. Its specifically for DKs. Instead of blood spawn use grothkar.
Grothkar+ Elfbane + burning spell weave. Have major scovery , Wings up, all the time + CC immunity from heavy armor. Fossilze + flame lash. ..... until target dies. Elfbane + flame lash itself deadly combination. Barely you need a heal. Dont forget to get penentration somewhere. or use sharepened. You are good to go. If dunmer be a vampire. No magicka class can stand before you on 1v1.
Elf bane's 5 piece bonus doesn't affect flame lash at all because it isn't a DOT. It would add time to embers, engulfing flames, and standard, but since whip is a direct damage spammable, Elf bane will have no effect on it. Personally, I prefer light armor because it adds spell penetration, cost reduction, and mag recovey which all add up to higher damage and more sustain.
But you have far less damage mitigation in light armor as everyone knows, leaving you a bit more 'glass-cannon-y' which some people don't like. At the end of the day, do what makes you comfortable and works for you.
Elf bane only impact after components after damage which has duration attached to it. Also its strengthen burning status effect. FYI Whip has an after effect component , which you need proc it.
Flame lash is unaffected by elf bane.
Well that's coming from you lol.Priyasekarssk wrote: »Mag DK is still an amazing PVP class, change my mind.
My new light arm build is hitting very hard IMO. 5L/1M/1H Shacklebreaker, Burning Spellweave, Bloodspawn (Sword & Board/Resto). I've also been running flame staff + skorias and the burst has me feeling like a sorc.
Clip below is first S&B setup, sustain is bad because I'm using garbage Cyrodil food:
https://xboxclips.com/WashmyHeights/16f7c0df-7ccc-4b67-93cc-dbfc7ee456f3/embed
Some people never tell truth in forum. Use ELf bane heavy armor. Its specifically for DKs.
Edited by SirMewser on July 28, 2018 3:14PM1 -
craftycarper73✭✭✭✭✭on my magdk im running
2 skoria
5 spellweave
5 julianos
2 staffs, 1 flame 1 restro, 5L 1M1H the heavy and medium peices being julianos chest and legs, 5 impen 1 divines 1 infused.
Surprisingly doing pretty well with it in the current event, surviving pretty well, and killing my fair share of people, the real test will come i suppose when the event is over and cyrodiil returns to normal lvls of population.
front bar(flame) nirnhoned flame damage glyph, FoO, flame lash, wings, embers, shattering rocks, fercious leap ulti
back bar (restro) infused increase spell damage glyph, volitile armour, dampen magicka, draw essence, coag blood, degneration, ice comet ulti
please feel free to help me improve this as you see fit
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✭I probably will test a few more but Ive had success with:
Note: Race: Dunmer, tristat food, vampire stage 4, tristat enchants on big pieces/magicka on small on all builds listed below.
1) 5 Bloodthorn/5 desert rose/2 skoria ,SnB both bars (Nirn front, powered back), 4 impen 4 sturdy w/shields, 5/1/1 light
Pros: Great sustain while being able to almost perma block at all times, decent magicka pool, good health, 17-18k stam.
Cons: Lacks burst
2) 5 Innate Axiom/5 lich(SnB backbar sturdy)/2 skoria/2 willpower duel wield(1nirn 1 infused frontbar), 3 sturdy 4 impen 5/2 hvy light
Pros: Great burst, decent sustain, great for class skill abilities
Cons: cannot perma block for long periods, doesn't buff non class abilities
3) 5 Shalks/5 lich(SnB backbar sturdy)/2 bloodspawn/2 willpower duel wield(1 nirn 1 infused frontbar), 5 impen 2 sturdy, 7 heavy
Pros: Ulti gen galore, supertanky, decent sustain, can leap in and out of zergs
Cons: lacks burst, sustaining in long fights takes practice
Hope this helps!Edited by UppGRAYxDD on July 28, 2018 4:21PM"Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."1