Is ESO the MMO with the most rude players?

Eradrann · July 2018

Maybe it's just me... but I've had some pretty negative times in this game. A lot of it criticizing my bow usage and maybe not dealing extremely high DPS numbers. I've been kicked for some pretty stupid reasons. It's very intimidating to play in group content anymore for me. Shoot, I still haven't done DSA and I've played (console wise) from it's release. (I know it's a game, but man, personality wise for me, I take criticism seriously, it's just very disheartening *shrug*)

I try to be nice though. I've crafted for quite a few people, and try to be fair in price. I've given new players money for horses (before the leveling reward system) and crafted them training sets, given away holiday items for free.

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

If they are dueling in Cyrodiil they deserve what they get.

I've always thought so. I remember groups of people hanging out in the Arena District in Imp City and they would "duel". Players in my alliance would emote "no" as I'm sniping people. The area is PvP. Free for all. Of course this was before the dueling system was implemented. But seriously there are some less visited places in Cyrodiil, go there.

SilverWF · July 2018

If man jerk IRL then he would be jerk in game.
And don't even try to sell me BS about "some kind roleplay"

central_scrutinizer · July 2018

Always farm on a NB. Somebody trying to take your node while you clear becomes the person who is helping you to loot the node.

kaithuzar · July 2018

Here you can get banned for a number of things that Asian mmo’s often don’t care about.

I would say overall Eso is pretty “Towned down/chill” in comparison.

Salvas_Aren · July 2018

sevomd69 wrote: »

...ummm...then the loot u get is level 4 or 5....so what's the point...

Its somehow cute if he runs after you for 10 mins shouting *thats mine! you stole it!*

DenMoria · July 2018

Simple answer. No.

TheInfernalRage · July 2018

Black Desert Online Southeast Asia server.

The difference in rudeness between ESO and that game in that server is as wide as the gap between heaven and hell.

SugaComa · July 2018

Walman wrote: »

Examples:
1: You see a chest or node but theres a mob close to it. You kill the mob and some *** takes the chest/node while you fight the mob
2: You fight a elite and its a close call, other player stands close but dont help, he waits till you die. (I always helpout when i see someone in trouble)
3: You walk up to an NPC for dialog and this other guy comes on his mount and blockes the view. (not a biggie but its annoying)

1. Not everyone farms some are killing and there are plenty to go round not an issue

2. Once helped a guy at a works boss and got an abusive message for ruining his solo attempt for a video he was doing ... What am I a mind reader.
3. Poor game design can't blame players for that ...

Guess what I'm saying is this all depends on your veiw point

Jamdarius · July 2018

I highly disagree I came back to game after 4-5 month break due to personal problems and first thing I saw was hey mate how you doing we saved all motifs from events for you. And not just that they also send me missing motifs which I typed to them 4-5 months ago... Our community is good, sure there are rude players but I always see a newbie in chat saying can somebody help me pls with X ? And they get fast replies. As for the chest ye thats rude, as for the WB/Special mob - they might not look your way temember that they could also be afk and I see no reason why not help kill WB when u are seeing somebody near it. Also if you would type help me with WB X pls I bet you would get help in few minutes time max, I never had to wait longer than 2-3 minutes.

Aesthier · July 2018

Walman wrote: »

Is ESO the MMO with the most rude players?

^ Nope.

Azuramoonstar · July 2018

Gargath wrote: »

4: You walk up to an NPC banker/vendor/quest giver and there is always some other vicious guy already there with his flying pet blocking the view (very biggie and annoying).

you assume the person on the mount knows what you are doing. people stand around npc afk often.

Gprime31 · July 2018

As long as there are broken builds eso will remain toxic towards those who run them and think they are good players.

dodgehopper_ESO · July 2018

ANSWER: Not even close.

ZeroXFF · July 2018

Walman wrote: »

Playing this game off and on since the release and I do like the game a lot. I also play(ed) other MMORPGs from wayback DAoC(wayback in 2000), SWTOR, LOTRO, Everquest2, WOW and others and from all those games I think ESO has the most rude and inconsiderate players.

Examples:
1: You see a chest or node but theres a mob close to it. You kill the mob and some *** takes the chest/node while you fight the mob
2: You fight a elite and its a close call, other player stands close but dont help, he waits till you die. (I always helpout when i see someone in trouble)
3: You walk up to an NPC for dialog and this other guy comes on his mount and blockes the view. (not a biggie but its annoying)

There are more small things that players do (or dont do) that drives me nuts, but you get the picture. And it happens in all the other MMORPGs I mentioned, but in ESO it seems much worse then in WOW for instance. Is my perception right or are there *** in the same numbers in all other games aswell?

BTW: I play on EU server, might be better on US?

Regards
@Walman

1. "Everyone must read my thoughts and know my intentions"
2. "People are not allowed to go afk"
3. "I want ESO to be a single player game"

Seriously though, ESO is probably the friendliest MMO I played.

Unfadingsilence · July 2018

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

This is the friendliest game I’ve ever played and I own like 60 games. There are jerks everywhere in life but certainly no more in ESO than other places.

Side note ... I’ve noticed when posts like this come up you’ll get 90+% people saying what I just did and then someone will post 3 to 5 exact instances of people being awful to them. While there is no excuse for it, it does remind me of a meme I recently saw which basically said, “if you encounter one jerk in your day then you just happened to run into a jerk, but if everyone you encounter in a day is a jerk ... the jerk is actually you.”

This right here 100% people running around in game being nice, rude in every shade of color, even lost 2 guild members 3 years ago to people harassment and they took there own lives because of what happened in this game but that's just how all online MMO game go, you deal with trolls and every type of person you can imagine

Nightfall12 · July 2018

For the jumping in while soloing a world Boss....

Its a world boss out in the open you don't own solo rights to that...but

i was soloing a world boss the other day, Summerset Sload. Now this guy is not a fast solo, i'm built to survive and outlast..so there i am and you know im doing fine and i notice that there are a few people watching......like they didnt want to interrupt.....and im thinking man i wish they would join in and speed this up!! Luckily i whittled him down to 75% when a group showed up and joined in.....man that went so much quicker!

Another instance was the big summerset crab, same thing, though that one isn't as annoying with the shields and stuff, but it has a few breaks in the action, so i was able to actually invite the spectator to a team..he joined in and we duo'd the boss

So if you ever see me soloing a world boss...please join me!

FloppyTouch · July 2018

LOL most rude players pls, you have not played many mmos. Ever play an mmo with kill stealing and not shared loot with bosses with timed spawns? Waiting all week for a boss to spawn then having some high lvl port in at the same time and one shot it for loot.

Eso imo has an amazing player base with just a few bad apples.

Azuramoonstar · July 2018

Eradrann wrote: »

Maybe it's just me... but I've had some pretty negative times in this game. A lot of it criticizing my bow usage and maybe not dealing extremely high DPS numbers. I've been kicked for some pretty stupid reasons. It's very intimidating to play in group content anymore for me. Shoot, I still haven't done DSA and I've played (console wise) from it's release. (I know it's a game, but man, personality wise for me, I take criticism seriously, it's just very disheartening *shrug*)

I try to be nice though. I've crafted for quite a few people, and try to be fair in price. I've given new players money for horses (before the leveling reward system) and crafted them training sets, given away holiday items for free.

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

If they are dueling in Cyrodiil they deserve what they get.

I've always thought so. I remember groups of people hanging out in the Arena District in Imp City and they would "duel". Players in my alliance would emote "no" as I'm sniping people. The area is PvP. Free for all. Of course this was before the dueling system was implemented. But seriously there are some less visited places in Cyrodiil, go there.

if you are not up to par, learn from it. If people are being crude for no reason block them, report them. If they start harassing you, report it every time. Not all groups are bad, and not everyone is an a-hole. Group content needs the full group, if people are not up to par it can domino effect to everyone loosing.

Linaleah · July 2018

adriant1978 wrote: »

Walman wrote: »

You fight a elite and its a close call, other player stands close but dont help, he waits till you die. (I always helpout when i see someone in trouble)

You can't always know whether someone really needs help or not; maybe they are practising and want to see if they can solo whatever it is you see them fighting. I can recall a few times when I was testing a build against a world boss, and possibly looking like I needed help because I'm not the greatest player, and someone decided to steam in and "save" me.

or... they saw you were doing well enough and needed that boss kill themselves so they joined it to get the loot and achievement?

<-- have been known to do that.

as far as rudeness... no idea about EU, but in my experience, ESO players are no more rude than most other MMO's I have played. people are people everywhere.

jainiadral · July 2018

Walman wrote: »

Playing this game off and on since the release and I do like the game a lot. I also play(ed) other MMORPGs from wayback DAoC(wayback in 2000), SWTOR, LOTRO, Everquest2, WOW and others and from all those games I think ESO has the most rude and inconsiderate players.

Examples:
1: You see a chest or node but theres a mob close to it. You kill the mob and some *** takes the chest/node while you fight the mob
2: You fight a elite and its a close call, other player stands close but dont help, he waits till you die. (I always helpout when i see someone in trouble)
3: You walk up to an NPC for dialog and this other guy comes on his mount and blockes the view. (not a biggie but its annoying)

There are more small things that players do (or dont do) that drives me nuts, but you get the picture. And it happens in all the other MMORPGs I mentioned, but in ESO it seems much worse then in WOW for instance. Is my perception right or are there *** in the same numbers in all other games aswell?

BTW: I play on EU server, might be better on US?

Regards
@Walman

It's funny, because I've had the opposite experience you have for #1-- that used to happen to me constantly in SWTOR. I've only had node races a couple of times here. Even in that case, I've never had anyone node swipe as I was killing mobs in this game. Then again, I'm on PC-NA here, and I started on the worst of the NA SWTOR servers (Harbinger). I've never noticed #2 or #3-- but they both could have happened to me.

That said, the worst community I've ever experienced was in Path of Exile. The jerks in chat there make even the SWTOR trolls look like Playskool.

I almost never group so I've never dealt with the dungeon or trials crowd. I can't say anything about what they're like unless they're griping about n00bs in zone chat. Competitive types and I don't get along well, so I avoid them at all costs.

vometia · July 2018

Nightfall12 wrote: »

...But some very nice folks in game like when you are at an out of the way dolmen and its just like 4 or less and everyone waits to let others hit the pinions.....or even waits for those slow runners to get there and click the last pinion so they can snag some credit..

Ah, I may have made a bit of a faux-pas there then, I've sometimes tended to dash about closing them on the basis that "it needs doing". I didn't realise there was some etiquette involved. So I offer my apologies to anyone who witnessed my impoliteness and will be more considerate in future!

Nightfall12 · July 2018

vometia wrote: »

Nightfall12 wrote: »

...But some very nice folks in game like when you are at an out of the way dolmen and its just like 4 or less and everyone waits to let others hit the pinions.....or even waits for those slow runners to get there and click the last pinion so they can snag some credit..

Ah, I may have made a bit of a faux-pas there then, I've sometimes tended to dash about closing them on the basis that "it needs doing". I didn't realise there was some etiquette involved. So I offer my apologies to anyone who witnessed my impoliteness and will be more considerate in future!

No its not rude to hit the pins, by all means they gotta get hit..though there used to be rumors that not hitting pins until end could help summon one of the Bosses to show up....I think that rumor finally died.

i was just saying I have seen folks that just let others get them, i know once i got the achievement i stopped hitting pins unless i was solo, or the other folks are ignoring them.

Lunstagramer · July 2018

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On EU servers, indeed.
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Chicharron · July 2018

Walman wrote: »

Playing this game off and on since the release and I do like the game a lot. I also play(ed) other MMORPGs from wayback DAoC(wayback in 2000), SWTOR, LOTRO, Everquest2, WOW and others and from all those games I think ESO has the most rude and inconsiderate players.

Examples:
1: You see a chest or node but theres a mob close to it. You kill the mob and some *** takes the chest/node while you fight the mob
2: You fight a elite and its a close call, other player stands close but dont help, he waits till you die. (I always helpout when i see someone in trouble)
3: You walk up to an NPC for dialog and this other guy comes on his mount and blockes the view. (not a biggie but its annoying)

There are more small things that players do (or dont do) that drives me nuts, but you get the picture. And it happens in all the other MMORPGs I mentioned, but in ESO it seems much worse then in WOW for instance. Is my perception right or are there *** in the same numbers in all other games aswell?

BTW: I play on EU server, might be better on US?

Regards
@Walman

Is that being rude? What happens to people these days, must be something in the air...

It happens to me very often with the chests, there are thousands, I do not see the need for drama.

Irfind · July 2018

The game with the most rude players ? Archeage, BDO

The game with the best community ? Warframe and GW2

ESO is in the middle for me.

Aurayna · July 2018

Yesterday I inadvertently farmed a plant which a player was probably going to take - but because he was behind a tree I only spotted him at the last minute.

After that he followed me around and took every opportunity to farm a plant etc before me also trying to harass me !

In the end I just walked around doing nothing specific, ignoring him and they got fed up and went on their way!

If I did that for the many times gamers deliberately farmed or opened chests as the OP pointed out the game would not be good to play.

Yes it is annoying - but you have to learn to ignore rude players and just carry on playing they way you want to .

Also some players don't actually mean to be rude and may have not spotted you like I did yesterday !

TarrNokk · July 2018

Your 3 examples are laughable but not rude. That's just the way mmo go. If you feel annoyed by this you should play single player games.

abigfishy · July 2018

If I see someone fighting a mob next to a chest I usually stand next to them and play the lute or dance. They usually bow after they get the chest. A little kindness can make the day for someone.

Vanya · July 2018

Walman wrote: »

Playing this game off and on since the release and I do like the game a lot. I also play(ed) other MMORPGs from wayback DAoC(wayback in 2000), SWTOR, LOTRO, Everquest2, WOW and others and from all those games I think ESO has the most rude and inconsiderate players.

Examples:
1: You see a chest or node but theres a mob close to it. You kill the mob and some *** takes the chest/node while you fight the mob
2: You fight a elite and its a close call, other player stands close but dont help, he waits till you die. (I always helpout when i see someone in trouble)
3: You walk up to an NPC for dialog and this other guy comes on his mount and blockes the view. (not a biggie but its annoying)

There are more small things that players do (or dont do) that drives me nuts, but you get the picture. And it happens in all the other MMORPGs I mentioned, but in ESO it seems much worse then in WOW for instance. Is my perception right or are there *** in the same numbers in all other games aswell?

BTW: I play on EU server, might be better on US?

Regards
@Walman

Incorrect. Far from the worst Ruffians thou shalt witness,but do not be fooled. Nobody can guarantee thee anything. You will find Evil fiends in any game , be that Elder Scrolls Online, World of Wacraft even which has very strict rules when it comes to severe abuse and Real life Threats. You are under false impression and based on the recollection of your personal history you were nothing more but lucky to cross the path with less rude and reasonable players.

Far from it, I have been playing Elder Scrolls Online for long to judge and present my opinion on regards community both in game and forums,A shadow only. The points you've stated are nothing basically

1. I would not get upset, it is a bit lame, but he/she used the chance and took the loot. Do it again.

2.Yes he/she is not required to help thee. There are no rules of helping other players, Quite contrary you should enjoy the challenge.

3. Wow, And you find that point annoying? Honestly I believe you are overly sensitive for MMO genre. If these aspects drive you nuts, how would you deal with constant abuse,death /hack /Real Life threats,flaming,bashing,severe performance issues,constant crashing and so on. The road goes on. I've been though everything you can possibly visualise.

it does not matter , once more. Be that EU or US. Wow has far worse community which is odd because their Gamemasters are quick and furious on hammer time. You have to be truly insane to threaten someone within imaginary magical world of Azeroth.

No ultimately, I can speak honestly once again, ESO is quite relaxing,what strikes me your history, Thou art ancient player. You should know well the nature of humanity and rudeness as I spoke, ESO cannot be the sole exception.

mocap · July 2018

if i see CP300+ player fighting worldboss, i won't help him due to probability that he want to solo this boss. I maybe cast Mutagen to give him major courage and maybe throw one shard. If player is lower CP, then i certainly help.