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Sload's ignores line of sight and has extremely long range
Ankael07
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For range comparison, this is 28 meters
And this is how far I could get (big circle is where the skeleton is and smaller circle is the 28 meters mark)
Please dont let this go live as it makes the projectile nerf meaningless. No one wants to deal with a broken set for another 3-4 months @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Edit: Added circles to clarify the range
Edited by Ankael07 on July 25, 2018 8:31PM And this is how far I could get (big circle is where the skeleton is and smaller circle is the 28 meters mark)
Please dont let this go live as it makes the projectile nerf meaningless. No one wants to deal with a broken set for another 3-4 months @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Edit: Added circles to clarify the range
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Ankael07✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Can’t make sense of your pictures.
Target skeleton in the first picture is right below the tree in front of me. In the second picture you can see the white-ish meteor impact at the end of the pathway that lies directly in front of me (theres also a purple Sload projectile in the air)Edited by Ankael07 on July 23, 2018 11:55PMIf you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.2 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Can’t make sense of your pictures.
in both pictures he's putting down dots and seeing what distance he can be when sloads procs.
The first picture he is 28 meters away.
The second picture he's MUCH further away.
It seems there is either not range limitation on the sloads "projectile" or the range is huuuuuge.8 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Well considering you can be the furthest away possible from a person (in death) and procs can still be active it only makes sense.
As for LoS, see Caluurions.Edited by brandonv516 on July 24, 2018 12:34AM5 -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Make sloads work like infernal guardian or velidreth where it take skill to landEdited by Aliyavana on July 24, 2018 7:22AM5 -
Ankael07✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Make sloads work like infernal guardian or velidreth where it take skill to land
You mean takes skill to avoid? Thats a great idea. Though I still belive the set needs longer cooldown because of the sheer amount of proc sets we have in the game. If every strong proc set is going to have cooldowns between 5 to 10 seconds even a stamina player cant dodge everything, staying in dodge penalty debuff more oftenEdited by Ankael07 on July 24, 2018 1:09AMIf you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.5 -
Ralamil✭✭✭✭Make sloads work like infernal guardian or velidreth where it take skill to land
You mean takes skill to avoid? Thats a great idea. Though I still belive the set needs longer cooldown because of the sheer amount of proc sets we have in the game. If every strong proc set is going to have cooldowns between 5 to 10 seconds even a stamina player cant dodge everything, staying in dodge penalty debuff more often
While I cannot speak for them, I assume they actually meant "takes skill to apply Sloads" rather than "takes skill to avoid." At least, based on previous posts of theirs I believe I've read.
Right now, the only requirement to proc Sloads is "deal damage" which is the laziest kind of proc conditions for a set, and this set arguably has the most powerful damage type, AND is stackable. Making one able to dodge Sloads is, at least, a step in the right direction, as is fixing the glaring bugs it has. But this is still a lazy design that takes no skill on the part of the attacker to apply.Karn Wild-Blood - PC NA AD Nord Warden2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don’t know what’s up with all the set procs disregarding LoS recently. It started with Infernal Guardian and took them months to fix it. Now Zaan etc all don’t follow LoS rules. It might as well be a feature now, seeing the resource flag guards attacks also go through walls... LoS is seriously borked.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.6 -
worsttankever✭✭✭Also, remove the proc on Siege please !Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just remove all proc sets. People should learn to use their own abilities.
I concur. Stam users need to get rid of their Proc sets and just spam dizzy swing until it stuns, then spam execute until they can DBOS. These Proc sets just make the game cheesy and ruin the skill required to land a 1 second two hand ability.
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✭Sloads even able to hip-hop you IRL...
Seriously, why Sloads must stopped to work if out of LOS or far away? This is DOT, just as any another DOT!Edited by SilverWF on July 24, 2018 9:24PM- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
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✭✭Sloads even able to hip-hop you IRL...
Seriously, why Sloads must stopped to work if out of LOS or far away? This is DOT, just as any another DOT!
Read the recent PTS patch notes. It was turned into a projectile in order to be counterableIf you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.0 -
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My bad, it was on ESO live where Wrobel said something along the lines of making it an easily visible projectile so people have time to react. As you can imagine a projectile coming from behind a wall or 100+ feet away ruins the whole point of this changeIf you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.2 -
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My bad, it was on ESO live where Wrobel said something along the lines of making it an easily visible projectile so people have time to react. As you can imagine a projectile coming from behind a wall or 100+ feet away ruins the whole point of this change
Personally I think they're so close to messing up with this set in a big way. They are dancing really hard on the line between how sets and abilities function.
It's already, like you said, a projectile. While, as I read it, it's intended to bypass LoS and range (no listed range iirc)
But how they decide what is supposed to do what is a guess to me.
Elf bane finally affects grothdarr, just 3 years after Gina literally said it was supposed to2 -
PureEnvelope35✭✭✭✭Just remove all proc sets. People should learn to use their own abilities.
I concur. Stam users need to get rid of their Proc sets and just spam dizzy swing until it stuns, then spam execute until they can DBOS. These Proc sets just make the game cheesy and ruin the skill required to land a 1 second two hand ability.
Or use Ome Hand and Shield abilities like low slash or puncture,flurry from dual wield, class spammables with stamina morphs, instead of a clunky Two Handed spammable ability...Fashion is the true endgame.PC EU1 -
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✭Just remove all proc sets. People should learn to use their own abilities.
I concur. Stam users need to get rid of their Proc sets and just spam dizzy swing until it stuns, then spam execute until they can DBOS. These Proc sets just make the game cheesy and ruin the skill required to land a 1 second two hand ability.
Says the guy running skoria sloads duroks and tosses caltrops out on his stamsorc before rending
Effectively bypassing player involvement and watching an enemy die to proc sets.
You using master dw too?
At least landing your abilities and timing them to complete a burst requires more interaction and thinking. Players used to have to do that while also sustaining and mitigating now they can be an absolute chimp like yourself and toss on crutches.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just remove all proc sets. People should learn to use their own abilities.
I concur. Stam users need to get rid of their Proc sets and just spam dizzy swing until it stuns, then spam execute until they can DBOS. These Proc sets just make the game cheesy and ruin the skill required to land a 1 second two hand ability.
Says the guy running skoria sloads duroks and tosses caltrops out on his stamsorc before rending
Effectively bypassing player involvement and watching an enemy die to proc sets.
You using master dw too?
At least landing your abilities and timing them to complete a burst requires more interaction and thinking. Players used to have to do that while also sustaining and mitigating now they can be an absolute chimp like yourself and toss on crutches.
Sarcasm doesn’t translate well.
I don’t use Durok’s, though.Fake news.
No master duel wield either. I suppose if you die to just rending slashes, caltrops, and sloads then you need to get gud? I mean, I know wearing sloads allows me to insta-win every single encounter, but at some point you should probably step out of the caltrops. At least do that before the game computes that I’m wearing sloads and automatically removes all of your health.
Oh, and feel free to post what skills and sets I’m allowed to use that would meet your gaming standards. Thank you.Edited by ChunkyCat on July 25, 2018 3:01PM2 -
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✭Just remove all proc sets. People should learn to use their own abilities.
I concur. Stam users need to get rid of their Proc sets and just spam dizzy swing until it stuns, then spam execute until they can DBOS. These Proc sets just make the game cheesy and ruin the skill required to land a 1 second two hand ability.
Says the guy running skoria sloads duroks and tosses caltrops out on his stamsorc before rending
Effectively bypassing player involvement and watching an enemy die to proc sets.
You using master dw too?
At least landing your abilities and timing them to complete a burst requires more interaction and thinking. Players used to have to do that while also sustaining and mitigating now they can be an absolute chimp like yourself and toss on crutches.
Sarcasm doesn’t translate well.
I don’t use Durok’s, though.Fake news.
No master duel wield either. I suppose if you die to just rending slashes, caltrops, and sloads then you need to get gud? I mean, I know wearing sloads allows me to insta-win every single encounter, but at some point you should probably step out of the caltrops. At least do that before the game computes that I’m wearing sloads and automatically removes all of your health.
Oh, and feel free to post what skills and sets I’m allowed to use that would meet your gaming standards. Thank you.
Yet you are still using skoria sloads and have the ability to add even more aids (duroks/master dw)
And with the current mindset that you’ve already taken I wouldn’t be too surprised to see you slot them, if only to enhance your riveting gameplay.
Your sarcasm was noticed. You clearly think just using the abilities available to us, bolstered by raw stats, isn’t any different than using proc sets to acquire kills.
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✭✭✭✭✭Ahh. I see the issue now.
I’m only supposed to “build” for raw weapon damage and then time the use of abilities on my bar to create a “burst” combination that removes as much health as possible, in as short a time as possible, as opposed to building for damage over time. “Damage over time” builds are un-sportsman-like.
Got it.
Any other rules and regulations I’m supposed to adhere to?
This is all very insightful. I thank you again for your patience as I’m still learning from your wisdom.
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✭✭Ahh. I see the issue now.
I’m only supposed to “build” for raw weapon damage and then time the use of abilities on my bar to create a “burst” combination that removes as much health as possible, in as short a time as possible, as opposed to building for damage over time. “Damage over time” builds are un-sportsman-like.
Got it.
Any other rules and regulations I’m supposed to adhere to?
This is all very insightful. I thank you again for your patience as I’m still learning from your wisdom.
Feel free to build for dmg over time as much as you want and if its not working feel free to ask for buffs to that playstyle as well. No issues. However you are not building for anything with crap like sloads. The game builds it for you. Huge difference.Edited by pieratsos on July 25, 2018 5:12PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭For range comparison, this is 28 meters
And this is how far I could get
Please dont let this go live as it makes the projectile nerf meaningless. No one wants to deal with a broken set for another 3-4 months @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
I listen to the thread, but I can't make sense of you pictures still. Is sloads going through trees or walls or explain more? I can't tell where target dummy is either.1 -
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✭✭For range comparison, this is 28 meters
And this is how far I could get
Please dont let this go live as it makes the projectile nerf meaningless. No one wants to deal with a broken set for another 3-4 months @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
I listen to the thread, but I can't make sense of you pictures still. Is sloads going through trees or walls or explain more? I can't tell where target dummy is either.
On the second picture the dummy is so far away to the point where u cant even see the dummy itself. Hence the thread.1 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭More bitching about sloads It already is *** now but you even wished it was worse lmao might as well remove the set all together that would probably make everyone that's complaining about it happy1
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I've encircled where the target skeleton is
Bigger circle in this picture is where the skeleton stands and the smaller circle below is 28 meters away (where I stood in the first picture)
So let me understand, is it the range you are showing? My apologies, but how is this out of line if sight? I was thinking something like when healing used go through walls.0 -
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✭✭More bitching about sloads It already is *** now but you even wished it was worse lmao might as well remove the set all together that would probably make everyone that's complaining about it happy
Why am I not surprised to see you defending this bug? Its always the same names in this forum that defend bugs, exploits or imbalanced sets and skills.
Let me explain one more time... there is no point in making this set a projectile if it goes through walls and shoots from 100+ meters. Its already easy to proc as it is, it needs to be clearly visible to be counterableEdited by Ankael07 on July 25, 2018 6:13PMIf you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.1
