DarcyMardin wrote: »

Some of us have subscribed from the beginning of this game, primarily for the craft bag, paying $15 a month for over four years...and you want to buy it for 1500 crowns? LMAO.

you don't ask, you don't get.

You laugh becuase you've accepted the hundreds you've spent on a single game. You don't want to accept you've been happily getting ripped off for years.

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

You want the Craft Bag then Sub.

It is the primary benefit of subbing. Remove that incentive and enough people will cancel their subs that this game will die. Or become the Cash Shop P2W that no one wants.

Its kind of insulting that you want to destroy this game because you want the craft bag for basically one months subscription.

You know what the primary benefit of subbing used to be? Playing ESO.

ZOS created this whole dumb situation... players shouldn't have to suffer. I remember when players on these forums BEGGED ZOS not to go B2P, but they did it anyway. They created "Tamriel Unlimited" and told us that buying DLC was just as good as renting month to month. Well, that turned out to be a BIG FAT LIE.

So yes, OP is correct: the crafting bag is a SLAP IN THE FACE to every player who shelled out COLD HARD CASH up front for all the DLC!

Finally someone who sees what's actually going on. Be prepared for a bunch of people with more money than sense (regardless of how little money they have) ready to take the p***

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

Having the Craft Bag as an ESO Plus only perk is insulting. You give us more and more items all the time and nobody's bank can handle that. I'm not paying a monthly subscription just for the privilege but I will buy it outright for about 1500 Crowns.

hehe waaaaaa

Sparr0w wrote: »

Actually on Xbox it works out cheaper buying a month ESO+ than buying 1500 crowns... js

PC too. they want to keep you subscribing

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

ZOS created this whole dumb situation... players shouldn't have to suffer. I remember when players on these forums BEGGED ZOS not to go B2P, but they did it anyway. They created "Tamriel Unlimited" and told us that buying DLC was just as good as renting month to month. Well, that turned out to be a BIG FAT LIE.

So yes, OP is correct: the crafting bag is a SLAP IN THE FACE to every player who shelled out COLD HARD CASH up front for all the DLC!

ZOS had to go to B2P due to console players. It is pretty bad both for ESO and, as result, for players - but ZOS simply did not have a choice.

As for those who bought DLC and now regret it - it was their own decisions, they should have plan better. All information was available, pretty much only double number of housing items was added to benefits later. Everyone is responsible for their decisions, so let them slap themselves.

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

Aeslief wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

I'm not paying a monthly subscription just for the privilege but I will buy it outright for about 1500 Crowns.

Now who’s being insulting?

how exactly is that insulting?

"I want something you have, but I'm not paying more than you stupid suckers pay per month for it!" - That's how.

JKorr wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

DarcyMardin wrote: »

Some of us have subscribed from the beginning of this game, primarily for the craft bag, paying $15 a month for over four years...and you want to buy it for 1500 crowns? LMAO.

you don't ask, you don't get.

You laugh becuase you've accepted the hundreds you've spent on a single game. You don't want to accept you've been happily getting ripped off for years.

Sorry. This is a hobby. Something I do for fun. I have a few hobbies; crocheting, crafts, reading, computer games.... This one is about the cheapest one I've ever tried. If I buy a new single player game, I've paid at least $60.00 for it. Depending on the game it can be over/finished in a hundred hours or less. $60.00 is worth what? *4 months* of ESO sub? If I've lost interest/the game is no longer enjoyable, I stop playing. I've been playing since early access, and I'm still enjoying the game. In *your* view, because you don't consider it to be worth the cost, I've been getting ripped off. In my view, I've gotten and am still getting more entertainment for my money than any other activity I engage in for fun.

it depends on how much you play. Also, some of us have guilds to run. A lot of people play longer then just as long as it takes to do all the single player quests. Some of us log one daily for a load of different reasons.
Whether or not you're happy to pay, doesn't negate the fact that it is a rip off

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

wow you sound like my ex. Do you always read so far between the lines that you go insane and start seeing things that aren't there?

I might be your ex.

vamp_emily wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

wow you sound like my ex. Do you always read so far between the lines that you go insane and start seeing things that aren't there?

I might be your ex.

doubtful. she's too much of a coward to face her shame after what she did.

Soella wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

ZOS created this whole dumb situation... players shouldn't have to suffer. I remember when players on these forums BEGGED ZOS not to go B2P, but they did it anyway. They created "Tamriel Unlimited" and told us that buying DLC was just as good as renting month to month. Well, that turned out to be a BIG FAT LIE.

So yes, OP is correct: the crafting bag is a SLAP IN THE FACE to every player who shelled out COLD HARD CASH up front for all the DLC!

ZOS had to go to B2P due to console players. It is pretty bad both for ESO and, as result, for players - but ZOS simply did not have a choice.

As for those who bought DLC and now regret it - it was their own decisions, they should have plan better. All information was available, pretty much only double number of housing items was added to benefits later. Everyone is responsible for their decisions, so let them slap themselves.

#1 False. ZOS did NOT have to go B2P because of consoles. They CHOSE to do this when they found out they were not going to be able to get Sony and Microsoft to waive their monthly online fees (e.g. Xbox Live) for ESO players. There was no technical reason ESO couldn't have kept it's own subscription fee.

#2 False. All information was NOT available. The crafting bag wasn't added until much later after Tamriel Unlimited launched. DLC purchasers had no idea they were never going to get access to this important content.

Unlimited inventory bags should be banned outright. Yes, even if it's a paid "extra" feature.

Inventory management is a hallmark of RPGs.

The craft bag should remain exclusive to ESO+ subscribers. Its needed to support the game and keep it afloat.

What more storage space? Buy bag upgrades, bank upgrades and the eight storage chests.

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

DarcyMardin wrote: »

Some of us have subscribed from the beginning of this game, primarily for the craft bag, paying $15 a month for over four years...and you want to buy it for 1500 crowns? LMAO.

you don't ask, you don't get.

You laugh becuase you've accepted the hundreds you've spent on a single game. You don't want to accept you've been happily getting ripped off for years.

Sorry. This is a hobby. Something I do for fun. I have a few hobbies; crocheting, crafts, reading, computer games.... This one is about the cheapest one I've ever tried. If I buy a new single player game, I've paid at least $60.00 for it. Depending on the game it can be over/finished in a hundred hours or less. $60.00 is worth what? *4 months* of ESO sub? If I've lost interest/the game is no longer enjoyable, I stop playing. I've been playing since early access, and I'm still enjoying the game. In *your* view, because you don't consider it to be worth the cost, I've been getting ripped off. In my view, I've gotten and am still getting more entertainment for my money than any other activity I engage in for fun.

it depends on how much you play. Also, some of us have guilds to run. A lot of people play longer then just as long as it takes to do all the single player quests. Some of us log one daily for a load of different reasons.
Whether or not you're happy to pay, doesn't negate the fact that it is a rip off

Yes, oh righteous one. I have no clue about any of that. Despite the fact I'm in 4 guilds, officer in two of them, one of the main crafters for all 4, log in daily to do more than just the dailys, farm mats so guildies with lower than cp160 characters can get free gear/food/glyphs/alchemy potions, and do my quests for all 15 characters on one account, and 6 on the second account I have no idea how you must suffer. Cause, like, I was doing the same things before the crafting bag and playing a lot of inventory shuffle to make sure I had the mats to do the crafting free of charge for my guildmates. I've been here since early access and mandatory subs. I'm glad ZOS decided to give the players who have decided the game is worth the sub/steady income a perk like the crafting bag. Again, it is your view it is a rip off. There might be other games out there that will provide the experience you're looking for. I wish you luck finding one.