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What is the MOST OP thing Right Now (v2.0)
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Mag SorcHave literally quit playing because of rune cage bugging/being unblock/dodgable. Then slap sloads on top of that and I can’t seem to pvp for me than 30 mins then I just log off.
Whoever tf is running the combat changes and keeps putting proc sets in the game for zos has the intellectual capacity of a gopher when it comes to pvpEdited by Mohegan_Sneak on July 16, 2018 9:38PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭Mag SorcBest defense: Shield Stacking
Best Burst: Curse+Frags+Mage's Fury
Tied for best mobility: Streak
Best CC: Rune Cage
This class is the very definition of overtuned, and since you can stack Curses they are the best Xv1 class, and Shield Stacking makes them the best 1v1 class.10 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SloadsPhoenixGrey wrote: »How did classes or class skills make this poll?
Combination of what placed highly on the last one and what people complain about a lot at present.Edited by Thogard on July 16, 2018 5:09PMPC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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Amdar_Godkiller✭✭✭✭✭Mag Sorcthankyourat wrote: »
As someone who plays argonian on all specs for style reasons, i have to say argonian is in the current form too strong.
It's not totally op, it won't make a bad player good or a threat like the rest of the things mentioned here but running argonian will often enhance a good player more than running a different race.
Argonians are just a good choice on anything but aren't bis for everything.
Orc wins on stamsorc, altmer wins by far on magsorc, dunmer is better on magdk imo, redguard and bosmer are better on stamnb.
For magnb and magplar argonian are just bis however.
I think however a huge reason why people say argonians are op is because
1. they are great for 1vX with decent sustain and good survivability and people who get 1vXed often cry the most
2. argonians are same as khajiit more visible than other races, when you are fighting a Human race you can't exactly tell which one you are facing, at least not as easy as seeing that it's an argonian.
In the end i think reducing the heal to 4% taken and dealt as well as reducing the health to 7% then argonians would be better balanced.
But there are other races that need a buff first before argonians, redguards or altmer need a nerf, namely Nord, imperial and breton
It's the defile resistance really that needs to go. Something that so dramatically affects every other race but argonians have an immunity against. Honestly you could buff the healing done and taken to 6%, if their OP defile immunity was removed.0 -
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they are only immune to defile coming from disease Damage.Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »
As someone who plays argonian on all specs for style reasons, i have to say argonian is in the current form too strong.
It's not totally op, it won't make a bad player good or a threat like the rest of the things mentioned here but running argonian will often enhance a good player more than running a different race.
Argonians are just a good choice on anything but aren't bis for everything.
Orc wins on stamsorc, altmer wins by far on magsorc, dunmer is better on magdk imo, redguard and bosmer are better on stamnb.
For magnb and magplar argonian are just bis however.
I think however a huge reason why people say argonians are op is because
1. they are great for 1vX with decent sustain and good survivability and people who get 1vXed often cry the most
2. argonians are same as khajiit more visible than other races, when you are fighting a Human race you can't exactly tell which one you are facing, at least not as easy as seeing that it's an argonian.
In the end i think reducing the heal to 4% taken and dealt as well as reducing the health to 7% then argonians would be better balanced.
But there are other races that need a buff first before argonians, redguards or altmer need a nerf, namely Nord, imperial and breton
It's the defile resistance really that needs to go. Something that so dramatically affects every other race but argonians have an immunity against. Honestly you could buff the healing done and taken to 6%, if their OP defile immunity was removed.
that is:
incap: oh wait applies defile anyway
lethal arrow: oh still applies the defile
other disease abilities? like Killers blade and assassins scourge, oh wait People use incap before
and disease enchant: the only Thing you can actually say is being used by many Players
if you actually think that the immunity to one of the weakest and less used Sources of Major defile is the reason why argonians are very strong then you should ask why People don't think bosmer are op when they are equally immune to the Status Major defile coming from disease damage
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mursie✭✭✭✭✭If you could only vote for ONE thing to label as “OP”...
The last time we did this, stamina warden came out on top, with earthgore and stamblades also getting quite a few votes. Let’s see what’s changed.
Last thread:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/397880/what-is-the-most-op-thing-right-now/p1
where in the hell is rune cage? it's the only thing in PVP that is completely broken at the moment.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SloadsIf you could only vote for ONE thing to label as “OP”...
The last time we did this, stamina warden came out on top, with earthgore and stamblades also getting quite a few votes. Let’s see what’s changed.
Last thread:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/397880/what-is-the-most-op-thing-right-now/p1
where in the hell is rune cage? it's the only thing in PVP that is completely broken at the moment.
Mag sorc is on the list and rune cage is exclusive to the sorcerer class.PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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Amdar_Godkiller✭✭✭✭✭Mag Sorc
they are only immune to defile coming from disease Damage.Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »
As someone who plays argonian on all specs for style reasons, i have to say argonian is in the current form too strong.
It's not totally op, it won't make a bad player good or a threat like the rest of the things mentioned here but running argonian will often enhance a good player more than running a different race.
Argonians are just a good choice on anything but aren't bis for everything.
Orc wins on stamsorc, altmer wins by far on magsorc, dunmer is better on magdk imo, redguard and bosmer are better on stamnb.
For magnb and magplar argonian are just bis however.
I think however a huge reason why people say argonians are op is because
1. they are great for 1vX with decent sustain and good survivability and people who get 1vXed often cry the most
2. argonians are same as khajiit more visible than other races, when you are fighting a Human race you can't exactly tell which one you are facing, at least not as easy as seeing that it's an argonian.
In the end i think reducing the heal to 4% taken and dealt as well as reducing the health to 7% then argonians would be better balanced.
But there are other races that need a buff first before argonians, redguards or altmer need a nerf, namely Nord, imperial and breton
It's the defile resistance really that needs to go. Something that so dramatically affects every other race but argonians have an immunity against. Honestly you could buff the healing done and taken to 6%, if their OP defile immunity was removed.
that is:
incap: oh wait applies defile anyway
lethal arrow: oh still applies the defile
other disease abilities? like Killers blade and assassins scourge, oh wait People use incap before
and disease enchant: the only Thing you can actually say is being used by many Players
if you actually think that the immunity to one of the weakest and less used Sources of Major defile is the reason why argonians are very strong then you should ask why People don't think bosmer are op when they are equally immune to the Status Major defile coming from disease damage
Well1 million AD nightblades would agree that Bosmer are OP.
That being said, I wasn't aware that the immunity only dealt with a single source of defile.
In that case, I don't think anything is that OP on Argonian. Maybe the amount of bonus sustain they get from potion, but 10% more healing isn't game breaking.0 -
mursie✭✭✭✭✭If you could only vote for ONE thing to label as “OP”...
The last time we did this, stamina warden came out on top, with earthgore and stamblades also getting quite a few votes. Let’s see what’s changed.
Last thread:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/397880/what-is-the-most-op-thing-right-now/p1
where in the hell is rune cage? it's the only thing in PVP that is completely broken at the moment.
Mag sorc is on the list and rune cage is exclusive to the sorcerer class.
I figured as much - but I will say, i don't want to paint magsorc with the broadbrush of OP. I truly think it's just that one ability. if that was a melee range ability (leave the defensive rune cage as is but make the offensive ranged one a 6m max range melee ability) then I'd be totally fine with mag sorc.0 -
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✭SloadsPhoenixGrey wrote: »How did classes or class skills make this poll?
Combination of what placed highly on the last one and what people complain about a lot at present.
Oh I see. You must then forgive my noob ass for picking stamden the last time. I can't imagine anyone complaining about classes / skills right now or in the near future.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Argonians were the laughing stock of ESO for so long.
Templars didn't even work for a long time.
I'm always gonna have a soft spot for them because of this
In Vanilla eso the only way you could get people to make argonians was to trick them by saying "Argonians can outswim slaughterfish".
In vanilla eso Argonians were actually super good for Magicka Nightbladeshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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✭Stambladerfennell_ESO wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Argonians were the laughing stock of ESO for so long.
Templars didn't even work for a long time.
I'm always gonna have a soft spot for them because of this
In Vanilla eso the only way you could get people to make argonians was to trick them by saying "Argonians can outswim slaughterfish".
In vanilla eso Argonians were actually super good for Magicka Nightblades
You mean before potion cd became 45 seconds?Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel0 -
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they are only immune to defile coming from disease Damage.Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »
As someone who plays argonian on all specs for style reasons, i have to say argonian is in the current form too strong.
It's not totally op, it won't make a bad player good or a threat like the rest of the things mentioned here but running argonian will often enhance a good player more than running a different race.
Argonians are just a good choice on anything but aren't bis for everything.
Orc wins on stamsorc, altmer wins by far on magsorc, dunmer is better on magdk imo, redguard and bosmer are better on stamnb.
For magnb and magplar argonian are just bis however.
I think however a huge reason why people say argonians are op is because
1. they are great for 1vX with decent sustain and good survivability and people who get 1vXed often cry the most
2. argonians are same as khajiit more visible than other races, when you are fighting a Human race you can't exactly tell which one you are facing, at least not as easy as seeing that it's an argonian.
In the end i think reducing the heal to 4% taken and dealt as well as reducing the health to 7% then argonians would be better balanced.
But there are other races that need a buff first before argonians, redguards or altmer need a nerf, namely Nord, imperial and breton
It's the defile resistance really that needs to go. Something that so dramatically affects every other race but argonians have an immunity against. Honestly you could buff the healing done and taken to 6%, if their OP defile immunity was removed.
that is:
incap: oh wait applies defile anyway
lethal arrow: oh still applies the defile
other disease abilities? like Killers blade and assassins scourge, oh wait People use incap before
and disease enchant: the only Thing you can actually say is being used by many Players
if you actually think that the immunity to one of the weakest and less used Sources of Major defile is the reason why argonians are very strong then you should ask why People don't think bosmer are op when they are equally immune to the Status Major defile coming from disease damage
The racial immunities only apply to status effects.
ie *poisoned* or *diseased* or *burning* or *chilled* or *concussed* (and no race has lightning resist btw, but adding shock resist to jewelry gives you the same immunity (or did))
Anyone can get that immunity, as per the racial, with Glyph of [element] Resist.
Bosmer being immune to disease and poison status effects is pretty minor (same for argonians). It's a nice little quality of life thing, but it hasn't a lot of bearing on play.
FYI these immunities to status effects have been in the game since vanilla. The recent Summerset patch notes were a clarification of what they did, not an addition.0 -
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they are only immune to defile coming from disease Damage.Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »
As someone who plays argonian on all specs for style reasons, i have to say argonian is in the current form too strong.
It's not totally op, it won't make a bad player good or a threat like the rest of the things mentioned here but running argonian will often enhance a good player more than running a different race.
Argonians are just a good choice on anything but aren't bis for everything.
Orc wins on stamsorc, altmer wins by far on magsorc, dunmer is better on magdk imo, redguard and bosmer are better on stamnb.
For magnb and magplar argonian are just bis however.
I think however a huge reason why people say argonians are op is because
1. they are great for 1vX with decent sustain and good survivability and people who get 1vXed often cry the most
2. argonians are same as khajiit more visible than other races, when you are fighting a Human race you can't exactly tell which one you are facing, at least not as easy as seeing that it's an argonian.
In the end i think reducing the heal to 4% taken and dealt as well as reducing the health to 7% then argonians would be better balanced.
But there are other races that need a buff first before argonians, redguards or altmer need a nerf, namely Nord, imperial and breton
It's the defile resistance really that needs to go. Something that so dramatically affects every other race but argonians have an immunity against. Honestly you could buff the healing done and taken to 6%, if their OP defile immunity was removed.
that is:
incap: oh wait applies defile anyway
lethal arrow: oh still applies the defile
other disease abilities? like Killers blade and assassins scourge, oh wait People use incap before
and disease enchant: the only Thing you can actually say is being used by many Players
if you actually think that the immunity to one of the weakest and less used Sources of Major defile is the reason why argonians are very strong then you should ask why People don't think bosmer are op when they are equally immune to the Status Major defile coming from disease damage
All races are jealous of the Nord's immunity to Chilled proc minor main!
Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.3 -
Mag SorcJimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »DBoS isn't the most OP thing in the world (sloooaaadds), but it's highly overcentralizing. Out of 10 class combos it's used commonly as a primary offensive ult on all of them except:
Magicka Dragonknight (Ferocious leap)
Stamina Nightblade (Incapacitating Strike)
Magicka Nightblade (Incapacitating Strike)
That's not a big list.
Meteor is more common on magsorcs and a lot of stam knights use leap, but both those class still use DBoS pretty frequently.
Dawnbreaker is so good that it severely limits what ults see play. When was the last time you saw berserking strike or lacerate? Meteor is supposed to be the mage equivalent but magplars and magdens still use DBoS since they don't have a blockbreaking CC.
And lets not even mention the poor vampires.
I don't remember where I read it but I thought I remember seeing ZOS say that a goal for updates this year was to bring more variety for ultimate usage? Haven't seem much of that yet. Instead of a nerf to DBOS, how about a buff to some other ults? Make sure for every class at least one of the class ultimates is enticing enough to compete with DBOS or Meteor?Redguard Dragonknight - Ebonheart Pact - Denzel Roundbelly (PVP Main)
High Elf Sorcerer - Ebonheart Pact - Skinny Roundbelly (PVE Main - Stormproof)0 -
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✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »
they are only immune to defile coming from disease Damage.Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »
As someone who plays argonian on all specs for style reasons, i have to say argonian is in the current form too strong.
It's not totally op, it won't make a bad player good or a threat like the rest of the things mentioned here but running argonian will often enhance a good player more than running a different race.
Argonians are just a good choice on anything but aren't bis for everything.
Orc wins on stamsorc, altmer wins by far on magsorc, dunmer is better on magdk imo, redguard and bosmer are better on stamnb.
For magnb and magplar argonian are just bis however.
I think however a huge reason why people say argonians are op is because
1. they are great for 1vX with decent sustain and good survivability and people who get 1vXed often cry the most
2. argonians are same as khajiit more visible than other races, when you are fighting a Human race you can't exactly tell which one you are facing, at least not as easy as seeing that it's an argonian.
In the end i think reducing the heal to 4% taken and dealt as well as reducing the health to 7% then argonians would be better balanced.
But there are other races that need a buff first before argonians, redguards or altmer need a nerf, namely Nord, imperial and breton
It's the defile resistance really that needs to go. Something that so dramatically affects every other race but argonians have an immunity against. Honestly you could buff the healing done and taken to 6%, if their OP defile immunity was removed.
that is:
incap: oh wait applies defile anyway
lethal arrow: oh still applies the defile
other disease abilities? like Killers blade and assassins scourge, oh wait People use incap before
and disease enchant: the only Thing you can actually say is being used by many Players
if you actually think that the immunity to one of the weakest and less used Sources of Major defile is the reason why argonians are very strong then you should ask why People don't think bosmer are op when they are equally immune to the Status Major defile coming from disease damage
All races are jealous of the Nord's immunity to Chilled proc minor main!
And the totally overperforming 6% damage reduction!!!
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callen4492✭✭✭Sloadsthankyourat wrote: »What's broken is the fact that I can use most of that in one build what's stopping me from being a Stam warden using sloads/ duroks/ earthgore/ master duel weild with resource poisons and dbos with spin2win
You would still probably get destroyed by a magsorc. That’s how op magsorcs are. If I could vote again I would probably change my answer to magsorcs but sloads just needs to go.Edited by callen4492 on July 18, 2018 6:52PM0 -
del9✭✭✭✭Sloadscallen4492 wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »What's broken is the fact that I can use most of that in one build what's stopping me from being a Stam warden using sloads/ duroks/ earthgore/ master duel weild with resource poisons and dbos with spin2win
You would still probably get destroyed by a magsorc. That’s how op magsorcs are. If I could vote again I would probably change my answer to magsorcs but sloads just needs to go.
If you running sloads, resource poisions, and earthgore - and get destroyed by a magsorc, you got outplayed.PCNA2 -
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✭SloadsGoblin nerf is the most op thing
Right now.
Haven’t been able to be a yabba for a year and a half.
#goblinpolynowEdited by Irylia on July 19, 2018 1:44PM1 -
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✭✭Stamina WardenThere was no option for it, but I'd vote for "The NPCs in Cyrodil". I'm a semi-decent PvPer, and those things regularly kick my butt. Then they throw an eclipse on me and I end up kicking my own butt. It takes me forever to solo capture a resource now. Nerf the guards!
PS. Sorry for not playing alongPC/Xbox NA
Unchained | Unstoppable | Mindmender | Swashbuckler Supreme | Planes Breaker | Dawnbringer | Godslayer | Immortal Redeemer | Gryphon Heart | Tick-tock Tormentor | Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Stormproof | Grand Overlord | Grand Mastercrafter | Master Grappler | Tamriel Hero0 -
Dredlord✭✭✭✭✭Mag SorcWow the "sloads is op" crew here....
Your scrub is showing and your potatoe is hanging out too.
Ps. I still dont use sloads0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SloadsWow the "sloads is op" crew here....
Your scrub is showing and your potatoe is hanging out too.
Ps. I still dont use sloads
Aren’t you a no-cloak nightblade?
PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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✭✭✭✭SloadsNot just Sloads but proc sets in general, and the devs apparent lack of concern.
Here are two death recaps from yesterday. Who needs skills, or even to press a couple of extra buttons when you have procs...
Sometimes the procs hit as hard as an ultimate...
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✭Master DW BleedsI think quite a lot of things are overperforming but some is just less used. Like bleeds have the same effect as sloads to any class that doesn't use shields but it just hits way harder.
But yeah poisons going through cc immunity is op. Zaan, bleeds, sloads, defile and cost poisons are all things I hate most
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