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What is the MOST OP thing Right Now (v2.0)

Thogard
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If you could only vote for ONE thing to label as “OP”...

The last time we did this, stamina warden came out on top, with earthgore and stamblades also getting quite a few votes. Let’s see what’s changed.

Last thread:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/397880/what-is-the-most-op-thing-right-now/p1
PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

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What is the MOST OP thing Right Now (v2.0) 274 votes

Stamina Warden
4%
Bam_BamIdinuseSkoomahVynistSkinzzsnejremllovsusmitdsUnfadingsilenceStibbonsp00txmilllaurie 11 votes
Earthgore
1%
Reloader84ChunkyCatAnkael07 3 votes
Dawnbreaker of Smiting
2%
GilvothBfish22090CeeJonesygriffkhalifaAedarylJimmy_The_Fixergabriebe 7 votes
Mag Sorc
37%
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Steel Tornado (spin2win)
2%
ArobainDurhamSurprisedFour91MayraelTheRealSnikerBeardimusVeiledCriticismGprime31 8 votes
Stamblade
5%
DatoliteItoqmoleculeEmma_Overloadbri5NBrookusJormasaurusAlurueRajinPVPNightSquirrelMicah_BayerKikkeGrim_SlaughterfishIZZEFlameLashDivineFirstYOLOPriyasekarssk 16 votes
Sloads
29%
Solarikenarkansas_ESOAltercatorKadoozyThrabenRikumarulpwYakidafiKoensolSeptimus_MagnaVarisVarisseblatourneb18_ESOVilestrideKartalinEdziuRagnaroek93kollege14a5Darkmage1337VahrokhTankinDat 80 votes
Durok’s Bane
5%
ellahellabellaXvorgGuyNamedSeanQbikenDark_ShadySpeed_KillsGC0amir412LoDG_WonFur_like_snowSixty5StaticWaveJobooAGSll_RevJXNwarrior 15 votes
Resource Poisons
7%
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Master DW Bleeds
4%
ThunderknucklesKayshaVikingBerserkerku5hAmpnodeD0RID0RI240HeresyallNupidStoobMoonsorrowevonieeCrixus8000 11 votes
  • Thogard
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    Sloads
    Like last time, let’s not argue over whether or not something is OP. If it’s on the list, it’s been considered OP by someone in the last three months.

    Instead, please discuss the situations in which something might be OP. For instance, master DW bleed might not be very noticeable if you’re in a large keep fight. Discuss the situations in which each of these is strongest, not whether or not they’re actually strong... otherwise the mods might shut down the post ;)
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • White wabbit
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    Runecage
  • Bfish22090
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    Dawnbreaker of Smiting
    smiting DB. was gonna say sloads but DB will probably never be addressed
  • Thogard
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    Sloads
    Bfish22090 wrote: »
    smiting DB. was gonna say sloads but DB will probably never be addressed

    I originally had mag sorc separated out into two categories.. mag Sorc - rune cage, and mag sorc - shield stacking.

    I’m glad I condensed them to make room for DBoS. It wasn’t on the poll list last time, but it does get a TON of use.
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • brandonv516
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    Resource Poisons
    Poisons because I've watched my 15k stamina suffer quite easily due to them.
  • Solariken
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    Sloads
    How da fuh is Rune Cage not on your list? I would have picked that.

    Sload's I guess but I think the incoming change is pretty good.
  • Thogard
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    Solariken wrote: »
    How da fuh is Rune Cage not on your list? I would have picked that.

    Sload's I guess but I think the incoming change is pretty good.
    Mag sorc is on the list. That’s rune cage
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • arkansas_ESO
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    Sloads
    It's not even a contest lol


    Grand Overlord 25/8/17
  • GeneralSezme
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    Resource Poisons
    All poisons are dumb
    Invictus
    Cheese Engine
    HIGH LATËNCY

    My bombing videos

    Notable toons:
    Pact Corsair- Breton Magblade Former Emperor BWB Prolly Stole your scroll and bombed you
    Lack of Aoe caps: Prolly bombed u
    Neraz Gulio- Stamplar- Former Empress BWB
    Paints-Her-Face - prolly painted your face
    Zealot of the Great Sun- Blazeplar, frmr Emp Vivec


  • mikecrci
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    What the heck is a sload??
  • Kartalin
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    Sloads
    Siege, specifically scattershots and meatbags, in no CP campaigns

    Prepare to bend over and assume the position next update, CP players.
    • PC/NA
    • Karllotta, AD Magplar, AR 50
    • Hatched-In-Glacier, DC Magden, AR 44
    • Miraliys, EP Warden, AR 35
    • Kartalin, AD Stamblade, AR 35
    • Miralys, AD Magsorc, AR 35
    • Milthalas, EP Magblade, AR 35
    • Kallenna, AD Magcro, AR 34
    • Lyranais, EP Magsorc, AR 33
    • Lemon Party - Meanest Girls - @ Kartalin - Youtube
  • Thogard
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    Sloads
    Kartalin wrote: »
    Siege, specifically scattershots and meatbags, in no CP campaigns

    Prepare to bend over and assume the position next update, CP players.

    I’m specifically saving siege for the next iteration of this poll, when the PTS changes go live, making siege strong in CP PvP too.
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • Waffennacht
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    mikecrci wrote: »
    What the heck is a sload??

    An amphibious Mer critter(s) that's naturally necromancy inclined

    Apparently, evil by instinct - 0 morals (culturally speaking) - also why they really never group up.

    As for OP?

    Poisons are right up there imo. But so are a few others.

    NBs vs Sorcs is always a good forum brawl
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • Jimmy_The_Fixer
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    Dawnbreaker of Smiting
    DBoS isn't the most OP thing in the world (sloooaaadds), but it's highly overcentralizing. Out of 10 class combos it's used commonly as a primary offensive ult on all of them except:

    Magicka Dragonknight (Ferocious leap)
    Stamina Nightblade (Incapacitating Strike)
    Magicka Nightblade (Incapacitating Strike)

    That's not a big list.

    Meteor is more common on magsorcs and a lot of stam knights use leap, but both those class still use DBoS pretty frequently.

    Dawnbreaker is so good that it severely limits what ults see play. When was the last time you saw berserking strike or lacerate? Meteor is supposed to be the mage equivalent but magplars and magdens still use DBoS since they don't have a blockbreaking CC.

    And lets not even mention the poor vampires.

  • WreckfulAbandon
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    Resource Poisons
    If they were still 60% I don't think there would even be a debate. But 30% increase in cost is still brutal in any scenario. Um... yeah, worse than Sloads even, don't know how anyone can choose Sloads over cost increase poisons. Especially after the proposed changes which are likely only the beginning.
    PC NA

    All my comments are regarding PvP
  • Vapirko
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    Sloads
    Thogard wrote: »
    Bfish22090 wrote: »
    smiting DB. was gonna say sloads but DB will probably never be addressed

    I originally had mag sorc separated out into two categories.. mag Sorc - rune cage, and mag sorc - shield stacking.

    I’m glad I condensed them to make room for DBoS. It wasn’t on the poll list last time, but it does get a TON of use.

    But is it OP? Now that I’m back on Stam DK I’m blissfully content to use leap. Totally sick of using DBoS and if Stamplar or Stam sorc had an alternative, viable class ult I’d absolutely use those. I wouldn’t say it’s OP there’s just not other choice.
  • Kartalin
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    Sloads
    Thogard wrote: »
    Kartalin wrote: »
    Siege, specifically scattershots and meatbags, in no CP campaigns

    Prepare to bend over and assume the position next update, CP players.

    I’m specifically saving siege for the next iteration of this poll, when the PTS changes go live, making siege strong in CP PvP too.
    Good. It’s horrible right now in no cp. Already we fight outnumbered but now constantly moving through siege dots too.

    WTB siege that can only be set up within a certain radius of keeps and outposts. None open field, none at resources.
    • PC/NA
    • Karllotta, AD Magplar, AR 50
    • Hatched-In-Glacier, DC Magden, AR 44
    • Miraliys, EP Warden, AR 35
    • Kartalin, AD Stamblade, AR 35
    • Miralys, AD Magsorc, AR 35
    • Milthalas, EP Magblade, AR 35
    • Kallenna, AD Magcro, AR 34
    • Lyranais, EP Magsorc, AR 33
    • Lemon Party - Meanest Girls - @ Kartalin - Youtube
  • BohnT
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    Why ask the question what's most op when everything on the list above needs to be tuned down or rebalanced in order to reach better balance.
    I mean the idea of balancing them one by one is great and will have balance as a result after a long time but with 30 min brainstorming a hamster could find reasonable changes to balance most of those things.
    Edited by BohnT on July 13, 2018 10:03PM
  • Ampnode
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    Master DW Bleeds
    The only one who thinks so? Oh well :|

    My other votes:
    - Rune Cage
    - Durok's Bane
    PC NA - CP640+

    Characters:
    Amp - Magicka Nightblade
    Amp - Magicka Sorcerer
    Amp - Magicka Templar
    Amp - Stamina Dragonknight
    Amp - Stamina Templar
    Amp - Magicka Dragonknight
    Amp - Stamina Sorcerer
    Amp - Stamina Nightblade
  • del9
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    Sloads
    Acknowledging skills like rune cage and incap are OP, my vote goes for Sloads and speaks for several procs right now. It is harder to adapt to a broken tool available to every class, not just the few.


    Good list of what is performing best at present, I am curious if anyone would vote for Time Stop if it were up there.
    PCNA

  • thankyourat
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    What's broken is the fact that I can use most of that in one build what's stopping me from being a Stam warden using sloads/ duroks/ earthgore/ master duel weild with resource poisons and dbos with spin2win
  • del9
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    Sloads
    Also would like to point out that Sload’s and Rune Cage have dropped my last patch’s vote of Stamblades down the list. Without much changing in the class internally they’ve become relatively weaker.
    PCNA

  • Master_Kas
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    Sloads
    One sload to rule them all :trollface:
    EU | PC
  • Thunderknuckles
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    Master DW Bleeds
    Copious amounts of bleed damage appears on nearly every single one of my recaps. I hardly see Sload's in Vivec. Bleeds, though, are routine.
  • Skoomah
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    This poll is not helpful. If we keep on getting stuff nerfed. There’s going to be no fun left in the game.

    NERF THOGARD!
    Edited by Skoomah on July 13, 2018 10:47PM
  • Zeytio
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    Sloads
    sloads "nerf" still makes it the meta... smh and i will say the 20% damage buff from incap should have been the thing taken away, the stun isn't the op part :(
    [PC/NA] - Zeytio

    just some magicka nightblade on pc/na

    Twitch - https://www.twitch.tv/zeytio
    Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/zeytio
  • Amdar_Godkiller
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    Mag Sorc
    34% of the game population is apparently Nightblades...

    Mag Sorc doesn't need any CCs, let alone a long range high damege unblockable undodgable delayed one

    Overload should be about 25% of its current strength and it should cost all of your ultimate to revert out of it.
  • Amdar_Godkiller
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    Mag Sorc
    What's broken is the fact that I can use most of that in one build what's stopping me from being a Stam warden using sloads/ duroks/ earthgore/ master duel weild with resource poisons and dbos with spin2win

    self respect?
  • RighteousBacon
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    Mag Sorc

    Overload should be about 25% of its current strength and it should cost all of your ultimate to revert out of it.

    No...overload being a third bar is unique to sorcs, please don’t take that away
  • RighteousBacon
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    Mag Sorc
    Mag sorc = rune cage

    Without rune cage I think mag sorc is balanced
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