remilafo wrote: »

it hasn't happened since launch, so it probably won't ever happen.

too much work, too much re-balance.

If it does ever happen, i want 7 skill 1 ultimate.

This one tried to tie an dagger to end of her tail, it did not work.

I would definitely like to see an extra skill button added... but one for a passive skill only. (Basically the ones that are put on your bar for their passive ability and not their actual skill use).

That would open up a slot to be used for either another dps skill, or to slot a shield, which may allow people with less skill to actually have a chance against those who will always be better at the game, whether it be in PVP or PVE.

technohic wrote: »

Nope. Like it as is. Maybe give an ultimate that makes both bars a single bar but I generally like 12 rather than the bloated bars I have had in other MMOs.

you don't have to utilize the new bars if they are too complicated for you

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

testd4n1 wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

runagate wrote: »

The reason there's the number of skill slots we have access to is due to them wanting ESO to be on consoles.

Consoles use controllers with a finite number of buttons.

I wish it weren't the case but there it is.

Supposedly new console players dont have the skill level we had back in the 90s and cannot press two buttons at the same time. Thats how we got around limited buttons. Or combo buttons for combos.

Please see below and tell me how you would fit more abilities here. Literally the only thing missing would be a HOLD Start+Select option...

Turn one of the shoulder buttons, or both, into "hold to shift" buttons and suddenly you get a whole new action option for ANY button on the gamepad that can be pressed at the same time.
It works great for DC Universe Online. I would definitely like that sort of skill swapping rather than the badly designed weapon swapping we have here to do the same.

LB is already a SHIFT key when held down. LB+RB is used for your ultimate but I have a bunch of other stuff mapped as well like LB+X to mount so I can mount while moving and LB+R3 so I can sheathe/unsheath while moving.

This isn't aimed at you @Mystrius_Archaion but:

Anyone who says a controller is limited because of buttons is just woefully uninformed. I raid and PVP in SWTOR with a controller with over 30 different abilities just fine thanks to XPadder and that game is tab target. Learning a button combo is no different than learning which key to press. The hard part is setting it up to figure out which combos feel natural depending on the game and that wouldn't be an issue for the average gamer if the devs had already done the work.

The only thing KB+M has over controllers is precision aiming but even then, a crackshot with a controller is still better than the average mouse user. You have to learn the drift of the stick so as you slow down to line up the shot, you know where the reticle is going to be before it gets there.

If you told me I had to play ESO with KB+M, I would feel completely gimped. Whatever input device you feel more comfortable with is the one you should be using.

As for 1 more ability slot, I don't see why not in theory but it would throw every build into chaos and there would have to be massive balance changes for classes that don't have so many great abilities or can't use them (stamina builds) compared to those that do but I also think 10 + 2 Ultis is plenty for an action combat game.

GW2 only has 10 weapon abilities slotted at one time but each weapon does different things depending on if it's main hand or off hand and which class you are; and if you're an elementalist you can multiply that by 4 for each elemental stance and because almost every ability has a situational use, you're expected to carry all the weapons your class can use and open your inventory to equip an unequip in the middle of fractals (dungeons) to skip trash, stack might or completely change your build (which you can do for free on the fly) depending on which boss you're fighting. It's so convoluted and clunky and completely mind boggling for a new player.

Sometimes, you just want to a game to be plug and play and having access to a thousand abilities at once isn't fun. So one more... sure but let's not get carried away.

Careful, with ZOS's track record... The game might just explode if they did that.

idk wrote: »

runagate wrote: »

The reason there's the number of skill slots we have access to is due to them wanting ESO to be on consoles.

Consoles use controllers with a finite number of buttons.

I wish it weren't the case but there it is.

It does come down to consoles. However, we have done fine for 4+ years as it is.

No, it doesn't. It's been explained, repeatedly I might add, why this simply isn't true. Stop blaming consoles because zos is too lazy to do what a number of other games have figured out.

Totally not needed .. the 5 skills are fine ..

runagate wrote: »

The reason there's the number of skill slots we have access to is due to them wanting ESO to be on consoles.

Consoles use controllers with a finite number of buttons.

I wish it weren't the case but there it is.

Then console doesn't get extra slots, or any other improvement that doesn't work with their limitations.
They made the choice to play on that system; PC shouldn't be held back for them.

I'd like to see them add a single button for buffs that stays up on both bars like ultimate.

So this is a dicey post but I think should fly as it is on topic, but if a mod kills it I understand ...

If you are a console player (XBox available for sure) it is worthwhile to install Tera MMOPRG and take a look at another approach. Straight off it is an older, more arcade version of ESO. I definitely prefer overall ESO in every category that counts. I don't even have Tera installed or play it. I did mess with it for a weekend awhile back.

BUT, and this is personal opinion, it is worth spending some hours toying with it for 2 reasons:

1) Getting a feel for another approach to a combat system that seems overall pretty nice. A lot good be learned here, though I'm sure the ESO folks are familiar with it.
2) It does a really decent job of supporting 3 bars of skills (or more!!) on console controllers.

As I said, I much, much prefer ESO overall, BUT if you want to a slick combat system (which many will like, many dislike) and how they figured out how to do 3+ bars of skills on a console, it is worth taking a look at it.

In every other category ESO is substantially better IMHO.

Sibenice wrote: »

runagate wrote: »

The reason there's the number of skill slots we have access to is due to them wanting ESO to be on consoles.

Consoles use controllers with a finite number of buttons.

I wish it weren't the case but there it is.

Nope, no excuse because of consoles.

FFXIV runs on PlayStation and PC and some of the classes have upwards of 25 buttons in normal combat scenarios yet somehow Square was able to have this work on PlayStation. Also, PC and PS play together so if this were an issue it'd be noticeable.

You are not playing FFXIV, do you ? The game has a radically different combat system with a longer GCD (2.5 sec) which allows these button scenarios to feasible. I really wouldn't want to use the toggle system in ESO's combat system.