People in groups harassing me (Reported them)
WarMasterCyp
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So I noticed overall the ESO community is friendly but there are some bad apples that I noticed group up with friends and harass others. This happened to me today when I queued for a dungeon and this guy had a role of tank but was clearly a DPS build.
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
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kongkim✭✭✭✭✭Make a reporting system like some moba games where if they get too many of the same reports from different people they get a penalty. Locket out from group finder. or a short ban or something.Edited by kongkim on July 13, 2018 7:48PM0 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sorry about that. Unfortunately it's a reality in ESO (and almost any other MMO for that matter).
Best advice as above. Just ignore it and enjoy the game. As you noted, there are a lot of great people in the Community.3 -
Sibenice✭✭✭✭Out of curiosity. Was this question posed before you guys started doing things in the dungeon or did you wait to see if it wasn't going to work? Was this a normal or vet dungeon? A 1,2 or DLC dungeon?
"Becoming toxic" is not excusable no matter what. But considering how easy most normal dungeons are it's not unreasonable to tank them in near full dps getup when your'e higher CP. I know I've done it as pet sorc just fine. And since he was with his friends it's also not unreasonable to assume that they were fine with expecting to get through with the dungeon like this.
Basically I'm wondering, because it's not clear from your post, whether you waited to see if this guy was actually unable to tank the dungeon before telling him so.3 -
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✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »So I noticed overall the ESO community is friendly but there are some bad apples that I noticed group up with friends and harass others. This happened to me today when I queued for a dungeon and this guy had a role of tank but was clearly a DPS build.
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
Im a little confused here. Though I completely understand the frustration of having to deal with someone who queues a different role for their own convenience with a total disregard for others (especially if it is some of these DLC vet dungeons), what I dont get is that you seem a bit surprised at the response?
What else would you expect but toxicity when you confront someone about something they had done wrong? You didnt really think they would agree, apologize, beg forgiveness and offer you gold for restitution did you?
If youre going to confront someone, I think you should expect a level of toxicity, and be prepared to dish it back or ignore it.
Or otherwise, keep silent and see how it goes. If it becomes apparent that the dungeon is not doable with this formation, then you can always leave group.
One way or the other I would handle it depending on my mood, but I never report people. There would have to be some type of serious **** happening for me to even consider it, but Ive been here from the beginning and Ive yet to run across it.
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griffkhalifa✭✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »So I noticed overall the ESO community is friendly but there are some bad apples that I noticed group up with friends and harass others. This happened to me today when I queued for a dungeon and this guy had a role of tank but was clearly a DPS build.
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
Was this a normal dungeon or vet? People need to start clarifying when they're talking about people queuing for the wrong roles; for normal non-dlc dungeons it's 10x quicker to run with 3 DPS.
If this was vet content then I agree with you, though.PS4 NA2 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The easiest way to deal with this situation before it even becomes a situation is to stop confronting people you don't know. If they are a group of friends and you don't like the way they are running a dungeon, leave the group. No need to say a word to them. You escalated the situation and got the expected result.
(And bad language is not harassment, toxic, or necessarily wrong. If you cannot handle bad language you should probably not be playing an online game or go anywhere near the internet)Edited by jaws343 on July 13, 2018 7:09PM7 -
Malthorne✭✭✭✭✭
✭There is no excuse for people to be toxic but you could also recognize that randoms aren't always going to conform to the standards you set for them. If you choose to pug I think it’s a good idea to lower your expectations and take the good with the bad. Learn to laugh the bad things off and go with what you’ve got because, in my experience, it usually works out in the end. If you can’t do that just leave the group or go find a premade.0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Insult them back (without violating the ToS) then block.Edited by MLGProPlayer on July 13, 2018 7:51PM0 -
WarMasterCyp✭✭✭griffkhalifa wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »So I noticed overall the ESO community is friendly but there are some bad apples that I noticed group up with friends and harass others. This happened to me today when I queued for a dungeon and this guy had a role of tank but was clearly a DPS build.
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
Was this a normal dungeon or vet? People need to start clarifying when they're talking about people queuing for the wrong roles; for normal non-dlc dungeons it's 10x quicker to run with 3 DPS.
If this was vet content then I agree with you, though.
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WarMasterCyp✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »Insult them back (without violating the ToS) then block.
Nah i'm not gonna fall that low 1 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The easiest way to deal with this situation before it even becomes a situation is to stop confronting people you don't know. If they are a group of friends and you don't like the way they are running a dungeon, leave the group. No need to say a word to them. You escalated the situation and got the expected result.
(And bad language is not harassment, toxic, or necessarily wrong. If you cannot handle bad language you should probably not be playing an online game or go anywhere near the internet)
If they're being morons, you have the right to call them out. By using the dungeon finder, they agree to respect the 4th player. If they want to play any way they like, then they need to find a 4th friend (might be hard for folks like them though).
This is only a problem of course if they're unable to complete the content. If they're actually competent, then it doesn't matter what they queue as.
People definitely need thicker skin on the internet though. Be ready to insult people back when they get toxic. A bully will only bully you more if you're a pushover.Edited by MLGProPlayer on July 13, 2018 7:57PM0 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »griffkhalifa wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »So I noticed overall the ESO community is friendly but there are some bad apples that I noticed group up with friends and harass others. This happened to me today when I queued for a dungeon and this guy had a role of tank but was clearly a DPS build.
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
Was this a normal dungeon or vet? People need to start clarifying when they're talking about people queuing for the wrong roles; for normal non-dlc dungeons it's 10x quicker to run with 3 DPS.
If this was vet content then I agree with you, though.
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Was the DPS/tank dying repeatedly and/or not taunting? If not, why are you complaining? I “tank” normals on my damage dealer all the time with Inner Fire on my back bar. Why take a meta tank into a normal dungeon when you can take a 40k DPS character with magicka shields who never dies and keeps bosses taunted?
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WarMasterCyp✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »griffkhalifa wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »So I noticed overall the ESO community is friendly but there are some bad apples that I noticed group up with friends and harass others. This happened to me today when I queued for a dungeon and this guy had a role of tank but was clearly a DPS build.
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
Was this a normal dungeon or vet? People need to start clarifying when they're talking about people queuing for the wrong roles; for normal non-dlc dungeons it's 10x quicker to run with 3 DPS.
If this was vet content then I agree with you, though.
Normal
Was the DPS/tank dying repeatedly and/or not taunting? If not, why are you complaining? I “tank” normals on my damage dealer all the time with Inner Fire on my back bar. Why take a meta tank into a normal dungeon when you can take a 40k DPS character with magicka shields who never dies and keeps bosses taunted?
Yeah no taunting and dying over0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭griffkhalifa wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »So I noticed overall the ESO community is friendly but there are some bad apples that I noticed group up with friends and harass others. This happened to me today when I queued for a dungeon and this guy had a role of tank but was clearly a DPS build.
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
Was this a normal dungeon or vet? People need to start clarifying when they're talking about people queuing for the wrong roles; for normal non-dlc dungeons it's 10x quicker to run with 3 DPS.
If this was vet content then I agree with you, though.
Normal Dungeons only go quicker with 3 DDs if all 3 DDs know how to self heal, stack and burn, and deal with mechanics.
All it takes is one DD to get aggro, not know what to do, and run away from the boss dragging him all over the arena to make the dungeon take longer. Or a healer or DD who gets aggro and can't tank the boss in place.
With a knowledgeable group, sure 3DDs goes faster. But for a groupfinder PUG of random players, there is no guarantee.0 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »griffkhalifa wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »So I noticed overall the ESO community is friendly but there are some bad apples that I noticed group up with friends and harass others. This happened to me today when I queued for a dungeon and this guy had a role of tank but was clearly a DPS build.
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
Was this a normal dungeon or vet? People need to start clarifying when they're talking about people queuing for the wrong roles; for normal non-dlc dungeons it's 10x quicker to run with 3 DPS.
If this was vet content then I agree with you, though.
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Was the DPS/tank dying repeatedly and/or not taunting? If not, why are you complaining? I “tank” normals on my damage dealer all the time with Inner Fire on my back bar. Why take a meta tank into a normal dungeon when you can take a 40k DPS character with magicka shields who never dies and keeps bosses taunted?
Yeah no taunting and dying over
Ah. Well, that’s unfortunately a different matter entirely. Not much you can do in those situations besides leave the group or vote to kick. If the guy queued with friends, then the latter option does not work.
Toxicity is to be expected when you’re grouping with random people. Is it nice to deal with? No, but you’re not going to change the bad attitudes of other people. All you can do is politely explain why you’re leaving and ignore/report if they harass you.
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WarMasterCyp✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »griffkhalifa wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »So I noticed overall the ESO community is friendly but there are some bad apples that I noticed group up with friends and harass others. This happened to me today when I queued for a dungeon and this guy had a role of tank but was clearly a DPS build.
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
Was this a normal dungeon or vet? People need to start clarifying when they're talking about people queuing for the wrong roles; for normal non-dlc dungeons it's 10x quicker to run with 3 DPS.
If this was vet content then I agree with you, though.
Normal
Was the DPS/tank dying repeatedly and/or not taunting? If not, why are you complaining? I “tank” normals on my damage dealer all the time with Inner Fire on my back bar. Why take a meta tank into a normal dungeon when you can take a 40k DPS character with magicka shields who never dies and keeps bosses taunted?
Yeah no taunting and dying over
Ah. Well, that’s unfortunately a different matter entirely. Not much you can do in those situations besides leave the group or vote to kick. If the guy queued with friends, then the latter option does not work.
Toxicity is to be expected when you’re grouping with random people. Is it nice to deal with? No, but you’re not going to change the bad attitudes of other people. All you can do is politely explain why you’re leaving and ignore/report if they harass you.
vote to kick failed because the entire group was premade part from me and they became toxic also..0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »The easiest way to deal with this situation before it even becomes a situation is to stop confronting people you don't know. If they are a group of friends and you don't like the way they are running a dungeon, leave the group. No need to say a word to them. You escalated the situation and got the expected result.
(And bad language is not harassment, toxic, or necessarily wrong. If you cannot handle bad language you should probably not be playing an online game or go anywhere near the internet)
If they're being morons, you have the right to call them out. By using the dungeon finder, they agree to respect the 4th player. If they want to play any way they like, then they need to find a 4th friend (might be hard for folks like them though).
This is only a problem of course if they're unable to complete the content. If they're actually competent, then it doesn't matter what they queue as.
People definitely need thicker skin on the internet though. Be ready to insult people back when they get toxic. A bully will only bully you more if you're a pushover.
Sure you have the right to call them out. But you should also accept whatever consequences that come your way from doing so.
And i agree if they cannot complete the content then there is a problem. I have a 2 vote kick rule that I like to follow in dungeons. If I vote to kick a player and it fails, I'll give it one more try. If I vote to kick a player a second time and that fails I leave the group. Was with a group in vet FG2 the other day and the other DPs was trying to dps down the shades by only spamming steel tornado and refusing to do anything else. Wasn't going to happen and the group would approve the vote kick so I left and they probably never finished that dungeon. But I didn't confront the guy or tell him he was wrong or tell the group they were trash.
I have also never reported someone in this game (outside of bots). Why? Because who cares. I am an adult and I tend to not do things that would flame other players. There is zero need to confront anyone in this game or escalate any situation in this game.0 -
WarMasterCyp✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »The easiest way to deal with this situation before it even becomes a situation is to stop confronting people you don't know. If they are a group of friends and you don't like the way they are running a dungeon, leave the group. No need to say a word to them. You escalated the situation and got the expected result.
(And bad language is not harassment, toxic, or necessarily wrong. If you cannot handle bad language you should probably not be playing an online game or go anywhere near the internet)
If they're being morons, you have the right to call them out. By using the dungeon finder, they agree to respect the 4th player. If they want to play any way they like, then they need to find a 4th friend (might be hard for folks like them though).
This is only a problem of course if they're unable to complete the content. If they're actually competent, then it doesn't matter what they queue as.
People definitely need thicker skin on the internet though. Be ready to insult people back when they get toxic. A bully will only bully you more if you're a pushover.
Sure you have the right to call them out. But you should also accept whatever consequences that come your way from doing so.
And i agree if they cannot complete the content then there is a problem. I have a 2 vote kick rule that I like to follow in dungeons. If I vote to kick a player and it fails, I'll give it one more try. If I vote to kick a player a second time and that fails I leave the group. Was with a group in vet FG2 the other day and the other DPs was trying to dps down the shades by only spamming steel tornado and refusing to do anything else. Wasn't going to happen and the group would approve the vote kick so I left and they probably never finished that dungeon. But I didn't confront the guy or tell him he was wrong or tell the group they were trash.
I have also never reported someone in this game (outside of bots). Why? Because who cares. I am an adult and I tend to not do things that would flame other players. There is zero need to confront anyone in this game or escalate any situation in this game.
I disagree with what you say. I didn't call them out, I did not post names or anything. Also if you ignore toxicity the game will be more toxic in the future. 1 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »griffkhalifa wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »So I noticed overall the ESO community is friendly but there are some bad apples that I noticed group up with friends and harass others. This happened to me today when I queued for a dungeon and this guy had a role of tank but was clearly a DPS build.
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
Was this a normal dungeon or vet? People need to start clarifying when they're talking about people queuing for the wrong roles; for normal non-dlc dungeons it's 10x quicker to run with 3 DPS.
If this was vet content then I agree with you, though.
Normal
Was the DPS/tank dying repeatedly and/or not taunting? If not, why are you complaining? I “tank” normals on my damage dealer all the time with Inner Fire on my back bar. Why take a meta tank into a normal dungeon when you can take a 40k DPS character with magicka shields who never dies and keeps bosses taunted?
Yeah no taunting and dying over
Ah. Well, that’s unfortunately a different matter entirely. Not much you can do in those situations besides leave the group or vote to kick. If the guy queued with friends, then the latter option does not work.
Toxicity is to be expected when you’re grouping with random people. Is it nice to deal with? No, but you’re not going to change the bad attitudes of other people. All you can do is politely explain why you’re leaving and ignore/report if they harass you.
vote to kick failed because the entire group was premade part from me and they became toxic also..
I know... As I said:Not much you can do in those situations besides leave the group or vote to kick. If the guy queued with friends, then the latter option does not work.
It sucks, but again, you’re not going to change the bad attitudes of strangers. I’m assuming you’re low level/low CP? Once you’re at CP 300 or so, you should be able to solo normal dungeons with ease. If not, you’re doing something wrong with your build. I honestly don’t even pay attention to the other people in the group when I run non-DLC normals to farm gear.
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Nightfall12✭✭✭✭✭It can get sketchy if a DD ques as a tank for a random normal because it can result in a DLC dungeon, and it shows they are gambling with others time as well, now if they can handle it where you don't even notice then they have effectively tanked. Its when they can't perform the role and others start to see a drop in their own performance because of it. PUGlife is full of risks though. When i'm on my healer I notice that a bad fake tank makes it very difficult because the boss wont stay put and somehow I end up taking the aggro and just out healing the damage....which makes me think maybe my healer is doing too much damage to get aggro in the first place from 3 DDs.....hmmmm
BUT if its a specific normal dungeon like a pledge they know ahead of time they can handle the role...still it would polite if anyone that queues as tank at least equips a taunt.Ummm stuff… about stuff…or something.1 -
WarMasterCyp✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »griffkhalifa wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »So I noticed overall the ESO community is friendly but there are some bad apples that I noticed group up with friends and harass others. This happened to me today when I queued for a dungeon and this guy had a role of tank but was clearly a DPS build.
I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works. They became toxic and their friends joined in too. I had to block them and report them for their toxic behavior as they used bad language which I will not repeat hear.
However I am not sure if reporting people actually does anything which may lead to more people become toxic in the future..
Was this a normal dungeon or vet? People need to start clarifying when they're talking about people queuing for the wrong roles; for normal non-dlc dungeons it's 10x quicker to run with 3 DPS.
If this was vet content then I agree with you, though.
Normal
Was the DPS/tank dying repeatedly and/or not taunting? If not, why are you complaining? I “tank” normals on my damage dealer all the time with Inner Fire on my back bar. Why take a meta tank into a normal dungeon when you can take a 40k DPS character with magicka shields who never dies and keeps bosses taunted?
Yeah no taunting and dying over
Ah. Well, that’s unfortunately a different matter entirely. Not much you can do in those situations besides leave the group or vote to kick. If the guy queued with friends, then the latter option does not work.
Toxicity is to be expected when you’re grouping with random people. Is it nice to deal with? No, but you’re not going to change the bad attitudes of other people. All you can do is politely explain why you’re leaving and ignore/report if they harass you.
vote to kick failed because the entire group was premade part from me and they became toxic also..
I know... As I said:Not much you can do in those situations besides leave the group or vote to kick. If the guy queued with friends, then the latter option does not work.
It sucks, but again, you’re not going to change the bad attitudes of strangers. I’m assuming you’re low level/low CP? Once you’re at CP 300 or so, you should be able to solo normal dungeons with ease. If not, you’re doing something wrong with your build. I honestly don’t even pay attention to the other people in the group when I run non-DLC normals to farm gear.
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The easiest way to deal with this situation before it even becomes a situation is to stop confronting people you don't know. If they are a group of friends and you don't like the way they are running a dungeon, leave the group. No need to say a word to them. You escalated the situation and got the expected result.
(And bad language is not harassment, toxic, or necessarily wrong. If you cannot handle bad language you should probably not be playing an online game or go anywhere near the internet)
If they're being morons, you have the right to call them out. By using the dungeon finder, they agree to respect the 4th player. If they want to play any way they like, then they need to find a 4th friend (might be hard for folks like them though).
This is only a problem of course if they're unable to complete the content. If they're actually competent, then it doesn't matter what they queue as.
People definitely need thicker skin on the internet though. Be ready to insult people back when they get toxic. A bully will only bully you more if you're a pushover.
Sure you have the right to call them out. But you should also accept whatever consequences that come your way from doing so.
And i agree if they cannot complete the content then there is a problem. I have a 2 vote kick rule that I like to follow in dungeons. If I vote to kick a player and it fails, I'll give it one more try. If I vote to kick a player a second time and that fails I leave the group. Was with a group in vet FG2 the other day and the other DPs was trying to dps down the shades by only spamming steel tornado and refusing to do anything else. Wasn't going to happen and the group would approve the vote kick so I left and they probably never finished that dungeon. But I didn't confront the guy or tell him he was wrong or tell the group they were trash.
I have also never reported someone in this game (outside of bots). Why? Because who cares. I am an adult and I tend to not do things that would flame other players. There is zero need to confront anyone in this game or escalate any situation in this game.
I disagree with what you say. I didn't call them out, I did not post names or anything. Also if you ignore toxicity the game will be more toxic in the future.
In the OP you said "I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works." That is calling them out. You told them they were doing something wrong. You didn't need to do this. You could have just left.
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WarMasterCyp✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The easiest way to deal with this situation before it even becomes a situation is to stop confronting people you don't know. If they are a group of friends and you don't like the way they are running a dungeon, leave the group. No need to say a word to them. You escalated the situation and got the expected result.
(And bad language is not harassment, toxic, or necessarily wrong. If you cannot handle bad language you should probably not be playing an online game or go anywhere near the internet)
If they're being morons, you have the right to call them out. By using the dungeon finder, they agree to respect the 4th player. If they want to play any way they like, then they need to find a 4th friend (might be hard for folks like them though).
This is only a problem of course if they're unable to complete the content. If they're actually competent, then it doesn't matter what they queue as.
People definitely need thicker skin on the internet though. Be ready to insult people back when they get toxic. A bully will only bully you more if you're a pushover.
Sure you have the right to call them out. But you should also accept whatever consequences that come your way from doing so.
And i agree if they cannot complete the content then there is a problem. I have a 2 vote kick rule that I like to follow in dungeons. If I vote to kick a player and it fails, I'll give it one more try. If I vote to kick a player a second time and that fails I leave the group. Was with a group in vet FG2 the other day and the other DPs was trying to dps down the shades by only spamming steel tornado and refusing to do anything else. Wasn't going to happen and the group would approve the vote kick so I left and they probably never finished that dungeon. But I didn't confront the guy or tell him he was wrong or tell the group they were trash.
I have also never reported someone in this game (outside of bots). Why? Because who cares. I am an adult and I tend to not do things that would flame other players. There is zero need to confront anyone in this game or escalate any situation in this game.
I disagree with what you say. I didn't call them out, I did not post names or anything. Also if you ignore toxicity the game will be more toxic in the future.
In the OP you said "I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works." That is calling them out. You told them they were doing something wrong. You didn't need to do this. You could have just left.
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✭✭✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The easiest way to deal with this situation before it even becomes a situation is to stop confronting people you don't know. If they are a group of friends and you don't like the way they are running a dungeon, leave the group. No need to say a word to them. You escalated the situation and got the expected result.
(And bad language is not harassment, toxic, or necessarily wrong. If you cannot handle bad language you should probably not be playing an online game or go anywhere near the internet)
If they're being morons, you have the right to call them out. By using the dungeon finder, they agree to respect the 4th player. If they want to play any way they like, then they need to find a 4th friend (might be hard for folks like them though).
This is only a problem of course if they're unable to complete the content. If they're actually competent, then it doesn't matter what they queue as.
People definitely need thicker skin on the internet though. Be ready to insult people back when they get toxic. A bully will only bully you more if you're a pushover.
Sure you have the right to call them out. But you should also accept whatever consequences that come your way from doing so.
And i agree if they cannot complete the content then there is a problem. I have a 2 vote kick rule that I like to follow in dungeons. If I vote to kick a player and it fails, I'll give it one more try. If I vote to kick a player a second time and that fails I leave the group. Was with a group in vet FG2 the other day and the other DPs was trying to dps down the shades by only spamming steel tornado and refusing to do anything else. Wasn't going to happen and the group would approve the vote kick so I left and they probably never finished that dungeon. But I didn't confront the guy or tell him he was wrong or tell the group they were trash.
I have also never reported someone in this game (outside of bots). Why? Because who cares. I am an adult and I tend to not do things that would flame other players. There is zero need to confront anyone in this game or escalate any situation in this game.
I disagree with what you say. I didn't call them out, I did not post names or anything. Also if you ignore toxicity the game will be more toxic in the future.
In the OP you said "I told them that they shouldn't queue for a role they are not building for because that isn't how the group system works." That is calling them out. You told them they were doing something wrong. You didn't need to do this. You could have just left.
See, if they are a fake tank and my healer is consistently getting boss aggro when I'm clearly not taunting, I will usually say something like "Tank, would you like to use a taunt?"
I main a tank. I know when someone is running a fake tank.
On a nornal dungeon, I'll bear with it because my healer can tank the boss in place and still heal as long as the other DDs aren't stupid squishy. But I'm not going to let the fake tank pretend that they are adequate as a tank when they are making extra work for my healer at the very least. If they don't appreciated me calling then out, maybe they should have queued for the role they actually intended to fill and I'd have no problems with them. Or they could take the hint and actually slot a taunt and I'd have no problem with them.2 -
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✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The easiest way to deal with this situation before it even becomes a situation is to stop confronting people you don't know. If they are a group of friends and you don't like the way they are running a dungeon, leave the group. No need to say a word to them. You escalated the situation and got the expected result.
(And bad language is not harassment, toxic, or necessarily wrong. If you cannot handle bad language you should probably not be playing an online game or go anywhere near the internet)
If they're being morons, you have the right to call them out. By using the dungeon finder, they agree to respect the 4th player. If they want to play any way they like, then they need to find a 4th friend (might be hard for folks like them though).
This is only a problem of course if they're unable to complete the content. If they're actually competent, then it doesn't matter what they queue as.
People definitely need thicker skin on the internet though. Be ready to insult people back when they get toxic. A bully will only bully you more if you're a pushover.
Sure you have the right to call them out. But you should also accept whatever consequences that come your way from doing so.
And i agree if they cannot complete the content then there is a problem. I have a 2 vote kick rule that I like to follow in dungeons. If I vote to kick a player and it fails, I'll give it one more try. If I vote to kick a player a second time and that fails I leave the group. Was with a group in vet FG2 the other day and the other DPs was trying to dps down the shades by only spamming steel tornado and refusing to do anything else. Wasn't going to happen and the group would approve the vote kick so I left and they probably never finished that dungeon. But I didn't confront the guy or tell him he was wrong or tell the group they were trash.
I have also never reported someone in this game (outside of bots). Why? Because who cares. I am an adult and I tend to not do things that would flame other players. There is zero need to confront anyone in this game or escalate any situation in this game.
I disagree with what you say. I didn't call them out, I did not post names or anything. Also if you ignore toxicity the game will be more toxic in the future.
The definition of "toxic" within the context of this conversation is subjective. I wouldn't consider bad language alone to be toxic. Some of the nicest people that I know sound like they probably auditioned, and were at least considered, for roles in "Boondock Saints."
I believe that it would be a violation of the ToS to name and shame. The "calling them out" comment was most likely refering to doing so in the group.
It's virtually impossible to give a well informed opinion with so few details, however, be mindful of the rent you charge for the space in your head.0
