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I think the buff to Radiant Destruction really shows that they seem to not understand what the issue with Templar DPS is. Thanks for buffing a skill that is mechanically ill suited for the current meta, I guess.
Just curious, do you play a magplar? You basically have to sustain a light attack rotation for decent (not even great dps). No heavy attacks here, NONE, or dps is in the tank. Only magicka recovery for magplar is channeled focus, and sustain is already only average at best. So when that skill’s cost increases 80+% and doesn’t last as long, it is a concern. Not the end if the world, but concerning. We’re just advocating for our toons, man. : )DuskMarine wrote: »templars just fine jeese you guys flip when the games finally changing for the better why do people ask for balance but they never want the changes?
Just curious, do you play a magplar? You basically have to sustain a light attack rotation for decent (not even great dps). No heavy attacks here, NONE, or dps is in the tank. Only magicka recovery for magplar is channeled focus, and sustain is already only average at best. So when that skill’s cost increases 80+% and doesn’t last as long, it is a concern. Not the end if the world, but concerning. We’re just advocating for our toons, man. : )DuskMarine wrote: »templars just fine jeese you guys flip when the games finally changing for the better why do people ask for balance but they never want the changes?
Just curious, do you play a magplar? You basically have to sustain a light attack rotation for decent (not even great dps). No heavy attacks here, NONE, or dps is in the tank. Only magicka recovery for magplar is channeled focus, and sustain is already only average at best. So when that skill’s cost increases 80+% and doesn’t last as long, it is a concern. Not the end if the world, but concerning. We’re just advocating for our toons, man. : )DuskMarine wrote: »templars just fine jeese you guys flip when the games finally changing for the better why do people ask for balance but they never want the changes?
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »THE CHANNELED FOCUS NERF IS A BAD CHANGE.
DO SOMETHING TO OFFSET THE DAMAGE OR REVERSE THE CHANGE.
RUNE FOCUS DIDN'T NEED CHANGED. STOP FIDDLING WITH IT.
DuskMarine wrote: »Just curious, do you play a magplar? You basically have to sustain a light attack rotation for decent (not even great dps). No heavy attacks here, NONE, or dps is in the tank. Only magicka recovery for magplar is channeled focus, and sustain is already only average at best. So when that skill’s cost increases 80+% and doesn’t last as long, it is a concern. Not the end if the world, but concerning. We’re just advocating for our toons, man. : )DuskMarine wrote: »templars just fine jeese you guys flip when the games finally changing for the better why do people ask for balance but they never want the changes?
i play magplar and find it just fine. its just your rotation that you choose. most templar litterally waste resources. but their also not meant for solo their meant for group play.
DuskMarine wrote: »Just curious, do you play a magplar? You basically have to sustain a light attack rotation for decent (not even great dps). No heavy attacks here, NONE, or dps is in the tank. Only magicka recovery for magplar is channeled focus, and sustain is already only average at best. So when that skill’s cost increases 80+% and doesn’t last as long, it is a concern. Not the end if the world, but concerning. We’re just advocating for our toons, man. : )DuskMarine wrote: »templars just fine jeese you guys flip when the games finally changing for the better why do people ask for balance but they never want the changes?
i play magplar and find it just fine. its just your rotation that you choose. most templar litterally waste resources. but their also not meant for solo their meant for group play.
I’m not sure what you mean by magplars wasting resources, but ya, I’m referring to magplar dps, not really a support role, unless you count throwing shards to the tank-which is often appreciated. I’m talking about getting the maximum dps and trying to do endgame content. In a dps role, we’re better, but still a bit behind the curve, and need all the magicka and sustain we can get.
DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Just curious, do you play a magplar? You basically have to sustain a light attack rotation for decent (not even great dps). No heavy attacks here, NONE, or dps is in the tank. Only magicka recovery for magplar is channeled focus, and sustain is already only average at best. So when that skill’s cost increases 80+% and doesn’t last as long, it is a concern. Not the end if the world, but concerning. We’re just advocating for our toons, man. : )DuskMarine wrote: »templars just fine jeese you guys flip when the games finally changing for the better why do people ask for balance but they never want the changes?
i play magplar and find it just fine. its just your rotation that you choose. most templar litterally waste resources. but their also not meant for solo their meant for group play.
I’m not sure what you mean by magplars wasting resources, but ya, I’m referring to magplar dps, not really a support role, unless you count throwing shards to the tank-which is often appreciated. I’m talking about getting the maximum dps and trying to do endgame content. In a dps role, we’re better, but still a bit behind the curve, and need all the magicka and sustain we can get.
yea im talkin about dps but your not meant to actually do it solo as your lacking certain buffs.
DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »THE CHANNELED FOCUS NERF IS A BAD CHANGE.
DO SOMETHING TO OFFSET THE DAMAGE OR REVERSE THE CHANGE.
RUNE FOCUS DIDN'T NEED CHANGED. STOP FIDDLING WITH IT.
your against everything that makes sense change wise arent you?
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »THE CHANNELED FOCUS NERF IS A BAD CHANGE.
DO SOMETHING TO OFFSET THE DAMAGE OR REVERSE THE CHANGE.
RUNE FOCUS DIDN'T NEED CHANGED. STOP FIDDLING WITH IT.
your against everything that makes sense change wise arent you?
Except it dont.
Okay. You wanted templar to have mobility. You still had a stamina based, armor up that even gave CC immunity. And it lasted just as long. Or you would if you used heavy armor, but god forbid we apparently make a choice between armor and damage.
It wouldn't be nearly as bad if it wasn''t one of Templar's only sustain tools. But most people dont care about that because it's a stamplar-pvp change.
It's not like it's hard to compensate for, or even hard to fix. It's just the same crap we've been dealing with for ages now, PVE nerfed for PVP's sake.
DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »THE CHANNELED FOCUS NERF IS A BAD CHANGE.
DO SOMETHING TO OFFSET THE DAMAGE OR REVERSE THE CHANGE.
RUNE FOCUS DIDN'T NEED CHANGED. STOP FIDDLING WITH IT.
your against everything that makes sense change wise arent you?
Except it dont.
Okay. You wanted templar to have mobility. You still had a stamina based, armor up that even gave CC immunity. And it lasted just as long. Or you would if you used heavy armor, but god forbid we apparently make a choice between armor and damage.
It wouldn't be nearly as bad if it wasn''t one of Templar's only sustain tools. But most people dont care about that because it's a stamplar-pvp change.
It's not like it's hard to compensate for, or even hard to fix. It's just the same crap we've been dealing with for ages now, PVE nerfed for PVP's sake.
one ive never used focus at all and sustained just fine before. two templars are meant for group play not solo play even gilliamtherogue said that when he did his how to basic magplar. you think its a nerf when its really not that big a deal
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »THE CHANNELED FOCUS NERF IS A BAD CHANGE.
DO SOMETHING TO OFFSET THE DAMAGE OR REVERSE THE CHANGE.
RUNE FOCUS DIDN'T NEED CHANGED. STOP FIDDLING WITH IT.
your against everything that makes sense change wise arent you?
Except it dont.
Okay. You wanted templar to have mobility. You still had a stamina based, armor up that even gave CC immunity. And it lasted just as long. Or you would if you used heavy armor, but god forbid we apparently make a choice between armor and damage.
It wouldn't be nearly as bad if it wasn''t one of Templar's only sustain tools. But most people dont care about that because it's a stamplar-pvp change.
It's not like it's hard to compensate for, or even hard to fix. It's just the same crap we've been dealing with for ages now, PVE nerfed for PVP's sake.
one ive never used focus at all and sustained just fine before. two templars are meant for group play not solo play even gilliamtherogue said that when he did his how to basic magplar. you think its a nerf when its really not that big a deal
"Templars are not ment for solo play because gilliam the rogue said so".
And here's what I like to call 'meta bible thumping'.
It's still a nerf, it's still dumb, it's still easily fixable, and they just wont. Come back when you can argue a point without invoking the name of a messiah or other apostles, please.
But again, I'll say it. I'm not opposed to the change because I think it's game-breaking. It's just the same stupid practice ZOS keeps doing, and they need to learn to stop doing it. When a character is weak in an area, you give them an unconditional buff, not a conditional one.
DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »THE CHANNELED FOCUS NERF IS A BAD CHANGE.
DO SOMETHING TO OFFSET THE DAMAGE OR REVERSE THE CHANGE.
RUNE FOCUS DIDN'T NEED CHANGED. STOP FIDDLING WITH IT.
your against everything that makes sense change wise arent you?
Except it dont.
Okay. You wanted templar to have mobility. You still had a stamina based, armor up that even gave CC immunity. And it lasted just as long. Or you would if you used heavy armor, but god forbid we apparently make a choice between armor and damage.
It wouldn't be nearly as bad if it wasn''t one of Templar's only sustain tools. But most people dont care about that because it's a stamplar-pvp change.
It's not like it's hard to compensate for, or even hard to fix. It's just the same crap we've been dealing with for ages now, PVE nerfed for PVP's sake.
one ive never used focus at all and sustained just fine before. two templars are meant for group play not solo play even gilliamtherogue said that when he did his how to basic magplar. you think its a nerf when its really not that big a deal
DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »THE CHANNELED FOCUS NERF IS A BAD CHANGE.
DO SOMETHING TO OFFSET THE DAMAGE OR REVERSE THE CHANGE.
RUNE FOCUS DIDN'T NEED CHANGED. STOP FIDDLING WITH IT.
your against everything that makes sense change wise arent you?
Except it dont.
Okay. You wanted templar to have mobility. You still had a stamina based, armor up that even gave CC immunity. And it lasted just as long. Or you would if you used heavy armor, but god forbid we apparently make a choice between armor and damage.
It wouldn't be nearly as bad if it wasn''t one of Templar's only sustain tools. But most people dont care about that because it's a stamplar-pvp change.
It's not like it's hard to compensate for, or even hard to fix. It's just the same crap we've been dealing with for ages now, PVE nerfed for PVP's sake.
one ive never used focus at all and sustained just fine before. two templars are meant for group play not solo play even gilliamtherogue said that when he did his how to basic magplar. you think its a nerf when its really not that big a deal
"Templars are not ment for solo play because gilliam the rogue said so".
And here's what I like to call 'meta bible thumping'.
It's still a nerf, it's still dumb, it's still easily fixable, and they just wont. Come back when you can argue a point without invoking the name of a messiah or other apostles, please.
But again, I'll say it. I'm not opposed to the change because I think it's game-breaking. It's just the same stupid practice ZOS keeps doing, and they need to learn to stop doing it. When a character is weak in an area, you give them an unconditional buff, not a conditional one.
the funny part is its not because he said so, in fact he actually showed it on the video templar lacks dps buffs that it needs. and its better suited(and this is personally tested) in group situations for dps. this class easily can pull 25k dps(which is good enough for endgame hardmode trials as a dps always has been can pull 30k easily) so really your fighting video proof and tested proof amoung very many people.
DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »THE CHANNELED FOCUS NERF IS A BAD CHANGE.
DO SOMETHING TO OFFSET THE DAMAGE OR REVERSE THE CHANGE.
RUNE FOCUS DIDN'T NEED CHANGED. STOP FIDDLING WITH IT.
your against everything that makes sense change wise arent you?
Except it dont.
Okay. You wanted templar to have mobility. You still had a stamina based, armor up that even gave CC immunity. And it lasted just as long. Or you would if you used heavy armor, but god forbid we apparently make a choice between armor and damage.
It wouldn't be nearly as bad if it wasn''t one of Templar's only sustain tools. But most people dont care about that because it's a stamplar-pvp change.
It's not like it's hard to compensate for, or even hard to fix. It's just the same crap we've been dealing with for ages now, PVE nerfed for PVP's sake.
one ive never used focus at all and sustained just fine before. two templars are meant for group play not solo play even gilliamtherogue said that when he did his how to basic magplar. you think its a nerf when its really not that big a deal
"Templars are not ment for solo play because gilliam the rogue said so".
And here's what I like to call 'meta bible thumping'.
It's still a nerf, it's still dumb, it's still easily fixable, and they just wont. Come back when you can argue a point without invoking the name of a messiah or other apostles, please.
But again, I'll say it. I'm not opposed to the change because I think it's game-breaking. It's just the same stupid practice ZOS keeps doing, and they need to learn to stop doing it. When a character is weak in an area, you give them an unconditional buff, not a conditional one.
the funny part is its not because he said so, in fact he actually showed it on the video templar lacks dps buffs that it needs. and its better suited(and this is personally tested) in group situations for dps. this class easily can pull 25k dps(which is good enough for endgame hardmode trials as a dps always has been can pull 30k easily) so really your fighting video proof and tested proof amoung very many people.
DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »THE CHANNELED FOCUS NERF IS A BAD CHANGE.
DO SOMETHING TO OFFSET THE DAMAGE OR REVERSE THE CHANGE.
RUNE FOCUS DIDN'T NEED CHANGED. STOP FIDDLING WITH IT.
your against everything that makes sense change wise arent you?
Except it dont.
Okay. You wanted templar to have mobility. You still had a stamina based, armor up that even gave CC immunity. And it lasted just as long. Or you would if you used heavy armor, but god forbid we apparently make a choice between armor and damage.
It wouldn't be nearly as bad if it wasn''t one of Templar's only sustain tools. But most people dont care about that because it's a stamplar-pvp change.
It's not like it's hard to compensate for, or even hard to fix. It's just the same crap we've been dealing with for ages now, PVE nerfed for PVP's sake.
one ive never used focus at all and sustained just fine before. two templars are meant for group play not solo play even gilliamtherogue said that when he did his how to basic magplar. you think its a nerf when its really not that big a deal
"Templars are not ment for solo play because gilliam the rogue said so".
And here's what I like to call 'meta bible thumping'.
It's still a nerf, it's still dumb, it's still easily fixable, and they just wont. Come back when you can argue a point without invoking the name of a messiah or other apostles, please.
But again, I'll say it. I'm not opposed to the change because I think it's game-breaking. It's just the same stupid practice ZOS keeps doing, and they need to learn to stop doing it. When a character is weak in an area, you give them an unconditional buff, not a conditional one.
the funny part is its not because he said so, in fact he actually showed it on the video templar lacks dps buffs that it needs. and its better suited(and this is personally tested) in group situations for dps. this class easily can pull 25k dps(which is good enough for endgame hardmode trials as a dps always has been can pull 30k easily) so really your fighting video proof and tested proof amoung very many people.
What's a Templar? There used to be a class called that but everyone told me it was dead with Morrowind and wouldn't be in the game any more, are you telling me that didn't happen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZxFVvCiXUI really wonder lately why I still play this game. I have as little respect for the combat team as they clearly have for Templars.