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Thank you Zenimax, for Being Bolder and more Open

Avran_Sylt
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You've furthered opened discourse with the community, listened, and provided some changes based on what you've heard (limited by time, of course).

In recent patches implemented more... Unique sets, and have gone back and re-balanced/changed mechanics in the game. Either for QoL purposes, to make them more user friendly, or simply because they've been bugged.

While some on this forum have knee-jerk responses about how the world is ending, others are patient, and willing to see what these changes bring about (for better or worse), before formulating their opinion.

Hope the negativity doesn't get to ya, and you take into consideration feedback that's more thought out, with a basis on actual in-game tests.
  • Gnozo
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    Are you hoping for free stuff from crown Store?
  • Avran_Sylt
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    Gnozo wrote: »
    Are you hoping for free stuff from crown Store?

    No, but the general sense of negativity currently on the forums doesn't seem like a good work environment.
  • ChunkyCat
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    As a stam sorc dot build for BGs, I’m over here like “what’s everyone complaining about?”

    :trollface:
  • DarcyMardin
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    I’m happy about quite a few things in the pts patch notes. But I sure do wish my favorite magicka warden (PVE) would get a buff one of these days!
  • JohnOfMarkarth
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    hmm peraps it may not seem to be... but they dont tell us anythin... but tell us they listen... yet when they release summit to prove they have listened, they just show that, peraps they have not listened at all.

    peraps they are scared tae make bigger changes tho...
    this is what the community (mostly, if not nearly entirely because of the pvp one, specifically... cause the pvper scream the most and the loudest about the slightest petty whines they have) brought upon themselves...
    as i can understand that zeni does not want to move big *** knowing it will backlash so badly whatever they do, anymore.
    not after the last thing they did.

    both sides have a point... but i believe both sides have a bit wring approach



    i just want to see magicka wardens be ... something...

    Sincerely, a Reachman
    I can't do this anymore. Every small ... petit change that went against any semblance of sense has snowballed into an avalanche of (Penn & Teller:) Bulls...!

    Gods, bless me with patience.
  • Gnozo
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    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    Gnozo wrote: »
    Are you hoping for free stuff from crown Store?

    No, but the general sense of negativity currently on the forums doesn't seem like a good work environment.

    You know why we are negative? We are constantly giving feedback to them. Collecting major issues from the game and telling them to work on them. They dont to *** about it. Just mentioning a few points:


    Lag in Cyro: Nothing, completly silent. And still no fix

    Defile meta: No fix, only decreased duration while sets like duroks still maintain 100% uptime. Befoul cp is the Problem, not the duration.

    Sloads: Still stackable, main complain point.

    Warden Class CC: Nothing.

    Templar sustain: Now even worse.

    Snipe health desync: Still not fixed

    Rune cage CC: Broken like hell, what they do? Reduce dmg by 20%. Clunky CC is the Problem, not the damage.

    These are only a few points we told them 100000 times. And nothing changed the way the players want it to change. Little to 0 communication from the devs why they did certain things and whats the Intention behind sets like sloads or the current state of the Latency Problems in Cyrodiil.

    Sure some patch Notes were good but most of them are not what we are asking for. Class reps did a really good job about collecting pain points. Less then 5% got adressed with current patch.

    Thats why we are not Happy. We expected waaaaaay more
  • Avran_Sylt
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    @Gnozo

    Interesting. But, it should be noted that while not everything was addressed, some of it was.

    The community should attempt to positively reinforce what was addressed. I'm not saying that your disappointment about the other issues shouldn't be noted (negatively reinforce something we don't like), but only providing negative reinforcement in a specific area only serves to shut down any changes at all.

    The grievances you've listed are quite insightful as to what it is the community still has a problem with, but at the same time the feedback you provide completely ignores any of the 'good' changes. Understandably, my post itself does the opposite, only praising without any reprimands.

    The sentiment shouldn't be: "We expected waaaaay more" or "You're doing a great job!", but more of: "We appreciate what you've done, but are disappointed about certain aspects of the focus and timeliness"
  • Stibbons
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    Gnozo wrote: »
    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    Gnozo wrote: »
    Are you hoping for free stuff from crown Store?

    No, but the general sense of negativity currently on the forums doesn't seem like a good work environment.

    You know why we are negative? We are constantly giving feedback to them. Collecting major issues from the game and telling them to work on them. They dont to *** about it. Just mentioning a few points:


    Lag in Cyro: Nothing, completly silent. And still no fix

    Defile meta: No fix, only decreased duration while sets like duroks still maintain 100% uptime. Befoul cp is the Problem, not the duration.

    Sloads: Still stackable, main complain point.

    Warden Class CC: Nothing.

    Templar sustain: Now even worse.

    Snipe health desync: Still not fixed

    Rune cage CC: Broken like hell, what they do? Reduce dmg by 20%. Clunky CC is the Problem, not the damage.

    These are only a few points we told them 100000 times. And nothing changed the way the players want it to change. Little to 0 communication from the devs why they did certain things and whats the Intention behind sets like sloads or the current state of the Latency Problems in Cyrodiil.

    Sure some patch Notes were good but most of them are not what we are asking for. Class reps did a really good job about collecting pain points. Less then 5% got adressed with current patch.

    Thats why we are not Happy. We expected waaaaaay more

    I agree. Main problems are still here. We just got minor tweaks and most are not even needed and some nerfs are camouflaged as buffs.
  • Cadbury
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    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    @Gnozo

    Interesting. But, it should be noted that while not everything was addressed, some of it was.

    The community should attempt to positively reinforce what was addressed. I'm not saying that your disappointment about the other issues shouldn't be noted (negatively reinforce something we don't like), but only providing negative reinforcement in a specific area only serves to shut down any changes at all.

    The grievances you've listed are quite insightful as to what it is the community still has a problem with, but at the same time the feedback you provide completely ignores any of the 'good' changes. Understandably, my post itself does the opposite, only praising without any reprimands.

    The sentiment shouldn't be: "We expected waaaaay more" or "You're doing a great job!", but more of: "We appreciate what you've done, but are disappointed about certain aspects of the focus and timeliness"

    Not that I disagree with you, but if you're expecting boundless positivity on the Internet you going to be disappointed.
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • Avran_Sylt
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    @Cadbury

    Eh, it's one of those things.

    I know people are sacks of waste, myself included, especially when anonymity is involved. Normalizing it just makes it acceptable, and promotes a general stagnation in that regard.

    I'm simply taking a stance counter to it, because a culture of acceptable shittyness isn't something that I like. For one, it's terribly counter-productive.

    Others may follow suit, or not.
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