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please buff sorcs
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Sylosi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sorc def needs a buff I find a 41m unblockable, undodgeable, unreflectable stun too difficult to land, because if my opponent is immovable it doesn't work, I think it is unfair and too skilled to expect me to watch what my opponent is doing, this game is not meant to be an esport.
The unblockable, undodgeable, etc obviously helps with this, but it is not enough, so I'd like it if Rune Cage could be buffed to work on players with immovable also, thanks.Edited by Sylosi on July 9, 2018 1:22PM1 -
Irylia✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don’t think any sorc main disagrees that rc should be nerfed or at the very least is over tuned.
I’d much rather have frag stun than rc because it still has counterplay while weaving into a combo smoother without forcing a guaranteed stun at max range.
All rc has done is provide players with another *** point to hate on sorcs as we’ve had forum threads created on us weekly for over a year now.
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Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...
I'm not even a Templar and this was painful for me to read lol
for once I feel your pain.0 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...
Yeah ok, and I’m Jesus Christ
Hello son.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.3 -
ragingruby1991✭✭✭It is absolutely hilarious reading some of the posts here defending magsorcs. Here’s what they have going for them:
1. High damage combo that is so good that magsorcs don’t even need to build into damage and can run all sustain sets (and usually do) and can still kill most targets with ease.
2. Sustain, see #1. Plus dark conversion after they just streak away after the slightest hint of damage.
3. Rune Cage - LOL
4. Incredible mobility - anyone that thinks sorcs have bad mobility are delusional. That part of the class notes a little bit ago was hilarious to read.
5. Shields - any decent player that can sustain on a sorc can just shied stack away until they are ready to insta burst you or streak away to immediately reset the fight.
Sorcs are really only weak when fighting outnumbered, and they should be. Every class should be.
I have 10 toons (a mag and stam version of each class) and magsorc is by FAR the easiest class to PvP on. Great damage, great sustain, great mobility, and great survivability with shields. They need to be weak somewhere and they really aren’t.
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usmguy1234✭✭✭✭✭
✭ragingruby1991 wrote: »It is absolutely hilarious reading some of the posts here defending magsorcs. Here’s what they have going for them:
1. High damage combo that is so good that magsorcs don’t even need to build into damage and can run all sustain sets (and usually do) and can still kill most targets with ease.
2. Sustain, see #1. Plus dark conversion after they just streak away after the slightest hint of damage.
3. Rune Cage - LOL
4. Incredible mobility - anyone that thinks sorcs have bad mobility are delusional. That part of the class notes a little bit ago was hilarious to read.
5. Shields - any decent player that can sustain on a sorc can just shied stack away until they are ready to insta burst you or streak away to immediately reset the fight.
Sorcs are really only weak when fighting outnumbered, and they should be. Every class should be.
I have 10 toons (a mag and stam version of each class) and magsorc is by FAR the easiest class to PvP on. Great damage, great sustain, great mobility, and great survivability with shields. They need to be weak somewhere and they really aren’t.
1. False. We are running that much sustain to survive and just barely. The only builds we rofl stomp are light and medium armor potatoes that no one else has trouble killing either.
2. Try using dark conversion when you have a good player on you or multiple decent ones... you'll be dead before you finish casting it or if you get distance they'll have time to catch you. And one dark deal equals one shield roughly... whoopee do.
3. Rune cage: still haven't died to it unless I screwed up and I run in to it a lot.
4. Incredible mobility. Laughable at best. 3rd cast of streak costs 9k by itself. If you want to see the true sonic the hedgehog of cyrodiil look to the stam specs (warden and sorc)
5. Shields. Once again strong against potatoes.Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
Eirius- Altmer Magdk
Stormifeth- Altmer Magplar
Disclaimer: My comments are a little sarcasm mixed with truth. If you can't handle that don't respond to me.3 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭sometimes I have to get a target to under 25% health before they detonate, this should probably be buffed up to 50% because 25% is a bit tricky. perhaps a second execute? or maybe a passive that just deal more damage to targets under 50% health? that might be a bit OP so make it electric and physical damage only.
also on occasion targets of my rune cage are actually breaking free after a few seconds, this is making the time it takes to target all my un-counter-playable burst too narrow to pull off effectively all the time, if you could make rune cage flat out just un breakable for a more consistent gameplay experience I would really appreciate it as it would allow the enemy to just accept their fate instead of giving them the glimmer of cruel hope that they *might* survive whats about to be done to them.
. . .oh and buff shields. . .I don't have a reason for this one but its kind of an auto include.
. . .and nerf shield breaker.
2/10 for effort.
You attack sorcs and they are terribly weak. All they have is ranged execute that deals aoe damage, unblockable ranged stun that lasts 5 seconds, some mediocre shields that need to be used every 6 seconds and streak. Streak is not that good either, since it cost magicka. Just compare it to warden's netch, netch is zero cost and it also restore magicka or stamina, and gives major brutality/sorcery. Also, unlike nightblades, sorcs cannot siphon health and this make them weak in outnumbered situations. Not to mention cloak that is absolutely broken and gives nightblades unfair advantage over sorcs.
Sorc does not have reliable self heal, making templars op compared to sorcs, nor does it have great skill to purge themselves. Also, you are forced to use restoration staff to gain acess to 3rd shield, and that absolutely sux. And some new and cool sets like zaan are not sorc friendly because you need to be up to 8 meters near target for it to proc. With poor mobility sorc has, its very hard to use them.
Compared to DK sorc do not have dots and also need to use wizard riposte to gain minor maim on enemies, while DKs get that by pressing one button via choking thalons. Also, if DK has great skill like molten whip, why cant sorcs get electric whip?
Zos should really balance the game some more, it is cleary catering toward other non sorc classes.
You forgot the most important thing. Sorcs have no debuff. You have to depend on your raw damage power. Whatever you do opponents heal and come back to your face. If opponents have enought resistance , all you damage are wet noodles. Not even move anything by an inch. I abandoned sorc long time ago. I even regretted why I made a mag sorc character and waste my time to level up Only one CC. On 1v1 I never lost to a magic sorc. When I have my CC immunity up all the time and debuffs/poison goes , stupid sorc not even able to purge or heal. Mag sorc can only be overpowered against noobs. Noobs have low stamina/ low resistance and not even know how to make a build or even play and cry in forums. Why cant these poeple play mag sorc main then ? On competive level mag sorc have no place. We know how many mag sorcs goes to the top in 1v1 tournaments. No world top PVP players chooses mag sorc for a reason. No debuffs & burst heals alone will make them a useless class. Dont make a mag sorc . You will regret one day its a useless class only good at killing mud crabs and noobs with no resistance
And we have enough mag sorcs in the game. On 1v1 mag sorc is complete garbage. Its easy cheese. Sorcs excel in only 1 thing. Group zergs in PVP that too only because of run cage and mage wrath. Thats it. ON PVE side even DK & templars are pulling equal to sorc. NB is far above in DPS by almost 30 percent than rest of other classes.
OP seems like a noob troll.Dont bother him.Edited by Priyasekarssk on July 9, 2018 4:59PM2 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Today a sorc rune prison’d me and went to overload so I broke free, because I had stamina from managing resources, and then killed them in a couple of hits.
TLDR: rune prison is a little too easy, but enough crying about sorcs already.0 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Today a sorc rune prison’d me and went to overload so I broke free, because I had stamina from managing resources, and then killed them in a couple of hits.
TLDR: rune prison is a little too easy, but enough crying about sorcs already.
I'm sure today's patch notes are going to produce lots of tears. Tears of sorrow from sorcs, and joy from everyone else lol.Edited by Strider__Roshin on July 9, 2018 3:27PM2 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Today a sorc rune prison’d me and went to overload so I broke free, because I had stamina from managing resources, and then killed them in a couple of hits.
TLDR: rune prison is a little too easy, but enough crying about sorcs already.
I'm sure today's patch notes is going to produce lots of tears. Tears of sorrow from sorcs, and joy from everyone else lol.
I’d doubt very much if ZOS nerfs sorcs this patch. Perhaps rune cage might (and should) recieve some adjustment, but mag sorcs will always be difficult for new or inexperience players and will always produce tears.0 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Today a sorc rune prison’d me and went to overload so I broke free, because I had stamina from managing resources, and then killed them in a couple of hits.
TLDR: rune prison is a little too easy, but enough crying about sorcs already.
I'm sure today's patch notes is going to produce lots of tears. Tears of sorrow from sorcs, and joy from everyone else lol.
I’d doubt very much if ZOS nerfs sorcs this patch. Perhaps rune cage might (and should) recieve some adjustment, but mag sorcs will always be difficult for new or inexperience players and will always produce tears.
Hopefully they either change the kill credit for BGs or change Mage's Fury as well.2 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭Today a sorc rune prison’d me and went to overload so I broke free, because I had stamina from managing resources, and then killed them in a couple of hits.
TLDR: rune prison is a little too easy, but enough crying about sorcs already.
I'm sure today's patch notes are going to produce lots of tears. Tears of sorrow from sorcs, and joy from everyone else lol.
Not all . Pros will switch to other classes and know what meta is and kill again or switch to stam sorcs. I have 8 characters levelled. My mage sorc is master crafter. You like or not, mag sorc is not overpowered and dont expect any meaningful nerfs.
I dont take my mag sorc to PVP.
My PVP characters are Stam NB & stamden.
Noobs will always die and complain in forums. Only thing that is overpowered and ucounterable now is sload.Edited by Priyasekarssk on July 9, 2018 4:06PM0 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...
You are such a biased sorc troll your posts cannot be taken seriously.
And this thread isn't?
It's hard not to be a biased sorc when ludicrous threads get posted daily moaning about sorcs. Sorcs where on the back foot for a an age. 6 months of pitiful burst after Frag took its second nerf and lost its stun and yet still posts like this were raised by noob players daily.
Sorcs were still decent, ofc in a shite, 1 dimentional state compared to old sorc, but they were still good for 1vX, and dominating the leaderboards. Sorc drops to mid tier and the complaints and buffs roll in, just look at haunting's nerf.
Meanwhile templars have been low tier for 2 years solo, stamDK for 6 months too, but without a silly OP buff, stam builds didn't exist for like 2 years in balance, and MagDK was bottom tier for 2.5yr until around 6 month ago.Edited by ak_pvp on July 9, 2018 4:06PMMagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
Best houseknight EU.1 -
Urvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »O_o
Sorcs control the house and senate...they dont need a buff.
We are the senate2 -
Urvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Thannazzar wrote: »Just No!
And if you run a shield stacking Sorc, the Sload set is your fault!
There is no other way to run a magsorc.1 -
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