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please buff sorcs

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sometimes I have to get a target to under 25% health before they detonate, this should probably be buffed up to 50% because 25% is a bit tricky. perhaps a second execute? or maybe a passive that just deal more damage to targets under 50% health? that might be a bit OP so make it electric and physical damage only.

also on occasion targets of my rune cage are actually breaking free after a few seconds, this is making the time it takes to target all my un-counter-playable burst too narrow to pull off effectively all the time, if you could make rune cage flat out just un breakable for a more consistent gameplay experience I would really appreciate it as it would allow the enemy to just accept their fate instead of giving them the glimmer of cruel hope that they *might* survive whats about to be done to them.

. . .oh and buff shields. . .I don't have a reason for this one but its kind of an auto include.

. . .and nerf shield breaker.
Edited by Wing on July 8, 2018 11:16PM
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    ...You tried...
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    Sorry but not a great troll
    Edited by Morgul667 on July 8, 2018 11:35PM
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    no l2p
  • DeadlyPhoenix
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    I read it. I disagree though. Sorcs need a major nerf to every single one of their abilities.

    (I can do it too)
    Edited by DeadlyPhoenix on July 9, 2018 12:02AM
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    its 20%.

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    I agree.

    Devs noted we aren't very good movement based.

    I require perma + 200% movement boost as a passive.
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    The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...
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    The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...

    I'm not even a Templar and this was painful for me to read lol
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    The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...

    Yeah ok, and I’m Jesus Christ
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    The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...

    You are such a biased sorc troll your posts cannot be taken seriously.
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    The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...

    Lol :D Jesus Beam is good ONLY vs medium armour users that are not templars (cleanse), NBs (cloak) and Wardens (stam based insta heal). Everyone else will just heal or shield through it (ofcourse if you hit the target you wanted, not the one 20m behind with 100% hp).

    As far as I know you can break free from eclipse... Or just use mist form and block to remove eclipse and gain free CC immunity.

    Srsly, though OP just trolls us (everyone knows sorcs don't need any buffs) he's right about shieldbreaker. This set is the most broken set in the game. Imagine set that works like that vs roll dodge (when you have dodge fatigue on you receive 2k oblivion damage even while you're in the middle of the roll) - not very entertaining? This set needs complete rework.
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
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    Nightblades need a buff to
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    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...

    You are such a biased sorc troll your posts cannot be taken seriously.

    And this thread isn't?

    It's hard not to be a biased sorc when ludicrous threads get posted daily moaning about sorcs. Sorcs where on the back foot for a an age. 6 months of pitiful burst after Frag took its second nerf and lost its stun and yet still posts like this were raised by noob players daily.

    Cage gets a buff and boom everyone jumps on that band wagon again. It's just boring. Sure in this patch cage has had a buff, (if you run Immov pots the skill doesn't even fire - you counter the entire skill) but sorcs are still the easiest class to counter bar none, and are very telegraphed in how they play and still face multiple issues.

    So yeah sorc players do bite, and do defend like @Emma_Overload but its because we are bored of every scrub and his dog moaning about sorcs endlessly.
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    O_o

    Sorcs control the house and senate...they dont need a buff.
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    O_o

    Sorcs control the house and senate...they dont need a buff.

    As they should! Give in to the dark side. Everyone should just play a sorc and that would end the nerf threads.
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    But what about pets? You forgot about those. Any suggestions?

    I'd say make them all work like shadowrend monster mask, so they spawn automatically when you're hit. And of course invulnerable.
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    So many whooshes in one thread.
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    The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...

    Templar is the second worst DPS class in the game after warden.
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    Just No!

    And if you run a shield stacking Sorc, the Sload set is your fault!
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    The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...

    Templar is the second worst DPS class in the game after warden.

    Stamplar is actually really strong atm.

    If you meant magplar then yah, totally.
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  • Haydenmango
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...

    You are such a biased sorc troll your posts cannot be taken seriously.

    And this thread isn't?

    It's hard not to be a biased sorc when ludicrous threads get posted daily moaning about sorcs. Sorcs where on the back foot for a an age. 6 months of pitiful burst after Frag took its second nerf and lost its stun and yet still posts like this were raised by noob players daily.

    Cage gets a buff and boom everyone jumps on that band wagon again. It's just boring. Sure in this patch cage has had a buff, (if you run Immov pots the skill doesn't even fire - you counter the entire skill) but sorcs are still the easiest class to counter bar none, and are very telegraphed in how they play and still face multiple issues.

    So yeah sorc players do bite, and do defend like @Emma_Overload but its because we are bored of every scrub and his dog moaning about sorcs endlessly.


    Yes my 10 seconds of cc immunity on a 40 second cooldown tied to using a specific potion can counter the entire skill, wow!
    I can also slot wings (since I'm a DK) to reflect frags as a hard counter! And then the reflected attack will proc rune cage on me and I'll die before breaking free, amazing!
    I can also "Just Slot Purge™" to get rid of haunting curse every single time its cast on me and spam heals to make sure I don't fall into execute range, exciting!
    Don't forget how easy it is to counter negate.... I mean, just move out of it? Right?
    Edited by Haydenmango on July 9, 2018 8:40AM
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...

    You are such a biased sorc troll your posts cannot be taken seriously.

    And this thread isn't?

    It's hard not to be a biased sorc when ludicrous threads get posted daily moaning about sorcs. Sorcs where on the back foot for a an age. 6 months of pitiful burst after Frag took its second nerf and lost its stun and yet still posts like this were raised by noob players daily.

    Cage gets a buff and boom everyone jumps on that band wagon again. It's just boring. Sure in this patch cage has had a buff, (if you run Immov pots the skill doesn't even fire - you counter the entire skill) but sorcs are still the easiest class to counter bar none, and are very telegraphed in how they play and still face multiple issues.

    So yeah sorc players do bite, and do defend like @Emma_Overload but its because we are bored of every scrub and his dog moaning about sorcs endlessly.


    Yes my 10 seconds of cc immunity on a 40 second cooldown tied to using a specific potion can counter the entire skill, wow!
    I can also slot wings (since I'm a DK) to reflect frags as a hard counter! And then the reflected attack will proc rune cage on me and I'll die before breaking free, amazing!
    I can also "Just Slot Purge™" to get rid of haunting curse every single time its cast on me and spam heals to make sure I don't fall into execute range, exciting!
    Don't forget how easy it is to counter negate.... I mean, just move out of it? Right?

    Sorry you are making no sense.

    You are talking about countering Rune Cage right? But then describe Defensive Rune. Now I know you feel Sorcs are OP but as of yet I've not seen any run both Morphs of a skill at once... Haha hilarious.

    Curse was changed a full year ago and you haven't learnt to counter it yet? Blimey.
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  • Haydenmango
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Beardimus wrote: »
    Anti_Virus wrote: »
    The funny thing is that they DID give a 50% execute (Jesus Beam) and an unbreakable CC (Eclipse?) to one class: Templars! Templars still complain though, so I gas the grass is always greener...

    You are such a biased sorc troll your posts cannot be taken seriously.

    And this thread isn't?

    It's hard not to be a biased sorc when ludicrous threads get posted daily moaning about sorcs. Sorcs where on the back foot for a an age. 6 months of pitiful burst after Frag took its second nerf and lost its stun and yet still posts like this were raised by noob players daily.

    Cage gets a buff and boom everyone jumps on that band wagon again. It's just boring. Sure in this patch cage has had a buff, (if you run Immov pots the skill doesn't even fire - you counter the entire skill) but sorcs are still the easiest class to counter bar none, and are very telegraphed in how they play and still face multiple issues.

    So yeah sorc players do bite, and do defend like @Emma_Overload but its because we are bored of every scrub and his dog moaning about sorcs endlessly.


    Yes my 10 seconds of cc immunity on a 40 second cooldown tied to using a specific potion can counter the entire skill, wow!
    I can also slot wings (since I'm a DK) to reflect frags as a hard counter! And then the reflected attack will proc rune cage on me and I'll die before breaking free, amazing!
    I can also "Just Slot Purge™" to get rid of haunting curse every single time its cast on me and spam heals to make sure I don't fall into execute range, exciting!
    Don't forget how easy it is to counter negate.... I mean, just move out of it? Right?

    Sorry you are making no sense.

    You are talking about countering Rune Cage right? But then describe Defensive Rune. Now I know you feel Sorcs are OP but as of yet I've not seen any run both Morphs of a skill at once... Haha hilarious.

    Curse was changed a full year ago and you haven't learnt to counter it yet? Blimey.

    Yes I meant to say defensive rune and no I'm not talking about a sorc running both skills at once, you're very hilarious. The main issue is the un-dodge/block-able aspects of Rune Prison and how it is a LONG RANGED STUN. But apparently you didn't get that.

    So what's the easy counter to curse other than "Just Slot Purge™" Mr. Sorc?

    Everything I said made sense I made one mistake with naming a wrong skill and you try to paint me like an idiot without addressing any of the actual content in my arguments.

    edit for clarity:
    I don't think sorcs are OP at all I just thought the whole "sorcs are still the easiest class to counter bar none" thing was funny and was responding to that. This entire pvp meta is filled with un-counterable cheese just as bad as sorcs. I personally hate bleeds+defile+sloads combo the most.
    Edited by Haydenmango on July 9, 2018 10:16AM
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    oops double post

    Edited by Haydenmango on July 9, 2018 9:07AM
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    I dont understand why:
    Executioner works on players with less than 50% and
    Assasin blade 25%
    Radiant Destruction 50%
    Mage's fury 20%
    Feral guardian 25%

    I always thought that an execution ability is to try to finish someone after you first fight and debilitate, but is ridiculous how i see everywhere brainless players spamming executioner in bgs.

    I would suggest zos to rework all execute abilities when the enemie is at 25% hp or less.
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    Wing wrote: »
    sometimes I have to get a target to under 25% health before they detonate, this should probably be buffed up to 50% because 25% is a bit tricky. perhaps a second execute? or maybe a passive that just deal more damage to targets under 50% health? that might be a bit OP so make it electric and physical damage only.

    also on occasion targets of my rune cage are actually breaking free after a few seconds, this is making the time it takes to target all my un-counter-playable burst too narrow to pull off effectively all the time, if you could make rune cage flat out just un breakable for a more consistent gameplay experience I would really appreciate it as it would allow the enemy to just accept their fate instead of giving them the glimmer of cruel hope that they *might* survive whats about to be done to them.

    . . .oh and buff shields. . .I don't have a reason for this one but its kind of an auto include.

    . . .and nerf shield breaker.

    2/10 for effort.

    You attack sorcs and they are terribly weak. All they have is ranged execute that deals aoe damage, unblockable ranged stun that lasts 5 seconds, some mediocre shields that need to be used every 6 seconds and streak. Streak is not that good either, since it cost magicka. Just compare it to warden's netch, netch is zero cost and it also restore magicka or stamina, and gives major brutality/sorcery. Also, unlike nightblades, sorcs cannot siphon health and this make them weak in outnumbered situations. Not to mention cloak that is absolutely broken and gives nightblades unfair advantage over sorcs.
    Sorc does not have reliable self heal, making templars op compared to sorcs, nor does it have great skill to purge themselves. Also, you are forced to use restoration staff to gain acess to 3rd shield, and that absolutely sux. And some new and cool sets like zaan are not sorc friendly because you need to be up to 8 meters near target for it to proc. With poor mobility sorc has, its very hard to use them.
    Compared to DK sorc do not have dots and also need to use wizard riposte to gain minor maim on enemies, while DKs get that by pressing one button via choking thalons. Also, if DK has great skill like molten whip, why cant sorcs get electric whip?
    Zos should really balance the game some more, it is cleary catering toward other non sorc classes.
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