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Fix/improve pickpocketing!

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cjechurchill
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I am becoming increasingly annoyed with pickpocketing. My skill line is maxed out so I don't know whether this is a bug or part of the gamebut when I pickpocket someone it will say 90% or something, then when I press F, the second I press it, it goes down to 50% or something and I get caught. Is this a bug or just a stupid mechanic? It needs to be fixed because It ruins the gameplay.
  • notimetocare
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    Timed opportunity. Its intended. Realistic as well
  • cjechurchill
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    It is total BS. Since writing this post I have been caught 3 times and now have a bounty of over 1000 gold because 2 of them started a fight with me and I had to kill them.
  • Artim_X
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    The trick is to be close enough to the target so that the attempt does not require additional movement (being too close can sometimes force your character to readjust themselves before the attempt and being too far forces your character to move forward). Make sure that the NPC is truly stationary during the attempt, since a suddenly moving target can potentially cause you to fail.
    (AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanist
    Electric-Stun
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    • Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
      Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
    Electric-Pets
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    • Stress free one bar pet build .
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
    • Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
    Electric-Heal
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    • My Healer Build.
    • Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
    Electric-Ward
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    • My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
    • Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
    Electric-Vamp
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
    Dawnfang
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
    Duskfang
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
    Eye of the Queen
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
    Eye of the King
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
    PvE Starter Gear
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    • Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
    • Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
    Race
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    • High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
    Mundus Stones
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    • PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
    • PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
    • PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
    Current Champion Points
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    • DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
    • PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    Favorite Foods and Potions
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    • Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
    • Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
    • Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
    • Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
  • rfennell_ESO
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    Any bit of lag will get you caught as the target has moved and in many cases might have been facing you, but the pick pocket attempt still goes through.

    That's why 100% chance still gets caught and why really high chance targets catch you. It doesn't happen on non-mobile targets for the most part, just the roamers.
  • Narvuntien
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    It sucks for me with my 300 ping :'(
  • Gargath
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    cjechurchill wrote: »
    It is total BS. Since writing this post I have been caught 3 times and now have a bounty of over 1000 gold because 2 of them started a fight with me and I had to kill them.

    You don't need to kill anyone even when attacked. Just run and hide behind a high rock/wall and their agression status will decrease and they will loose interest in you very fast, the same with the guards.
    Invest in 2 special sets for effective thievery, which give range decrease for being seen.
    With them and on khajiit, stealing is poetry and easy :).

    Pickpocketing in eso is easy if you know what to do and do it correctly.
    Edited by Gargath on July 8, 2018 3:31PM
    PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."
  • Jaraal
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    In most cases it's lag. The green numbers pop on your screen a second or two late and the server registers your pick after the actual number has gone down. Also, if you're a NB, just hit your cloak (or drink invis potions) a few times after they aggro, and they will go back to whatever they were doing. No need to exacerbate your bounty by fighting them in front of others. And.... do the Covetous Countess quest repeatedly in the Thieves Guild, and you will have stacks of counterfeit pardon edicts to erase your bounty. Not to mention getting the occasional Abah's Watch motifs as well.


    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/261036/guide-to-preparing-for-the-covetous-countess


    Edited by Jaraal on July 8, 2018 7:56PM
  • Gilvoth
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    cjechurchill wrote: »
    I am becoming increasingly annoyed with pickpocketing. My skill line is maxed out so I don't know whether this is a bug or part of the gamebut when I pickpocket someone it will say 90% or something, then when I press F, the second I press it, it goes down to 50% or something and I get caught. Is this a bug or just a stupid mechanic? It needs to be fixed because It ruins the gameplay.

    just out of curiosity, are you an Argonian perchance?


    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/423810/this-argonian-tried-to-pickpocket-me
    Edited by Gilvoth on July 8, 2018 8:21PM
  • cjechurchill
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    @Jaraal Thanks, that will help a lot.

    @dwemer_paleologist I am a high elf.
  • RexyCat
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    cjechurchill wrote: »
    I am becoming increasingly annoyed with pickpocketing. My skill line is maxed out so I don't know whether this is a bug or part of the gamebut when I pickpocket someone it will say 90% or something, then when I press F, the second I press it, it goes down to 50% or something and I get caught. Is this a bug or just a stupid mechanic? It needs to be fixed because It ruins the gameplay.

    Invis pots helps a lot when you are in danger of getting spotted both while pickpocket or open any container with stolen goods.

    At some stage of TG skill line you will also get reduced bounty when you go to a Fencer. It is another option to TP to Hew's Bane (TG hide out) (one of the easiest to avoid guards) and use Fencer to get rid of smaller bounty before they grow too large. Make sure you have a larger friend and or guild list and TP to anyone which isn't in a city (WS) with guards. Pop an invis pot while you are in sneak mode and before you start TP to avoid being interrupted/detected.

    Take your time to observe each NPC movement and placement (so they don't stand in a position where they might see you) before doing any stealing.
  • Skullstachio
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    If you had a khajiit or bosmer nightblade, you may find it extremely easier as they have the stealthy racial passive which reduces the radius which they can be detected by 3 meters, combine that with a full set of night Mother’s embrace and 3 pieces of night terror, and you can practically nearly stare at them face to face without being detected.
    If you see me anywhere. Know that I am sitting back with a bag of popcorn, watching as ESO burns the goodwill of its player base with practices that only disrespects the players time like it did to me and many others...

    If a game does not respect your time, best thing to do is move on from it and find something else.
  • firedrgn
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    It can be immersive with out being so tedious.
    Its my opinion that they have adjusted pickpocketing.

    The npc act differently. Kinda buggy from what they used to about 4 months or so ago.
    I spent enough time pickpocketing that i have almost 50 gold skulls so i think i have a bit of a feel for it.
  • firedrgn
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    You can run away and u dont have to kill npc.

    If your going to spend much time pickpocketing
    Roll a second toon make it a khajitt.

    Like the other reply get two sets that reduce detection
    I have 3 sets on my toon. The 3rd set is on the back bar so i can run move with no sneak penalty. Then i switch to fron bar with both sneak reduction sets if needed.
  • Skwor
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    git gud, pickpocketing is stupid easy.
  • RogueShark
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    What should really be fixed is the not being hidden when literally no one is looking at you and then you have to run away like twelve feet and come back to the same exact position you were before to get the all-clear that you aren't detected anymore even though you shouldn't have been the first time.
    That open eye triggers me.
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  • Gilvoth
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    Skwor wrote: »
    git gud, pickpocketing is stupid easy.

    cjechurchill is a high elf.
    they simply do not posses the thief type lifestyle qualities one needs to steal in a proper manner like the argonians and khajiit.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    cjechurchill wrote: »
    I am becoming increasingly annoyed with pickpocketing. My skill line is maxed out so I don't know whether this is a bug or part of the gamebut when I pickpocket someone it will say 90% or something, then when I press F, the second I press it, it goes down to 50% or something and I get caught. Is this a bug or just a stupid mechanic? It needs to be fixed because It ruins the gameplay.

    Be faster. As soon as it turns green, pick the pocket. It only stays green a short while and the percentage spends most of its time at the lower number.
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