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Survival PvP
sly007
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There has been an influx of popularity for the survival genre in the pvp community. Games like Pug G, Fortnite, and H1Z1 have experienced a great and consistent playerbase for their pvp experience. I think it would be an interesting idea to have a battle royale option in eso.
Eso combat is designed around the trinity, tank, healer, dps, so having a battle royal of multiple teams of 3 might be the best option. A no Champion Points environment with limited resurrections for each team. The map could be as small as an Imperial City District or as big as Cyrodiil depending on which route is best for the game.
This could be an opportunity to introduce some new siege equipment that can only be found and used on the survival maps. Perhaps a rapid fire ballista with limited bolts that have to found around the map or a consumables that automatically ressurect a fallen ally but consumes one of the limited ressurections for the team. Also, this should be a single queue environment with zero pre-mades. If you want a pre-made group pvp, there is already cyrodiil and battlegrounds.
Just an idea. I haven't put much thought into this but I think it is a good one. Eso is a great game. Giving more options to player with different preferences is a good thing.
Eso combat is designed around the trinity, tank, healer, dps, so having a battle royal of multiple teams of 3 might be the best option. A no Champion Points environment with limited resurrections for each team. The map could be as small as an Imperial City District or as big as Cyrodiil depending on which route is best for the game.
This could be an opportunity to introduce some new siege equipment that can only be found and used on the survival maps. Perhaps a rapid fire ballista with limited bolts that have to found around the map or a consumables that automatically ressurect a fallen ally but consumes one of the limited ressurections for the team. Also, this should be a single queue environment with zero pre-mades. If you want a pre-made group pvp, there is already cyrodiil and battlegrounds.
Just an idea. I haven't put much thought into this but I think it is a good one. Eso is a great game. Giving more options to player with different preferences is a good thing.
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Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Not really a good idea. It’s like „just cloak until the others decimated themselves“. Or the old trolltank and healer thingy. And definitely not on a map as big as cyro4 -
sly007✭✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Not really a good idea. It’s like „just cloak until the others decimated themselves“. Or the old trolltank and healer thingy. And definitely not on a map as big as cyro
I think it is fine if players cloak. It is a viable strategy. Stealth on the other hand, should be disabled. Also, a shrinking map would deter camping.
Playing tank is fine too. The idea is to survive till the end. Remember, no pre-mades. There will be consumables to help.Edited by sly007 on July 8, 2018 8:24AM0 -
phillyproduct✭✭✭Sounds like a great idea.... Combine 2maps together and make it a battleground with 40 or so peopleCP-750 orc nighblade ebonheart NA
Dark elf sorc ebonheart
Orc templar
Dark elf Dragon knight
Redguard warden
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sly007✭✭✭✭phillyproduct wrote: »Sounds like a great idea.... Combine 2maps together and make it a battleground with 40 or so people
I don't know which number would be ideal but 40 sounds decent.0 -
Ectheliontnacil✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭But no groups please, or at least give us the option to queue solo. I don't want to do this game mode with pug groups. It will probably be a drawn out fight, I could imagine it taking quite some time to complete the entire event. I'd rather not be stuck with a useless group the entire time, solo would be more exciting anyways imo.0 -
sly007✭✭✭✭Ectheliontnacil wrote: »But no groups please, or at least give us the option to queue solo. I don't want to do this game mode with pug groups. It will probably be a drawn out fight, I could imagine it taking quite some time to complete the entire event. I'd rather not be stuck with a useless group the entire time, solo would be more exciting anyways imo.
Solo would be more exciting but I think that will deter players from playing. There would be no pre-mades so everyone would be in a pug. If you wish to continue the battle royale solo and abandoning your team, that is also a choice you have. I imagine it would be difficult to run around solo with other players sticking to their group.
The time to kill in bg at the moment is fast. Non tanky or slippery players does within 15 seconds. 3 to 5 seconds if the are caught off guard. With multiple players from multiple teams being able to attack one person, I think the number of teams will dwindle very quickly. If each team had 4 ressurections but none is able to actually ressurect, they can be wiped instantly.0 -
Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Not really a good idea. It’s like „just cloak until the others decimated themselves“. Or the old trolltank and healer thingy. And definitely not on a map as big as cyro
I think it is fine if players cloak. It is a viable strategy. Stealth on the other hand, should be disabled. Also, a shrinking map would deter camping.
Playing tank is fine too. The idea is to survive till the end. Remember, no pre-mades. There will be consumables to help.
still not sold on it. eso pvp is build around play-die-play again. to eliminate the last part clashes with how this game is "balanced". you can nearly one-shot people on certain builds right now with close to zero counterplay. what a fun this would be on the recieving end when death means game over? this game is not balanced enough to support your otherwise interesting idea.
*note that I have never played the games you mentioned in your opEdited by Chilly-McFreeze on July 8, 2018 9:14AM0 -
BigBragg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I love the idea! Zeni has done so well with the PvP already provided to us. They really should add more to maintain and balance.0 -
sly007✭✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Not really a good idea. It’s like „just cloak until the others decimated themselves“. Or the old trolltank and healer thingy. And definitely not on a map as big as cyro
I think it is fine if players cloak. It is a viable strategy. Stealth on the other hand, should be disabled. Also, a shrinking map would deter camping.
Playing tank is fine too. The idea is to survive till the end. Remember, no pre-mades. There will be consumables to help.
still not sold on it. eso pvp is build around play-die-play again. to eliminate the last part clashes with how this game is "balanced". you can nearly one-shot people on certain builds right now with close to zero counterplay. what a fun this would be on the recieving end?
The beauty of this is you can always play bg or Cyrodiil. Battle royale is not for everyone just as bg is not for everyone. I have personally never a battle royale game because I have never been drawn to them.
As for the one shot builds. I think they would be important because they can quickly take out multiple players. I can see many players enjoying this play style and utilizing it to survival and win. Some players will build to be tanky in order to survival and other will build to kill quickly. Regardless of how you build your character, you will be a part of a team. Whether you play with your team, or run off solo, is entirely up to you. If you die solo, there would be nobody to ressurect you.0 -
sly007✭✭✭✭I love the idea! Zeni has done so well with the PvP already provided to us. They really should add more to maintain and balance.
I don't see how this would be any different than bg IB terms of balance. Of course there are variables I can't see now but there is nothing new being added besides a new pvp mode with the same gear, skills, and classes.
Just like certain builds perform better in chaos ball, I am sure players will craft a build that will perform best in battle royale. Others will keep the same build as usuall.0 -
runagate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Not really a good idea. It’s like „just cloak until the others decimated themselves“. Or the old trolltank and healer thingy. And definitely not on a map as big as cyro
OP, this was the only response you needed to read and if you don't get it you must not have played this game long.0 -
sly007✭✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Not really a good idea. It’s like „just cloak until the others decimated themselves“. Or the old trolltank and healer thingy. And definitely not on a map as big as cyro
OP, this was the only response you needed to read and if you don't get it you must not have played this game long.
I disagree. If you are that inexperienced and think cloak is the bane of a battle royale, then your opinion is insignificant to me.1
