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This player was using sloads to fight me. I killed him, but his sloads stayed on me and reapplied itself TWICE. At the 48s and 54s mark in the screenshot, you can see that sloads reapplied itself. If this is a bug, then can @ZOS_GinaBruno notify the development team for a possible fix? If that's how the set was intended to work, then I can only describe it with one word: BROKEN.
Edited by StaticWave on July 6, 2018 3:47AM
  • LeHarrt91
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    Was this in Cyrodiil/ Bgs or a duel?
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    LeHarrt91 wrote: »
    Was this in Cyrodiil/ Bgs or a duel?

    That fight happened on a resource I took, and he was the only one there so those sload ticks were from him.
  • LeHarrt91
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    StaticWave wrote: »
    LeHarrt91 wrote: »
    Was this in Cyrodiil/ Bgs or a duel?

    That fight happened on a resource I took, and he was the only one there so those sload ticks were from him.

    I can understand the first proc after they died, as there was a poison dot on you which can proc it (even thought they are dead) but the second one does look bugged.
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  • OGLezard
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    Lulz
  • Fur_like_snow
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    Inb4 sload defenders say it’s a L2P issue slot purge wyrd tree etc etc.
    Edited by Fur_like_snow on July 6, 2018 4:13AM
  • Joshlenoir
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    sLoAdS isNT oVeRpoWereD JuSt SloT A pUrGe
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    Joshlenoir wrote: »
    sLoAdS isNT oVeRpoWereD JuSt SloT A pUrGe

    Didnt know there was a stamina purge for my Medium armor wearer.
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  • generalmyrick
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    he didn't die...

    im confused....
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  • Dreyloch
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    LeHarrt91 wrote: »
    Joshlenoir wrote: »
    sLoAdS isNT oVeRpoWereD JuSt SloT A pUrGe

    Didnt know there was a stamina purge for my Medium armor wearer.

    You still have magicka regardless of whatever class you are. It's not stamina based, but efficient purge is in the PvP line.I agree slightly with you here though, have been running my stamden less because of all the DoT damage in general. Not just sloads.
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    LeHarrt91 wrote: »
    Joshlenoir wrote: »
    sLoAdS isNT oVeRpoWereD JuSt SloT A pUrGe

    Didnt know there was a stamina purge for my Medium armor wearer.

    There is, its called delete system 32
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    Dreyloch wrote: »
    LeHarrt91 wrote: »
    Joshlenoir wrote: »
    sLoAdS isNT oVeRpoWereD JuSt SloT A pUrGe

    Didnt know there was a stamina purge for my Medium armor wearer.

    You still have magicka regardless of whatever class you are. It's not stamina based, but efficient purge is in the PvP line.

    So is Warhorn.. Lol
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  • PlagueSD
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    he didn't die...

    im confused....

    Yeah, someone that DIDN'T die to sloads is complaining???
  • nemvar
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    In 1 of 1000 cases sloads will reapply itself three times! If this were to ever happen the universe as we know it will end.
  • SilverWF
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    If it's true, then it's definitely broken. This means that proc happens again while proc on CD.
    LeHarrt91 wrote: »
    Joshlenoir wrote: »
    sLoAdS isNT oVeRpoWereD JuSt SloT A pUrGe

    Didnt know there was a stamina purge for my Medium armor wearer.

    Depends on the build, you don't need stamina purge
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    PlagueSD wrote: »
    he didn't die...

    im confused....

    Yeah, someone that DIDN'T die to sloads is complaining???

    Maybe it's because OP is a competent player? I've seen his @name packing people up since a year ago back in Sotha, and can only imagine he's gotten even better since then.

    Or maybe it's because the Sloader was a snipe-spamming zergling who doesn't know how to block/dodge/selfheal or otherwise mitigate damage when isolated and under pressure?

    The way you phrase your reply implies you think that player skill differentials should not be a deciding factor in PvP. And that item sets should be doing all the work.

    Which, I suppose, is basically the mentality of most Sloaders.
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    TheYKcid wrote: »
    PlagueSD wrote: »
    he didn't die...

    im confused....

    Yeah, someone that DIDN'T die to sloads is complaining???

    Maybe it's because OP is a competent player? I've seen his @name packing people up since a year ago back in Sotha, and can only imagine he's gotten even better since then.

    Or maybe it's because the Sloader was a snipe-spamming zergling who doesn't know how to block/dodge/selfheal or otherwise mitigate damage when isolated and under pressure?

    The way you phrase your reply implies you think that player skill differentials should not be a deciding factor in PvP. And that item sets should be doing all the work.

    Which, I suppose, is basically the mentality of most Sloaders.

    It’s kind of troubling (for the future of eso PvP) how many people who defend Sloads adopt the position that skill shouldn’t be a part of this game, and that Sloads is the answer to the “broken builds” players run to 1vX, completely ignorant of the fact that there aren’t really any broken 1vX builds right now. I feel like this more or less died when sustain became a big issue with Morrwind and heavy armor was heavily nerfed in sustain and damage. It’s by far harder than ever to fight out numbered and still many people seem to think it shouldn’t happen.
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    LeHarrt91 wrote: »
    Joshlenoir wrote: »
    sLoAdS isNT oVeRpoWereD JuSt SloT A pUrGe

    Didnt know there was a stamina purge for my Medium armor wearer.

    As @Dreyloch pointed out, you do have magicka to burn. The support skill works fine on stam builds. The heal, if you take that morph, will be garbage, but you'll still get the cleanse.

    So, here's something you might want to consider when looking at abilities. Rather than just paying attention to what they scale off of, also keep an eye on benefits they provide. A lot of abilities will do things for you, even if they're, "off-spec." For example, as a stam warden, you should be using Bird of Prey. Sure, it's a magicka ability, but nothing on that ability actually scales, it's fixed bonuses that don't change depending on the size of your mag pool.
  • Ankael07
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    Its the 7th extra dot that causes the reapplying. Like different proc sets triggering each other wasnt broken enough
    Edited by Ankael07 on July 6, 2018 10:06AM
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  • casparian
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    This isn't a thread about whether Sload's is OP or how to counter it. This is a thread about the fact that it appears that in some situations, Sload's can proc off of its own proc, which would be a bug regardless of whether the set is OP or not. Please take the balance discussion to one of the two dozen threads about it and let the bug discussion stay as a bug discussion.
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    Dreyloch wrote: »
    LeHarrt91 wrote: »
    Joshlenoir wrote: »
    sLoAdS isNT oVeRpoWereD JuSt SloT A pUrGe

    Didnt know there was a stamina purge for my Medium armor wearer.

    You still have magicka regardless of whatever class you are. It's not stamina based, but efficient purge is in the PvP line.I agree slightly with you here though, have been running my stamden less because of all the DoT damage in general. Not just sloads.

    True, too bad it takes 8k magicka until it’s upgraded..soo since i have 8.8k magic i can use it once and not stealth anyways, brilliant

    I mean i could change my sets and other stuff etc..but just because sloads? Nahh it’s not that big of a deal
  • Anastian
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    I can also confirm this. I always had the feeling that even if I was avoiding damage, sometime Sload reapplied by itself. What a bugged set.
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    casparian wrote: »
    This isn't a thread about whether Sload's is OP or how to counter it. This is a thread about the fact that it appears that in some situations, Sload's can proc off of its own proc, which would be a bug regardless of whether the set is OP or not. Please take the balance discussion to one of the two dozen threads about it and let the bug discussion stay as a bug discussion.

    I’ve played a few months and have always wondered if you wear 2 of the same sets in this case sloads would it proc twice?
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    PlagueSD wrote: »
    he didn't die...

    im confused....

    Yeah, someone that DIDN'T die to sloads is complaining???

    this did not kill me and i am outraged!!! NERF! :-)
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  • Biro123
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    Not used it to be able to say from a user's perspective, but it feels like that when ever I start a combat with a sloads user, it is always applied on the very first hit.

    Feels much, much higher than a 10% (30% taking into account la/ability/enchant) proc chance.
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    TheYKcid wrote: »
    PlagueSD wrote: »
    he didn't die...

    im confused....

    Yeah, someone that DIDN'T die to sloads is complaining???

    Maybe it's because OP is a competent player? I've seen his @name packing people up since a year ago back in Sotha, and can only imagine he's gotten even better since then.

    Or maybe it's because the Sloader was a snipe-spamming zergling who doesn't know how to block/dodge/selfheal or otherwise mitigate damage when isolated and under pressure?

    The way you phrase your reply implies you think that player skill differentials should not be a deciding factor in PvP. And that item sets should be doing all the work.

    Which, I suppose, is basically the mentality of most Sloaders.

    It’s kind of troubling (for the future of eso PvP) how many people who defend Sloads adopt the position that skill shouldn’t be a part of this game, and that Sloads is the answer to the “broken builds” players run to 1vX, completely ignorant of the fact that there aren’t really any broken 1vX builds right now. I feel like this more or less died when sustain became a big issue with Morrwind and heavy armor was heavily nerfed in sustain and damage. It’s by far harder than ever to fight out numbered and still many people seem to think it shouldn’t happen.

    I'm not really complaining. I just find it hilarious that, instead of trying to figure out how to counter it, people come here to complain. I have no interest in PvP and will probably never craft Sloads. I guess the "sarcasm" in my post was missed by everyone.

    All these posts are normally "X killed me in PvP. NERF <insert class that killed me>." Maybe choose something other than Rock if all you're fighting is paper... :smiley:
  • StaticWave
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    he didn't die...

    im confused....
    PlagueSD wrote: »
    he didn't die...

    im confused....

    Yeah, someone that DIDN'T die to sloads is complaining???

    Why does it matter if he died or not? This post is about the obvious bug that Sloads currently has, not about its balance, which by the way is already deemed broken by the majority of players.

    I’ve clearly stated my own finding with a picture proof so people can be informed of this bug, but both of you had to make an unnecessary comment towards the post.

    Like @TheYKcid said, "The way you phrase your reply implies you think that player skill differentials should not be a deciding factor in PvP. And that item sets should be doing all the work." Frankly, the guy I killed was no different from an NPC, because he appeared to have no game knowledge. In fact, I stopped attacking and watched him die to resource guards from 30% hp because he did not once press a healing skill. So it speaks a lot about the current state of the game and players who gladly defend sloads.
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    TheYKcid wrote: »
    PlagueSD wrote: »
    he didn't die...

    im confused....

    Yeah, someone that DIDN'T die to sloads is complaining???

    Maybe it's because OP is a competent player? I've seen his @name packing people up since a year ago back in Sotha, and can only imagine he's gotten even better since then.

    Or maybe it's because the Sloader was a snipe-spamming zergling who doesn't know how to block/dodge/selfheal or otherwise mitigate damage when isolated and under pressure?

    The way you phrase your reply implies you think that player skill differentials should not be a deciding factor in PvP. And that item sets should be doing all the work.

    Which, I suppose, is basically the mentality of most Sloaders.

    It’s kind of troubling (for the future of eso PvP) how many people who defend Sloads adopt the position that skill shouldn’t be a part of this game, and that Sloads is the answer to the “broken builds” players run to 1vX, completely ignorant of the fact that there aren’t really any broken 1vX builds right now. I feel like this more or less died when sustain became a big issue with Morrwind and heavy armor was heavily nerfed in sustain and damage. It’s by far harder than ever to fight out numbered and still many people seem to think it shouldn’t happen.

    Not defending Sload's, but I want some of what you are smoking if you think there aren't any broken builds out there.
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  • PlagueSD
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    Applying a CD timer like they did with Zaan set would go a LONG way to fixing this. Notice no one is complaining about Zaan anymore after they did that.

    Edited by PlagueSD on July 6, 2018 5:08PM
  • SilverWF
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    PlagueSD wrote: »
    Applying a CD timer like they did with Zaan set would go a LONG way to fixing this. Notice no one is complaining about Zaan anymore after they did that.

    Noone using it since it becomes a trash, right?
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