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Let me get this straight

  • shadowwraith666
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    it's a one-time account wide purchase get over it, for the price (£14.99) you could have got the full morrowind expansion when you had the chance.
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  • griffkhalifa
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    The base game is cheap as hell now and while it offers a subscription with some quality-of-life benefits, it's not required. Stop complaining every time a for-profit company tries to make a profit.

    By the fact that this game is still going strong after four years, yes, I'd say people are okay with it. People speak with their wallets; they don't cry like babies for free stuff on the forums.
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  • starkerealm
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    Linaleah wrote: »
    isn't black desert - subscription mandatory? ESO gives you 1500 crowns per month with subscription. crowns that can be used to buy all sorts of things... including a warden, if you dont already have acess to it.

    No, BDO is not-subscription mandatory, but there's some shady stuff in the cash shop, as I recall.
  • starkerealm
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    True, but, apparently, they're the best selling items so somebody must be using them.
    DenMoria wrote: »
    Face it, with all the "experience scrolls", "special items", "special potions" and extras, it is P2W.
    Better b2p then p2w...

    Except all those items aren't that useful and are geenrally considered garbage.

    The potions and food are useful to people who PvP a lot, and don't have the resources to burn on consumables. The XP scrolls are useful for people who are still earning their way to 50, or grinding CP, but otherwise, are underwhelming. Once you hit the CP cap, those items are basically meaningless until the next cap increase rolls around... which doesn't actually do much for you, because you'll probably be above that cap when it changes anyway.
  • Easily_Lost
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    Yup. I wish I was one of those folks. I have a subscription and have since 2015, but I never buy anything! What's wrong with me? Help me! Of course I have absolutely zero interest in 99.99% of the junk in the Crown Store. I have no use for a flaming kitty. I only wish I could buy something and gift it.
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    ZO$ will sell anything people are stupid enough to buy. I'd do the same thing.

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    Now you can start buying things in the Crown Store and gifting them.
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  • DenMoria
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    Hmm... interesting! Anybody want an Albino Chicken?
    DenMoria wrote: »
    Yup. I wish I was one of those folks. I have a subscription and have since 2015, but I never buy anything! What's wrong with me? Help me! Of course I have absolutely zero interest in 99.99% of the junk in the Crown Store. I have no use for a flaming kitty. I only wish I could buy something and gift it.
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    ZO$ will sell anything people are stupid enough to buy. I'd do the same thing.

    Zo$ Tokens 2018
    Highlighted the part I am responding to.
    Now you can start buying things in the Crown Store and gifting them.

  • Samadhi
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    Name one MMO that didn't sell new classes but gave them away for free.

    Do you have an MMO in mind that sold classes rather than giving them away free?

    Have not played many of the larger MMO titles, but f2p games like Tera had the Gunner class added for free back in my time playing that

    is charging for classes standard in stuff like LOTR and Star Wars MMOs?
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  • Kel
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    This b2p MMO now sells classes for money? And people are OK with this? Well in this day and age of lootboxes anything can be sold I guess. I now officially declare this game THE most expensive game in history. It is b2p, it has subscription, it has lootboxes, it has paid DLCs and it has paid expansions. It's crazy.

    By this logic, WoW also sells classes.

    Couldn't play as a Demon Hunter unless you bought legion.
    It also has a subscription.
    It also has a cash shop.
    You can buy gold in WoW for real money.

    I don't know what point you are trying to make, but if you think only ESO does this, you must not be too familiar will MMO's.
  • griffkhalifa
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    Hmm... interesting! Anybody want an Albino Chicken?
    DenMoria wrote: »
    Yup. I wish I was one of those folks. I have a subscription and have since 2015, but I never buy anything! What's wrong with me? Help me! Of course I have absolutely zero interest in 99.99% of the junk in the Crown Store. I have no use for a flaming kitty. I only wish I could buy something and gift it.
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    ZO$ will sell anything people are stupid enough to buy. I'd do the same thing.

    Zo$ Tokens 2018
    Highlighted the part I am responding to.
    Now you can start buying things in the Crown Store and gifting them.

    Sure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    How many crowns do you have? Just curious.
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  • Krayl
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    IMHO this game does things wayyyyyyyyyyyy better in terms of the store/transactions than any other game out there. NOTHING is in your face about it. If you're subscribing it's because you play enough to get your money's worth. If you're not subscribing, you're not playing enough to know what it is you're complaining about.
  • DenMoria
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    Hmm... interesting! Anybody want an Albino Chicken?
    DenMoria wrote: »
    Yup. I wish I was one of those folks. I have a subscription and have since 2015, but I never buy anything! What's wrong with me? Help me! Of course I have absolutely zero interest in 99.99% of the junk in the Crown Store. I have no use for a flaming kitty. I only wish I could buy something and gift it.
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    ZO$ will sell anything people are stupid enough to buy. I'd do the same thing.

    Zo$ Tokens 2018
    Highlighted the part I am responding to.
    Now you can start buying things in the Crown Store and gifting them.

    Sure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    How many crowns do you have? Just curious.
    I'll have to check, but somewhere around 50K I think, could be more, might be less. Way back when, I did buy the actual DLC's just in case I decided to unsubscribe.

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