Classes 2018

IZZEFlameLash · July 2018

Anything short of bombers and healers are useless in group. It isn't mNB specific issue. And guess what? MNBs make the best bombers. MNBs are not Stamblades but they are strong in both 1vX, in small groups and large groups.

TheMystid · July 2018

Transmutation + Riposte magblade is amazing in group and a solid pick for solo.

Stam dk is garbage in any scenario.

Thogard · July 2018

TheMystid wrote: »

Transmutation + Riposte magblade is amazing in group and a solid pick for solo.

Stam dk is garbage in any scenario.

Stam DK is great if you’re in a situation where you like playing BGs but your Stam warden’s MMR is too high and therefore gets 30 min long queue times, so you settle for playing a class that feels similar but isn’t nearly as strong.

Yay Stam DK.

Skander · July 2018

thankyourat wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

ItsNebula wrote: »

MagNB is very powerful, it has the ability to 3-4 shot players. A good MagNB can kill people with the, Fear>Incap>Spectral Bow>Execute combo. Idk how you can say its weak lol

In group, it's pretty weak if it's not bombing.

It's good at duels too. Really it only struggles in 1vX

I don't count duels to be PvP. This game is not balanced for 1v1s
It struggles in outnumbered. Not only 1vx.

But it's really good in even numbered fights. It has areas where it struggles like fighting outnumbered, but it has areas where it's strong like group vs group, and it has areas that it's kind of op in like duels. This sounds like a very good balanced class.

In even numbered fights having everything instead of a magicka nb is better

ReverseVenom · July 2018

*cries in dodgeable cliff racer and no stun beetles*

IZZEFlameLash · July 2018

ReverseVenom wrote: »

*cries in dodgeable cliff racer and no stun beetles*

There there, at least they didn't bury your nailed coffin yet. THINK POSITIVE!

/s

Ashamray · July 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

dks are overrated
mag nb is underrated

Magblades are always underrated. Never knew why, they have some of the best-in-class tools in the game in shade/cloak/merciless/fear. With the sload meta I can see the issue, but otherwise an incredibly strong class.

Kinda agree. Complaints mostly come from people who only rely on Cloak and \ or don't use shade properly

Ragnarock41 · July 2018

Thogard wrote: »

TheMystid wrote: »

Transmutation + Riposte magblade is amazing in group and a solid pick for solo.

Stam dk is garbage in any scenario.

Stam DK is great if you’re in a situation where you like playing BGs but your Stam warden’s MMR is too high and therefore gets 30 min long queue times, so you settle for playing a class that feels similar but isn’t nearly as strong.

Yay Stam DK.

Yaaay, stamina something!

Savos_Saren · July 2018

I agree with the StamNB, MagSorc, and StamWarden part. Perhaps even the StamPlar and StamSorcs. Those bleeds, tho!

All the rest aren't quite right.

MagBlades can be very, very powerful. Stinky and Hobb are two MagBlades that can decimate groups of pugs around resources (PC/NA/Vivec).

MagWardens can be pretty comparable to a MagDK in versatility and support if you lean more towards the frost damage aspect. (Pair Valkyn, Ysgramor, and Winterborn!)

MagDK is pretty balanced- until you add the OP factors of Sload, Incap Strike, or Bleeds. (I'm still trying to figure out why there's no magicka version of Bleed...)

I've been running into quite a few StamDKs lately who have strayed away from tanky playstyles and have become swift, dodging machines that pack a punch! I think they're just evolving beyond the stand-your-ground mindset.

D0ntevenL1ft · July 2018

TrinityBreaker wrote: »

Reading stam DK made me giggle. Like mag DK (but with snare removal). Give me a break.

I laughed at that too

SilverWF · July 2018

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

Anything short of bombers and healers are useless in group. It isn't mNB specific issue. And guess what? MNBs make the best bombers. MNBs are not Stamblades but they are strong in both 1vX, in small groups and large groups.

Well, mostly because all bomb-like skills are magicka-based and only NB has stealth, that allows them to get freely inside of enemy zerg?
Not sure why OP hates MagNBs tho

IZZEFlameLash · July 2018

SilverWF wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

Anything short of bombers and healers are useless in group. It isn't mNB specific issue. And guess what? MNBs make the best bombers. MNBs are not Stamblades but they are strong in both 1vX, in small groups and large groups.

Well, mostly because all bomb-like skills are magicka-based and only NB has stealth, that allows them to get freely inside of enemy zerg?
Not sure why OP hates MagNBs tho

MNBs also have better ultgen than any other class as a bomber because Soul Harvest giving 10 ults per kill and potion giving 20 ult. So a successful bomb will net NB another ult faster than the others. I cannot count how many times mNB bombers in my guild's smallman got ult back after a successful bomb that only took out fraction of entire zerg.

Skander · July 2018

Savos_Saren wrote: »

I agree with the StamNB, MagSorc, and StamWarden part. Perhaps even the StamPlar and StamSorcs. Those bleeds, tho!

All the rest aren't quite right.

MagBlades can be very, very powerful. Stinky and Hobb are two MagBlades that can decimate groups of pugs around resources (PC/NA/Vivec).

MagWardens can be pretty comparable to a MagDK in versatility and support if you lean more towards the frost damage aspect. (Pair Valkyn, Ysgramor, and Winterborn!)

MagDK is pretty balanced- until you add the OP factors of Sload, Incap Strike, or Bleeds. (I'm still trying to figure out why there's no magicka version of Bleed...)

I've been running into quite a few StamDKs lately who have strayed away from tanky playstyles and have become swift, dodging machines that pack a punch! I think they're just evolving beyond the stand-your-ground mindset.

Magwarden solo it's literally NPC tier