What type, weight of armor? mixed heavy and medium? All medium? Any sets?

What class? i see orc, but DK NB SORC temp ward???? that will make a difference too

What skills are killing you? what skills are you using?

These all are important factors

Yeah more important numbers are needed such as Max Stam and Health, what's your wep damage and crit resistance look like. Sure we can give you better suggestions from there.

dylaneso wrote: »

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dylaneso wrote: »

Ok so im a two handed orc with 32 stam 32 health. Cp level 256. Every single battle i go into in cyrodill i get killed in what seems to be 1-3 hits, yet when i hit players it seems to not even phase them, im fully buffing myself before fights. Is it just the cp and weapon/armour difference? Or is there something im doing wrong

two handed orc with 32 stam 32 health... think people need more info to see what is what and give out some suggestions.

however, do check your crit resist stat- that can be very important.

Whats would be a good crit resist stat?

Was thinking about just making a new character for pvp

hard to say without knowing anything else about your character- tho I highly recommend 1500+ as a starting point, then juice it up to 2000 with some added impen on your gear and more CPs as you earn em.

dylaneso wrote: »

Korprok wrote: »

dylaneso wrote: »

Korprok wrote: »

dylaneso wrote: »

Ok so im a two handed orc with 32 stam 32 health. Cp level 256. Every single battle i go into in cyrodill i get killed in what seems to be 1-3 hits, yet when i hit players it seems to not even phase them, im fully buffing myself before fights. Is it just the cp and weapon/armour difference? Or is there something im doing wrong

two handed orc with 32 stam 32 health... think people need more info to see what is what and give out some suggestions.

however, do check your crit resist stat- that can be very important.

Whats would be a good crit resist stat?

Was thinking about just making a new character for pvp

hard to say without knowing anything else about your character- tho I highly recommend 1500+ as a starting point, then juice it up to 2000 with some added impen on your gear and more CPs as you earn em.

Orc templar two handed
32 health
32 stam
0 magic

I use wrecking blow IV, brawler IV and forward momentum, i have a healing spell just for backup and i also use puncturing sweep IV

Max health 31286
Max mag 9505
Max stam 14571

Health recov 1019
Stam recov 585
Magicka recov 514

Weapon damage 1510
Weapon crit 17.4%

Phys res 17376

Crit res 243
Spell resist 19189

I am using a two handed axe with full heavy armour

I know it may seem like abit of a weird build lol but as i get use to the game i change it, it works great for me in pve yet when it comes to pvp i have no chance

You should really check this Alcast build out for starters, just to see how far you have to go. Given your stats, I have no doubt you are getting destroyed since it is unlikely you have the gear to survive in Cyrodiil, which makes it much harder to gain the skill you need to excel.

https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-templar-build-pvp/

Thinking about just grinding pve untill i have the gear and cp to make a proper pvp build

I do notice now where im wrong guys thanks for the help, this game overwhelmes me abit but im definitely getting used to it lol

Takes some getting used to. And more cp will help a lot in the future.

I'd echo the other folks telling you not to give up and also to get some gear. An easy setup you could try if you wanted to stick with the heavy armour would be Ravager 5x and Bone Pirate 5x. You could run that with Troll King 2x monster set for more survivability (it procs a strong heal over time when you heal yourself at low health). Based on your posts I'm not entirely clear on whether you are running sets already or not, but you really should. Ravager is purchasable in guild traders for cheap(ish) but Bone Pirate and Troll King would both require doing dungeons (Blackheart Haven and Blessed Crucible respectively). Doing some PvE to get the gear would also get your CP up a bit which would be really helpful.

Ignore the people who say this game is easy. There is a lot going on and for new players, jumping into cyrodiil is tough. You're running up against people who have spent the better part of the last three years in there, and they all have maxed out CP and proper gear. If you gear yourself up, get some more CP, and maybe hook up with a group of players to run with I think you'll have a lot more success.

your stamina and wp damage too low to kill people.
get around 25k stamina, 3k weapon damage, and 1800 stam regen full buffed(major brutality, major endurance)
1000 stamina = 95 weapon damage btw. so total 5000 ish point into offensive

Even with the perfect build, the game does have a steep learning curve for PVP - and you will get beaten by pretty-much everyone - as they all have more practice and are so much further up that curve.

I'd always suggest that new players to Cyro go tanky/sustain to get them more combat-time to learn how to defend themselves - how to get more efficient at it (resource-wise), how to read the flow of battle, and when to run.. Then gradually start changing their setup to add more damage/burst etc.. as they become more comfortable.

Hi there, I know where you are coming from, but exessive health will not really help you in PVP edit: unless you are a tank.

Try changing your attribute points to a max of 8 points to health, the rest goes to stam -> your skills will deal much more damage.

If you are uncomfortable with the amount of health left add glyphs (they are easier to change once you get used to your less health)

Second thing: wearing heavy armor is fine, but you don#t have enough armor and spell resistance to justify loosing 12% weapon damage from medium armor passives, that can easily exeed your current resistance. Armor and Spellresistance is hard capped at 31k -> so with heavy armor you want to be as close to this as possible (preferable without the need to use templars crappy rune focus). You need to wear 5 pieces of heavy armor, make it purple quality and use the passives from armour skill line -> you should be at a comfortable 26-28k armor- and spell resistance (don't forget templar passive).

Alternatively, have a look at fortified brass (craftable set) for going 5 piece medium and still getting nice armor and spell resistance. Idk wether the 12% more weapon damage from medium will outweigh the 2-3k lower armor and spell resistance / + stustain loss due to heavy attack passive missing and lost damage 5 piece bonus, but for DW users its worth a try. Just don't forget that compared to other classes stamplar is dealing less DPS because of their inefficient sustain (yep, there goes a 5 piece dmg bonus), lack of propper defence ( yep, there goes a 5 piece dmg bonus) and lack of proper synthesis with elemental /physical based damage sets (yep, we also loose DPS right there, compared to other classes).

@Minno has introduced a nice 2H ironblood build ... idk if this might be working for you, as it does require some fidling to get it going. But maybe its a try.

last but not least: keep yourself focussed -> trying to be the jack of all trades usually leads to very ineffective combat strategies in eso. For stamina users (2H/bow/DW) keep stamina your main attribute and only add little health to feel more comfy, invest in weapon damage (unless you go towards a dot/elemental damage build) to keep your direct attacks dealing good damage. In PVP a good armor and spell resistance does help alot -> you want to get as close as possible to cap as you can Imo, i value this even more important then impenetradable, with the exeption of BGs. Yet i know thats flavour and alot of good players will tell you otherwise.

For a good start in PVP: 1) stay near healers; 2) First goal should be to stay alive long enough to get an idea why you failed; 3) Get used to dying alot -> everyone dies in cyro, its nothing special or any measurement of how good you are, especially if you just started.

Good luck, have fun ... and see you on the battlefield!

Elsterchen wrote: »

Hi there, I know where you are coming from, but exessive health will not really help you in PVP edit: unless you are a tank.

Try changing your attribute points to a max of 8 points to health, the rest goes to stam -> your skills will deal much more damage.

If you are uncomfortable with the amount of health left add glyphs (they are easier to change once you get used to your less health)

Second thing: wearing heavy armor is fine, but you don#t have enough armor and spell resistance to justify loosing 12% weapon damage from medium armor passives, that can easily exeed your current resistance. Armor and Spellresistance is hard capped at 31k -> so with heavy armor you want to be as close to this as possible (preferable without the need to use templars crappy rune focus). You need to wear 5 pieces of heavy armor, make it purple quality and use the passives from armour skill line -> you should be at a comfortable 26-28k armor- and spell resistance (don't forget templar passive).

Alternatively, have a look at fortified brass (craftable set) for going 5 piece medium and still getting nice armor and spell resistance. Idk wether the 12% more weapon damage from medium will outweigh the 2-3k lower armor and spell resistance / + stustain loss due to heavy attack passive missing and lost damage 5 piece bonus, but for DW users its worth a try. Just don't forget that compared to other classes stamplar is dealing less DPS because of their inefficient sustain (yep, there goes a 5 piece dmg bonus), lack of propper defence ( yep, there goes a 5 piece dmg bonus) and lack of proper synthesis with elemental /physical based damage sets (yep, we also loose DPS right there, compared to other classes).

@Minno has introduced a nice 2H ironblood build ... idk if this might be working for you, as it does require some fidling to get it going. But maybe its a try.

last but not least: keep yourself focussed -> trying to be the jack of all trades usually leads to very ineffective combat strategies in eso. For stamina users (2H/bow/DW) keep stamina your main attribute and only add little health to feel more comfy, invest in weapon damage (unless you go towards a dot/elemental damage build) to keep your direct attacks dealing good damage. In PVP a good armor and spell resistance does help alot -> you want to get as close as possible to cap as you can Imo, i value this even more important then impenetradable, with the exeption of BGs. Yet i know thats flavour and alot of good players will tell you otherwise.

For a good start in PVP: 1) stay near healers; 2) First goal should be to stay alive long enough to get an idea why you failed; 3) Get used to dying alot -> everyone dies in cyro, its nothing special or any measurement of how good you are, especially if you just started.

Good luck, have fun ... and see you on the battlefield!

8-10 points into health, then use lava foot food. This lets you run 3 weapon dmg enchants and either warrior/sperpent mundas (pending sets).

You should aim for 23k health minimum in nCP. Can maybe go to 25-26k health, but it depends on your set at that point. Stats can only help you play; if you can't get used to weird clunky templar playstyle, then stats won't save you.

Link to my build (its not easy though, and in some cases can be weak against certain builds if you can't get used to how templars play in pvp):
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/420312/pvp-stamplar-build-monk#latest

dylaneso wrote: »

Ok so im a two handed orc with 32 stam 32 health. Cp level 256. Every single battle i go into in cyrodill i get killed in what seems to be 1-3 hits, yet when i hit players it seems to not even phase them, im fully buffing myself before fights. Is it just the cp and weapon/armour difference? Or is there something im doing wrong

You wanna know why, its cuz zos loves to *** off both new and veteran players some how. How they do it is beyond me and astonishing me today, 2 words CHAMPION POINTS let me explain them.
If your a new player and just got to level 50 you will be at a disadvantage throughout not just PvP but end game PvE too becuz you dont have the damage, sustain, or survivability of a CP 750 and in PvP it seems like you deal no damage and die instantly to a CP750 and there is almost nothing you can do about it except grind for 2 weeks to get to CP750 where the game actually starts. Zos loves driving away both new and veteran players with this amazing game mechanic that neither side wants, but will they do anything HELL NO lol.
It's the equivalent to zos giving you a middle finger right after you purchased the game. CP is why no new players still in the game or at least 75% of them leave.