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Dark Cloak

Pelican
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I like the concept of the new cloak changes, one for stealth and one for healing, but honestly the healing morph of cloak is TOO WEAK! Only 30-35% of max HP and it doesn't even benefit from healing done passives. It's pretty much a 3-second vigor that is half strength and 3 second minor protection. I understand its meant for high HP builds but you need to have a TON of hp for it to even be mildly effective.

Some possible changes:
-Make it benefit from healing done passive
-Double its total healing done but increase its duration to 8s
-Increase its healing done based on % of missing health
-Reduce its cost to 3k
-Add minor evasion (since you're still sort of cloaked)

I'm not saying implement ALL of these changes, just one or two would be nice.
Edited by Pelican on June 28, 2018 9:17PM
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  • idk
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    It may already benefit from healing boosts as I think GDB does. How much it heals and it's cost are fairly similar to GDB as well and NBs are already has access to major evasion . We do not need to give them both major and minor.
  • Nevasca
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    It costs too much and heals for too little. They can even remove the Minor Protection if they buff to something like 66% of your maximum health. Or they can increase the Minor Protection duration to something like 10s, but even then, I would not place it on my bar.
    Edited by Nevasca on June 29, 2018 2:02PM
  • SmellyUnlimited
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    The thing is, no role outside of a tank would use this ability. For 17k dps, when you need a heal you need it QUICKLY. This is why GDB is so much better -instant heal. True, it’s onlh 33% or missing health, not max, but a good heal now beats a slightly better heal later (and DK’s have near constant Major Mending with Igneous, so GDB can be a massive heal). NB’s don’t have access to major mending outside of Soul Siphon, which no one uses anyway, so the heal is just too little too late.
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    The thing is, no role outside of a tank would use this ability. For 17k dps, when you need a heal you need it QUICKLY. This is why GDB is so much better -instant heal. True, it’s onlh 33% or missing health, not max, but a good heal now beats a slightly better heal later (and DK’s have near constant Major Mending with Igneous, so GDB can be a massive heal). NB’s don’t have access to major mending outside of Soul Siphon, which no one uses anyway, so the heal is just too little too late.

    Its a tank ability lul, made to match templars health shield, and wardens health heal+HoT and sorc's clanfear. GDB them all being instant.
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  • BaneOfBattler
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    delete
  • Biro123
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    If they removed the minor protection, upped the cost, made it unreliable and made it take up 2 bar-slots, you'd have a clanfear.. #nerfsorc.
    Edited by Biro123 on June 30, 2018 12:06PM
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  • Datthaw
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    It's pretty bad, problem is they intoduce a hot into the defile meta. Pretty much every time you fight your healing is cut in half. So pvp it makes the hot really ***
  • Lexxypwns
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    I can get a 9k tooltip on a build with 9k effective spell damage and a damage proc set, it’s not weak.

    Edit: that’s 9k in Cyrodiil
    Edited by Lexxypwns on June 30, 2018 11:45PM
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    It's no Green Dragon Blood, that's for sure.
  • xI_The_Owl_Ix
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    Own wrote: »
    Give me the old Dark Cloak. I bet LESS people are using this skill now.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    No. Dark Cloak is a blessing for NB tanks. (Eventhough 4 ticks is a bit too long imo, should be 3 ticks for the same amount of 4 ticks)

    Edited by xI_The_Owl_Ix on July 1, 2018 5:19AM
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I can get a 9k tooltip on a build with 9k effective spell damage and a damage proc set, it’s not weak.

    Edit: that’s 9k in Cyrodiil

    That's huge . Would really like to hear about this build .
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I can get a 9k tooltip on a build with 9k effective spell damage and a damage proc set, it’s not weak.

    Edit: that’s 9k in Cyrodiil

    That's huge . Would really like to hear about this build .

    I think he's referring to:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415388/clockwork-sload-no-stealth-mageblade-meta-harder-max-cheese/p1
  • Expert
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    I think Cloak should be buffed to have no cost and grant you major protection. If spotted the cloak will release a sonic boom releasing a shield granting the person 5k to his hp. Nowadays too many people find Nightblades and it's disappointing that the purpose of cloak is not working at all. ZOS needs to take a lot of thought into this and deconstruct the flaws and make changes.

    Personally I'm a Sorc and everytime i use cloak with my control key it i always get spotted by everyone. i try dark cloaking and it just never works because there's detect pots ruining my sorc abilities to gank with overload. This is why i finally decided to get on the forums and make a complaint, i can't stand this unbalanced gameplay, these days i just slot on zaans , runecage, and meteor. i have 3 jewleries all for sprinting, my mag sorc is balanced between 40 points in stam and 20+ in magicka, i wanted to kinda reallocate some into hp but i'm heavily depending on dark cloak on my sorc. i just don't understand why everyone can still see me.

    Next time u see me in the fields watch out because i have cloak and will destroy you with my overload but i can dissapear very quickly

  • KingJ
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    I just want the old dark cloak back. Gimme a nerfed version i dont care. Running efficient purge is just not sustainable for medium stamblade.

    edit: when i say old cloak i mean 1.6. nerfed as in 2 dot cleanses, no more debuff cleanse.
    Nah we can't have purge back it would make it to unfair of a matchup against sorcs they won't be able to damage us since we can purge their curse.Plus Runce cage probably gonna be nerfed soon so balanced wise it won't be fair.
  • KingJ
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    Own wrote: »
    Give me the old Dark Cloak. I bet LESS people are using this skill now.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    No. Dark Cloak is a blessing for NB tanks. (Eventhough 4 ticks is a bit too long imo, should be 3 ticks for the same amount of 4 ticks)
    I can't even us it on my tank since my weapon crit is higher than my spell crit.
  • xI_The_Owl_Ix
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    KingJ wrote: »
    Own wrote: »
    Give me the old Dark Cloak. I bet LESS people are using this skill now.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    No. Dark Cloak is a blessing for NB tanks. (Eventhough 4 ticks is a bit too long imo, should be 3 ticks for the same amount of 4 ticks)
    I can't even us it on my tank since my weapon crit is higher than my spell crit.

    You dont need the crit heals though, do you? I tanked every DLC dungeon hardmode without a healer and the healing is great. It could be more bursty with only 3 ticks instead of 4 but thats the only "issue" I see.
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I can get a 9k tooltip on a build with 9k effective spell damage and a damage proc set, it’s not weak.

    Edit: that’s 9k in Cyrodiil
    Agreed.

    Been using it on a stam build and its really not bad at all. I think people envision a burst heal and don't make effective use of an additional HoT to layer on top of Vigor.
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  • KingJ
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    KingJ wrote: »
    Own wrote: »
    Give me the old Dark Cloak. I bet LESS people are using this skill now.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    No. Dark Cloak is a blessing for NB tanks. (Eventhough 4 ticks is a bit too long imo, should be 3 ticks for the same amount of 4 ticks)
    I can't even us it on my tank since my weapon crit is higher than my spell crit.

    You dont need the crit heals though, do you? I tanked every DLC dungeon hardmode without a healer and the healing is great. It could be more bursty with only 3 ticks instead of 4 but thats the only "issue" I see.
    Do I need it yes it should be useful for both tanks not just one type.I have also beat the DLC dungeons without it but its need to be made so the ability is better for both tanking playstyle.
  • SirDopey
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    Expert wrote: »
    I think Cloak should be buffed to have no cost and grant you major protection. If spotted the cloak will release a sonic boom releasing a shield granting the person 5k to his hp. Nowadays too many people find Nightblades and it's disappointing that the purpose of cloak is not working at all. ZOS needs to take a lot of thought into this and deconstruct the flaws and make changes.

    Personally I'm a Sorc and everytime i use cloak with my control key it i always get spotted by everyone. i try dark cloaking and it just never works because there's detect pots ruining my sorc abilities to gank with overload. This is why i finally decided to get on the forums and make a complaint, i can't stand this unbalanced gameplay, these days i just slot on zaans , runecage, and meteor. i have 3 jewleries all for sprinting, my mag sorc is balanced between 40 points in stam and 20+ in magicka, i wanted to kinda reallocate some into hp but i'm heavily depending on dark cloak on my sorc. i just don't understand why everyone can still see me.

    Next time u see me in the fields watch out because i have cloak and will destroy you with my overload but i can dissapear very quickly

    LOL

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  • NyassaV
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    Add 1k or 2k health to battle spirit? (more damage flying around that patch anyways) But yeah I agree that the heal is a little weak
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    Ive tried running it on my stamblade heavy brawler in PvP and its worthless even at 30k HP. Even pairing it with vigor its no where near as usefull as the other morph.

    Crit surge in comparison will heal competitively as good if not better since its a 30 second buff.

    They need to go back to the drawing board.
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    Oh, it’s also usable in medium/large scale whereas the invisibility morph isn’t really useful there
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