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Why people - WHOSE EXPLOITS AND CHEATS ARE VIDEO PROOFED - do not get banned??
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Zoal_AUG✭✭✭Random loading screens are indeed annoying and that together with the lagg are the main reason why i play in IC ...however in IC i find other issues you see....0 -
White wabbit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Girl_Number8 wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »Zos you need to block that wall to put a stop to this
They need to fix those random load screens in cyro~ that's the biggest exploit of all~
That I agree on PvP is a nightmare due to load screens and freezing0 -
Zoal_AUG✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »okay let me put it this way. Forum accounts are not important for me. Im rdy to risk this and all of the rest of my (btw non existent) accounts to put an end to this and many other exploits sadly of those players and acts i do not have a proof at hand.
Yes, congratulations. You've highlighted a once again arguably legitimate use of streak that was already reported and sent to ZOS, along with the aforementioned video. You've risked your only voice on this forum, the voice you want to use to expose and end the exploitative side of our community, on low hanging fruit.
You could've gone out with a bigger bang, you know.
Lol legitimate sorry no one should be able to go back into a safety zone like that, clearly an abuse which the player knew
Arguably legitimate, not straight up legitimate. Until we hear from ZOS on the issue, I can't say that this ranks up with the aforementioned TV exploit, the MoL exploit, or even ambushing up to keep walls. The area designers surely would have placed the walls out of streak range if they hadn't intended we get up there.
I know this, because anywhere ZOS truly doesn't want you to go, such as the player spawns in the same district, is generally covered in an instant-kill zone, is higher than any nearby platforms, or is too far away from any sufficiently tall platforms to streak or jump to.
The design of the area alone lends itself to being an expected use of streak.
It cannot be an insta kill zone since you spawn there when you arrive to the district and it also cannot be taller than this cuz you are not suppsoed to die in fall damage or take a big disadvantage in fight as soon as you land cuz you lost half your hp in fall dmg jsut to be jumped by 4 players right after.
This is 100% not intended and has to be closed.1 -
Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »okay let me put it this way. Forum accounts are not important for me. Im rdy to risk this and all of the rest of my (btw non existent) accounts to put an end to this and many other exploits sadly of those players and acts i do not have a proof at hand.
Yes, congratulations. You've highlighted a once again arguably legitimate use of streak that was already reported and sent to ZOS, along with the aforementioned video. You've risked your only voice on this forum, the voice you want to use to expose and end the exploitative side of our community, on low hanging fruit.
You could've gone out with a bigger bang, you know.
Lol legitimate sorry no one should be able to go back into a safety zone like that, clearly an abuse which the player knew
Arguably legitimate, not straight up legitimate. Until we hear from ZOS on the issue, I can't say that this ranks up with the aforementioned TV exploit, the MoL exploit, or even ambushing up to keep walls. The area designers surely would have placed the walls out of streak range if they hadn't intended we get up there.
I know this, because anywhere ZOS truly doesn't want you to go, such as the player spawns in the same district, is generally covered in an instant-kill zone, is higher than any nearby platforms, or is too far away from any sufficiently tall platforms to streak or jump to.
The design of the area alone lends itself to being an expected use of streak.
It cannot be an insta kill zone since you spawn there when you arrive to the district and it also cannot be taller than this cuz you are not suppsoed to die in fall damage or take a big disadvantage in fight as soon as you land cuz you lost half your hp in fall dmg jsut to be jumped by 4 players right after.
This is 100% not intended and has to be closed.
And as for being placed further away from the nearest building? Or even just closing off the second story of the building nearest to the safe zone? We all know we have too many closed off buildings in the IC, let alone the game at large. The area designers had many reasons to expect people to get up there from adjacent structures before the IC was released, as well as after, and they only designed that around spawn points, not these safe zones up on the district walls. There's a reason for that, considering they were part of the same project and should have been addressed within the same time frame, if they were indeed the same.Edited by Judas Helviaryn on June 28, 2018 6:06AM0 -
OGLezard✭✭✭✭✭
✭A well respected player as far as I know lol see them posting builds and all kinds of stuff on the forums.
For shame though, came here hoping he would reply to the tag he was in but nope. Guess when you are busted in a thread you dont really want to come defend yourself.
Oh well. Known cheaters and exploiters get banned then silently unbanned.
Even KNOWN cheat engine users from back in the day are back lol there is no such thing as permanent ban unless it is a forum account. Sad but so trueEdited by OGLezard on June 28, 2018 1:10PM3 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Unless the player can attack you by entering the safe space this way, I don't see how this is an exploit. There are plenty of areas in the game that can only be accessed by streaking, and I've never heard anyone call them exploits.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE6 -
Zoal_AUG✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Unless the player can attack you by entering the safe space this way, I don't see how this is an exploit. There are plenty of areas in the game that can only be accessed by streaking, and I've never heard anyone call them exploits.
ok ok ok...but where is my insta safety zone as a non sorc player? oh wait...nowhere i cannot streak there i cannot "outplay" ppl like this 7 -
White wabbit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Unless the player can attack you by entering the safe space this way, I don't see how this is an exploit. There are plenty of areas in the game that can only be accessed by streaking, and I've never heard anyone call them exploits.
Sorry but no class should have an advantage like that over the rest7 -
Uviryth✭✭✭✭✭If ZOS would ban exploiters, there would be no one left to play their game, because we all would be banned for animation canceling.0 -
Zoal_AUG✭✭✭didnt they state at one point that however anim cancelling wasnt intended they agree with the use of it and are even amazed by what some players can pull out with it?0
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Uviryth✭✭✭✭✭didnt they state at one point that however anim cancelling wasnt intended they agree with the use of it and are even amazed by what some players can pull out with it?
They stated its not a cheat. Its still an exploit (unintended usage of gamingmechanics) though. If you dont believe it, just look at your character while he animation cancels. Does that look like an intended feature?
I´m not saying its cheating, but lets be realistic about the exploit.0 -
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✭✭✭✭didnt they state at one point that however anim cancelling wasnt intended they agree with the use of it and are even amazed by what some players can pull out with it?
"Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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Zoal_AUG✭✭✭@Klande why are you even upset about this - the alternative would be that they run from you while queuing for a different campaign and then disappear into thin air.
both are annoying but this could be prevented with a wall and u would need to think twice if u wanna queue for another campaign just to avoid clear defeat and then ride back to IC cuz ur exploits dont work anymore0 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If ZOS would ban exploiters, there would be no one left to play their game, because we all would be banned for animation canceling.
Only that zos explicitly stated that they embrace animation canceling now as they deem it a fun addition to the game.
Which means - it wasn´t originally intended this way but now it is part of the game.Edited by Derra on June 28, 2018 8:04AM<Noricum>
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Klande why are you even upset about this - the alternative would be that they run from you while queuing for a different campaign and then disappear into thin air.
both are annoying but this could be prevented with a wall and u would need to think twice if u wanna queue for another campaign just to avoid clear defeat and then ride back to IC cuz ur exploits dont work anymore
It´s quite simple though - if dying is a possibility and the loss of tvs is bigger than what you can earn in the 5 mins it takes to get back to the districts people will port.
As long as this port mechanic exists there is no point in even arguing if porting to a safezone is an exploit or not.
Though i didn´t see a clear defeat in the vid.
I would have done exactly the same tbh - theres no realistic way to kill a NB with eternal hunt in IC if you´re half decent at using line of sight. So they´d be entirely at your mercy if you´d eventually get bored or no.<Noricum>
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Zoal_AUG✭✭✭Anyone would have done the same i suppose...the emphasis of why its unfair its that apparently only 1 class is able to do it...only one class is able to outplay game mechanics and save their stones...all the rest dies and loses everything, although im pretty sure this player is not saving stones he is used to die in unexploitable districts yet she always runs this set its her own choice i suppose but why is she allowed to save everything while everyone else has to die??1
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭all the rest dies and loses everything, although im pretty sure this player is not saving stones he is used to die in unexploitable districts yet she always runs this set its her own choice i suppose but why is she allowed to save everything while everyone else has to die??
But that´s the point. The rest has an addon that allows 1 button queue into a different campaign and does that. The advantage is maybe 3 mins for a sorc streaking to a safezone?
It takes between 5 and 20s to get ported into a different campaign - this timeframe is bypassable for every class/build imo.<Noricum>
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Zoal_AUG✭✭✭Derra i rly dont want to offend you but its clear you are mag sorc main .... im not fancy queuing myself to shor any time this player is zerging me down 5v1 whilst when i have superior number she can just pass to a safety zone and be happy.
And after witnessing this 100+ times through months and then get soul assaulted in the back from the same player while he zergs you down once more with 5 ppl i wonder.....where is my safety zone? is it rly as far as shor?4 -
thegreat_one✭✭✭✭No, klande has a point. you should not be able to go back there to the safety zone, unless ALL classes have the same ease of access.
The fact that you people are saying Klande is at fault for naming this guy is absolute bull crap.
ToS will only apply if you, the player, makes money when Zos doesn't. Then they get upset. And the bans go out. So don't even say he is putting himself at risk because there will be no action taken against him.
Fact is, if Zos were to ban players who took advantage of exploits like this they would have no more $$$. And that is why they don't do that.
Whats probably going to happen is they will say its a feature, or "working as intended".
Sorcs in pvp are the cheesiest class I have ever seen, and when its clear your about to kill them they streak away (or through you cause it stuns) and run like the cowards they are. (NOT because of how much telvar they might lose)
Zos should stick to single player games. They do not support any of the Pvp content in this game because there is no money involved in it.
Edited by thegreat_one on June 28, 2018 8:40AM1 -
Zoal_AUG✭✭✭@thegreat_one i thank you for your contribution however i dont intend to change this forum topic into another "nerf sorc they too cheesy" thread even tho its true, but there is enough of that alrdy0
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✭You should see the alt-f4s when the player in question realizes he's gonna lose all his stones.
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Derra i rly dont want to offend you but its clear you are mag sorc main .... im not fancy queuing myself to shor any time this player is zerging me down 5v1 whilst when i have superior number she can just pass to a safety zone and be happy.
And after witnessing this 100+ times through months and then get soul assaulted in the back from the same player while he zergs you down once more with 5 ppl i wonder.....where is my safety zone? is it rly as far as shor?
I really don´t know - i personally just instaport myself even though i play a magsorc. So i don´t really think it has anything to do with me playing that class.<Noricum>
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idrankyourbeer✭✭✭i dont really mean to be rude but i cant really be bothered to read through 3 pages of this crap to figure whats going on. i watched the video but all i seen was a sorcerer using streak to get away.
where exactly is this exploit? what am i supposed to be looking for here? it looked like he was using streak alot doesnt that cost a crap tonne of magicka after a while i would figure? maybe he chugged some potions or had some crazy regen or set bonus something. im not really sure what im looking at here i dont really understandEdited by idrankyourbeer on June 28, 2018 9:32AM1 -
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✭I dont rly know what the exploit here should be. There are several places in the game only sorcs and NBs can get to, or clever people with horses.
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Zoal_AUG✭✭✭i wanna see u getting on ur horse mid combat to get into safety zone like that just cuz yoou dont have access to streak ^^3
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