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Dodge cheats?
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Stratforge✭✭✭✭I have nothing valuable to contribute but this thread did get me thinking about running both major and minor evasion with crusader/meridias and gaslighting tf out of people.PC NA
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Zeromaz✭✭✭✭Stratforge wrote: »I have nothing valuable to contribute but this thread did get me thinking about running both major and minor evasion with crusader/meridias and gaslighting tf out of people.
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LegacyDM✭✭✭✭✭
✭Last night I was fighting a well known ep guild on na vivec pc. I noticed that my flame clench wasn’t knocking people back. I was casting from stealth and they did not have stun immunity up. They weren’t even dodge rolling. It was just not hitting... This occurred multiple times against many people. I thought it was lag and or server synch issues, but now I am wondering because of your post.Edited by LegacyDM on June 27, 2018 4:46AMLegacy of Kain
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Zeromaz✭✭✭✭Last night I was fighting a well known ep guild on na vivec pc. I noticed that my flame clench wasn’t knocking people back. I was casting from stealth and they did not have stun immunity up. They weren’t even dodge rolling. It was just not hitting... This occurred multiple times against many people. I thought it was lag and or server synch issues, but now I am wondering because of your post.
I remember another post talking about this same occurrence recently
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✭✭✭✭✭Last night I was fighting a well known ep guild on na vivec pc. I noticed that my flame clench wasn’t knocking people back. I was casting from stealth and they did not have stun immunity up. They weren’t even dodge rolling. It was just not hitting... This occurred multiple times against many people. I thought it was lag and or server synch issues, but now I am wondering because of your post.
Flame clench is the easiest thing in the world to tap block, especially when vivec is laggy.PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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✭✭✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »I’m pretty sure there’s a bug with the outfit system that is causing certain players’ roll dodges not to animate as roll dodges. I’ve been in a few situations like OP described - all relatively recently - but it was against people who I knew weren’t cheating/ I asked them how they got 5 shuffle dodges in a row and they said they roll dodged... it clearly didn’t animate on my screen but I believe it.
If you aren’t seeing them roll dodge at all, odds are they’re roll dodging and the animation is buggy.
The people passively dodging stuff issue has been around long enough to think it might be roll dodges not animating.
The real question is are they bugging that out on purpose, as it always "the usual suspects" you see it happening with, or is just an artifact of animation cancelling everything (probably not manually).
Even if it is some kind of broken code i doubt ZOS can even fix it, much less identify the issue. I have no faith in that company.
Hey buddy, nice to see you on the forums. Let me just say that... You rarely get a sensible response in regards to PVP from my experience. So don't be much surprised.
On topic though... I am noticing the same lately. No dodgeroll involved, I have had people dodge 5-10 times in a row. RNG and luck is a factor but I find it hard to believe that it can happen on multiple... several occasions like that.
Speaking of cheats and cheat engine... I have seen a video that is only a couple months old (April) where a guy openly used Cheat Engine (ofc all character info cut out) to disable knockbacks/stuns, move at insane speeds, have invisibility, slow fall to take no fall damage and what not.
People are just way too naive to believe actual cheaters don't exist in the game. Not to mention exploits. There's an entire group/forum of people on the internet you can easily find where people discuss exploitable bugs and offer their cheat engine tables for real $$$.Edited by Nyladreas on June 27, 2018 7:59AM0 -
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✭✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »I’m pretty sure there’s a bug with the outfit system that is causing certain players’ roll dodges not to animate as roll dodges. I’ve been in a few situations like OP described - all relatively recently - but it was against people who I knew weren’t cheating/ I asked them how they got 5 shuffle dodges in a row and they said they roll dodged... it clearly didn’t animate on my screen but I believe it.
If you aren’t seeing them roll dodge at all, odds are they’re roll dodging and the animation is buggy.
The people passively dodging stuff issue has been around long enough to think it might be roll dodges not animating.
The real question is are they bugging that out on purpose, as it always "the usual suspects" you see it happening with, or is just an artifact of animation cancelling everything (probably not manually).
Even if it is some kind of broken code i doubt ZOS can even fix it, much less identify the issue. I have no faith in that company.
Hey buddy, nice to see you on the forums. Let me just say that... You rarely get a sensible response in regards to PVP from my experience. So don't be much surprised.
On topic though... I am noticing the same lately. No dodgeroll involved, I have had people dodge 5-10 times in a row. RNG and luck is a factor but I find it hard to believe that it can happen on multiple... several occasions like that.
Speaking of cheats and cheat engine... I have seen a video that is only a couple months old (April) where a guy openly used Cheat Engine (ofc all character info cut out) to disable knockbacks/stuns, move at insane speeds, have invisibility, slow fall to take no fall damage and what not.
People are just way too naive to believe actual cheaters don't exist in the game. Not to mention exploits. There's an entire group/forum of people on the internet you can easily find where people discuss exploitable bugs and offer their cheat engine tables for real $$$.
People would be surprised at how many "pvp gods" were just using the renamed modded version of CE (and many of them are gone from the game).
As for the naive theory... I don't think the official deniers are naive. I think they are just attacking anything that would bring attention to what they are using and do.
I mean lol... even if you are the best pvper there is, there is no way you can play all day and night and on all servers. You can play this game for years and never see someone if you don't play in same time period or server. So anyone claiming they "know" there is no cheating or hacking is just talking smoke to hide where it really comes from.1 -
LegacyDM✭✭✭✭✭
✭Last night I was fighting a well known ep guild on na vivec pc. I noticed that my flame clench wasn’t knocking people back. I was casting from stealth and they did not have stun immunity up. They weren’t even dodge rolling. It was just not hitting... This occurred multiple times against many people. I thought it was lag and or server synch issues, but now I am wondering because of your post.
Flame clench is the easiest thing in the world to tap block, especially when vivec is laggy.
Yeah but I was casting from stealth? Unless Miats addon has reverted back to giving a warning about stealth attacks it should be unseen and knock back should occur Everytime? Is it seen from stealth?Edited by LegacyDM on June 27, 2018 5:31PMLegacy of Kain
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LegacyDM✭✭✭✭✭
✭rfennell_ESO wrote: »rfennell_ESO wrote: »I’m pretty sure there’s a bug with the outfit system that is causing certain players’ roll dodges not to animate as roll dodges. I’ve been in a few situations like OP described - all relatively recently - but it was against people who I knew weren’t cheating/ I asked them how they got 5 shuffle dodges in a row and they said they roll dodged... it clearly didn’t animate on my screen but I believe it.
If you aren’t seeing them roll dodge at all, odds are they’re roll dodging and the animation is buggy.
The people passively dodging stuff issue has been around long enough to think it might be roll dodges not animating.
The real question is are they bugging that out on purpose, as it always "the usual suspects" you see it happening with, or is just an artifact of animation cancelling everything (probably not manually).
Even if it is some kind of broken code i doubt ZOS can even fix it, much less identify the issue. I have no faith in that company.
Hey buddy, nice to see you on the forums. Let me just say that... You rarely get a sensible response in regards to PVP from my experience. So don't be much surprised.
On topic though... I am noticing the same lately. No dodgeroll involved, I have had people dodge 5-10 times in a row. RNG and luck is a factor but I find it hard to believe that it can happen on multiple... several occasions like that.
Speaking of cheats and cheat engine... I have seen a video that is only a couple months old (April) where a guy openly used Cheat Engine (ofc all character info cut out) to disable knockbacks/stuns, move at insane speeds, have invisibility, slow fall to take no fall damage and what not.
People are just way too naive to believe actual cheaters don't exist in the game. Not to mention exploits. There's an entire group/forum of people on the internet you can easily find where people discuss exploitable bugs and offer their cheat engine tables for real $$$.
People would be surprised at how many "pvp gods" were just using the renamed modded version of CE (and many of them are gone from the game).
As for the naive theory... I don't think the official deniers are naive. I think they are just attacking anything that would bring attention to what they are using and do.
I mean lol... even if you are the best pvper there is, there is no way you can play all day and night and on all servers. You can play this game for years and never see someone if you don't play in same time period or server. So anyone claiming they "know" there is no cheating or hacking is just talking smoke to hide where it really comes from.
Concur. If you a go a quick google search you will find modded cheats that allow you to do teleporting, high jumps, and speed hacking. People are now developing their own non GUI code that is not detected by Zos anti cheat. On reddit, people are selling cheats and advertising services lol.
All popular online games seem to have this problem.
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Nothing's more fun than coming across that one guy who's got half a dozen people attacking them non-stop and somehow manages to evade, dodge, and block everything, and still have stamina left over. Sometimes I legit think the dodge chance from a roll "sticks" longer than it should. So instead of lasting the length of the dodge itself it just kind of lingers.rfennell_ESO wrote: »The real question is are they bugging that out on purpose, as it always "the usual suspects" you see it happening with, or is just an artifact of animation cancelling everything (probably not manually).
With ZOS' server issues and I wouldn't doubt that server still sees the player dodging when they're actually not. Some people end up invisible invisible in PVP. Others die from LOS skills when they're clearly out of range or hiding. There's just a whole lof of weird/questionable things that happen in PVP that make no sense sometimes.0 -
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I believe people cheat in PVP, but at the same time there are so many bugs and server issues in PVP that I always have to question if it's just ZOS being ZOS or if the player is cheating. Most of the time, I put the blame on the servers because we've continually had consistent server problems for years now. Even on Sotha Sil, a server which is usually empty, you get questionable amounts of lag and problems related to it.People are just way too naive to believe actual cheaters don't exist in the game. Not to mention exploits.0 -
Stibbons✭✭✭✭✭You can basically dodgeroll 10 times in a row with stamina woodelf. Without any potion etc.0