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Console needs to be taken down asap (freezes + Updated with message from Zos)
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Ruthven✭✭✭Still no word on when this will be fixed eh? The patch made the game on my PS4 Pro go from freezing a few seconds to stuttering a few seconds. Yay I guess...?
Hopefully they sort this out soon.0 -
Karivaa✭✭✭✭✭
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
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lowlifer✭You mentioned below that these issues are caused by zergsZOS_AlexTardif wrote: »We're currently debugging/fixing crashes caused by:
-Too many character load requests at once (like in Cyrodiil near a zerg)
But a lot of the updates have promoted zerging eg increasing the hardness difficult of npc’s in cyrodiil. Until you lower the player cap for the campaigns there is always going to be over crowding. I believe if this were to happen then imperial city should be excluded from that cap and treated as a completely different zone. Also it would be great if in PvP areas you lowered the amount of members per group. I understand there are still ways around this eg using guild chat to communicate to multiple parties but at least it’s a step to narrowing down over population.
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Zach2322✭✭✭I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.
You mean 5 people throwing time stop on one person to freeze them litterlry in 2 ways is spamming, never would have thought...0 -
Sandman929✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »We went into Sotha Sil, XBox NA, last night and it was better, but just barely. 1 or 2 freezes in about an hour before we got to the last Emp keep, then it was same old same old because the area was packed. Even on an empty server (no bars, any faction), it was too many players in one spot and everything froze up several times during the fight.
The thing is I've had freezes in the middle of nowhere, no other players around, just trying to catch up to my group. Most of the freezes are in big battles tho so probably multiple things causing issues. Last night I had 3 long loads and 1 freeze but that may have been before the theoretical "fix". I'm also on the X so maybe that helps my situation, not sure tho.
Yeah, I've gotten weird freezes too. Just loading into empty keeps far away from anything happening on the map. But definitely more frequent in high traffic.0 -
paulychan✭✭✭✭It’s not just pvp, sadly.
I locked up while selling to a merchant, while running vhrc, while walking to the alchemist station in vvardenfell, while... name it.
Heavy lightning staff locks more often now and also won’t start. I have to try to start a ha over and over before it takes and then it locks and dies a super long attack. Rolling as a one bar is super smart in the game atm. Not logging in even smarter2 -
usmguy1234✭✭✭✭✭
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I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
It's ok. I plan on getting footage this evening to show what I am talking about. Even with equal numbers they still manage to lag everyone out. One of the 5 stars that is a zerg ring leader has a video of him sprinting for 30 seconds and his stamina doesn't move. He uses no skills or speed pots during the time he is sprinting.Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
Eirius- Altmer Magdk
Stormifeth- Altmer Magplar
Disclaimer: My comments are a little sarcasm mixed with truth. If you can't handle that don't respond to me.0 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭usmguy1234 wrote: »
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
It's ok. I plan on getting footage this evening to show what I am talking about. Even with equal numbers they still manage to lag everyone out. One of the 5 stars that is a zerg ring leader has a video of him sprinting for 30 seconds and his stamina doesn't move. He uses no skills or speed pots during the time he is sprinting.
You really need to take off that tin foil hat. There are sets and racial passives that increase movement speed, and the idea that one alliance has figured out how to trigger freezes is laughable. Freezes can happen in the middle of nowhere without another player in sight.
Confirmation bias, look it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias2 -
usmguy1234✭✭✭✭✭
✭usmguy1234 wrote: »
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
It's ok. I plan on getting footage this evening to show what I am talking about. Even with equal numbers they still manage to lag everyone out. One of the 5 stars that is a zerg ring leader has a video of him sprinting for 30 seconds and his stamina doesn't move. He uses no skills or speed pots during the time he is sprinting.
You really need to take off that tin foil hat. There are sets and racial passives that increase movement speed, and the idea that one alliance has figured out how to trigger freezes is laughable. Freezes can happen in the middle of nowhere without another player in sight.
Confirmation bias, look it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Like I said I'm going to get proof and post it on the forum. Btw gaslighting is a thing too.Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
Eirius- Altmer Magdk
Stormifeth- Altmer Magplar
Disclaimer: My comments are a little sarcasm mixed with truth. If you can't handle that don't respond to me.2 -
Karivaa✭✭✭✭✭usmguy1234 wrote: »
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
It's ok. I plan on getting footage this evening to show what I am talking about. Even with equal numbers they still manage to lag everyone out. One of the 5 stars that is a zerg ring leader has a video of him sprinting for 30 seconds and his stamina doesn't move. He uses no skills or speed pots during the time he is sprinting.
Please send me the video! I am now wondering who u are talking about, but I can guess.
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DrSweetazz✭✭✭✭Zergs spam aoes because it's super effective at killing groups of people... negates ulti dump aoe spam is usually how it goes, would you prefer they all melee light attack? They're doing it like they always have. Not because they figured out a way to force crashes.
This isnt an exploit, it's normal gameplay that's causing random people to crash, stop trying to make this thread something it isnt....3 -
Jammer480✭✭✭usmguy1234 wrote: »usmguy1234 wrote: »
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
It's ok. I plan on getting footage this evening to show what I am talking about. Even with equal numbers they still manage to lag everyone out. One of the 5 stars that is a zerg ring leader has a video of him sprinting for 30 seconds and his stamina doesn't move. He uses no skills or speed pots during the time he is sprinting.
You really need to take off that tin foil hat. There are sets and racial passives that increase movement speed, and the idea that one alliance has figured out how to trigger freezes is laughable. Freezes can happen in the middle of nowhere without another player in sight.
Confirmation bias, look it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Like I said I'm going to get proof and post it on the forum. Btw gaslighting is a thing too.
Oooookkkk.....(backs away slowly)Livin' the dream...1 -
Jammer480✭✭✭Can anyone else give some more feedback if there's been any improvement in Cyrodiil today? prefer someone that's not chasing Area 51 ideas...Livin' the dream...0
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Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭usmguy1234 wrote: »usmguy1234 wrote: »
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
It's ok. I plan on getting footage this evening to show what I am talking about. Even with equal numbers they still manage to lag everyone out. One of the 5 stars that is a zerg ring leader has a video of him sprinting for 30 seconds and his stamina doesn't move. He uses no skills or speed pots during the time he is sprinting.
You really need to take off that tin foil hat. There are sets and racial passives that increase movement speed, and the idea that one alliance has figured out how to trigger freezes is laughable. Freezes can happen in the middle of nowhere without another player in sight.
Confirmation bias, look it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Like I said I'm going to get proof and post it on the forum. Btw gaslighting is a thing too.
What is likelier? ZOS releasing yet another poorly tested update that breaks PVP on console, or one alliance figuring out how to freeze other alliances on every server, without their methods becoming common knowledge?
Come on, dude... I’m not gaslighting you. I’m simply pointing out that you’re being paranoid. I’ve been involved in large scale battles where 90% of the players have frozen in place, while myself and several others have not.
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FreshlyB8ked✭✭✭✭usmguy1234 wrote: »usmguy1234 wrote: »
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
I am certain that they also freeze, but there are so many of them that it doesn’t matter because if 20 freeze, 30 more are there to take the keep. They do spam aoes purposely to try to make us freeze. I have witnessed this. With the guards stronger now, it would be easier to defend if we didn’t freeze.usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
It's ok. I plan on getting footage this evening to show what I am talking about. Even with equal numbers they still manage to lag everyone out. One of the 5 stars that is a zerg ring leader has a video of him sprinting for 30 seconds and his stamina doesn't move. He uses no skills or speed pots during the time he is sprinting.
You really need to take off that tin foil hat. There are sets and racial passives that increase movement speed, and the idea that one alliance has figured out how to trigger freezes is laughable. Freezes can happen in the middle of nowhere without another player in sight.
Confirmation bias, look it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Like I said I'm going to get proof and post it on the forum. Btw gaslighting is a thing too.
Shouldn't you be more concerned if you came up on a zerg and didn't get blasted with a ton of aoe's?
lol...what you're angry about is exactly what should happen should you roll up on a large group of enemies.0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Please keep this thread on topic so ZOS will take it seriously.
It is more important to get the problems fixed.Edited by TequilaFire on June 26, 2018 8:55PM6 -
Karivaa✭✭✭✭✭
Duh. But spamming aoes at nothing outside of a keep is done to dc players. Most people know this.DrSweetazz wrote: »Zergs spam aoes because it's super effective at killing groups of people... negates ulti dump aoe spam is usually how it goes, would you prefer they all melee light attack? They're doing it like they always have. Not because they figured out a way to force crashes.
This isnt an exploit, it's normal gameplay that's causing random people to crash, stop trying to make this thread something it isnt....
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭Is it Beth's fault or is PSN down... again...grim_tactics wrote: »Can’t log in on PS4 now.
Working as intended I guess.
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davidj8291✭✭✭✭✭usmguy1234 wrote: »The worst part of this is it's being exploited by a certain alliance on Xbox to render the other two defenseless. They literally roll up 50 strong and spam aoes to crash out the defense. Those who don't crash are steam rolled over. Somehow they are less affected by the crashes... They may lose one or two but not dozens like the defense. You'd think it would affect them just as much but it doesn't.
You aren’t wrong. It’s simple video game physics and if you outnumber 5-1, it’s easy to make the other side crash out and still win the fight. It’s as simple as having a numbers advantage even through a lag out.
Don’t pretend it doesn’t happen, folks. Templars have been used for years to generate more lag, let’s not pretend people aren’t able to use the flaws in the game to their advantage.
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Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭davidj8291 wrote: »Don’t let this thread get buried. We need communication constantly.
I'll help keep it front page.
#howdotheyhavejobs
#makethempaybynotpaying
#getreadytobeletdown2 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭With each other, I'm assuming. That's about all that's happening.Brutusmax1mus wrote: »davidj8291 wrote: »Don’t let this thread get buried. We need communication constantly.
I'll help keep it front page.
#howdotheyhavejobs
#makethempaybynotpaying
#getreadytobeletdown
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Darkestnght✭✭✭✭Slowly but surly I am loosing hope and faith that PvP and other parts of ESO will ever be stable enough again to really enjoy. I am holding on but loosing my grip.Xbox NA - CP1300+
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Sandman929✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »'Member "monthly combat updates"?
Oh yeah...what did we get to? 2 of those?0 -
Sandman929✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Maybe we might have seen "we're thinking about introducing more sets with the oblivion damage that everyone seems to enjoy" in a combat update0 -
grim_tactics✭✭✭✭✭Is it Beth's fault or is PSN down... again...grim_tactics wrote: »Can’t log in on PS4 now.
Working as intended I guess.
Says, cannot connect to server.
Can do everything else on PSN at the moment (browse the store, watch Netflix, and jumped on Overwatch and they’re working fine). Just can’t play ESO.0 -
davidj8291✭✭✭✭✭Monthly combat updates? Whaaaaaaa? They never said that! They’d have done it, right?
Bueller?0
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