Using my previous MMO experience as an example, there was always a significant stat boost between epic (purple) boss drops and legendary / relic (orange / gold) drops. Often times, you had to complete a separate difficulty level for content just to receive the legendary / relic drops.

So I guess the structure of the game is just too different from traditional MMOs. Because you can just throw money at something to upgrade it to gold, they can't make gold stat gain too high. Otherwise, you'd have the trade barons doing the most dps in content, because they can afford to upgrade everything.

UNLESS they changed the way drops work so that vet trials dropped full sets of gold gear. Wait, do vet trials already work that way? I've only ever heard gold rings being talked about, and I've only ever done normal trails. Point being, if vet trials dropped gold gear, I can see this working as a system. Otherwise it'd give wealthy players a distinct advantage.

You really don't. I mean, I understand that you think you want this, but the consequences are not something you'd want to live with.

Significantly increasing the effectiveness of gold gear would push it into a mandatory step before running vet content for much of the community. This means you'd need to fully gold out your gear before many progression guilds would even consider letting you step foot in vet DLC dungeons or vet trials.

Now, the good news is, you can just upgrade your gear. The problem is, with gold upgrades being almost completely optional, the gold cost on PCNA (where things tend to be cheapest) is close to 3.5 million gold. That's assuming you took the time and got all the passives. Upgrading your jewelry alone is just under 3m of that, and this is without considering factors like farming for perfect traits at blue rarity, or the cost of purple upgrade materials.

Gold is a tiny buff. It's a way you can keep advancing your character once you've gotten to endgame. Increasing it to a significant step up in power, would have serious consequences for how the community views gear.

Maybe not armor, but jewelry for sure.

Jewelry improvement mats cost 10x that of anything else, and yet gold jewels give pretty much nothing in actual improvement.

Either the improvement mats need to be reworked, or the gold jewelry stats need to be reworked.

Crafts_Many_Boxes wrote: »

Using my previous MMO experience as an example, there was always a significant stat boost between epic (purple) boss drops and legendary / relic (orange / gold) drops. Often times, you had to complete a separate difficulty level for content just to receive the legendary / relic drops.

So I guess the structure of the game is just too different from traditional MMOs. Because you can just throw money at something to upgrade it to gold, they can't make gold stat gain too high. Otherwise, you'd have the trade barons doing the most dps in content, because they can afford to upgrade everything.

UNLESS they changed the way drops work so that vet trials dropped full sets of gold gear. Wait, do vet trials already work that way? I've only ever heard gold rings being talked about, and I've only ever done normal trails. Point being, if vet trials dropped gold gear, I can see this working as a system. Otherwise it'd give wealthy players a distinct advantage.

Itemization in this game is very bad.the original itemization when it was in beta was far superior in a lot of ways there was a tier beyond gold . They had double enchantments. Non set

Azurephoenix999 wrote: »

Yeah, you heard me. Gold gear is, in most cases, simply not worth upgrading due to the cost of doing it and the miniscule bonuses we get for it.

I believe that if we upgrade our gear from Purple to Gold, ESPECIALLY IN THE CASE OF JEWELRY, we should get a significantly higher boost to the gear's stats.

If the cost remains as high as it is, the increase in stats should be raised to match it.

It hasn't been "worthwhile" upgrading anything but weapons to gold since the game came out.

It is much more obvious with jewelry though... ridiculously so.

It gives one bonus scaling star, just saying.

Phage wrote: »

Maybe not armor, but jewelry for sure.

Jewelry improvement mats cost 10x that of anything else, and yet gold jewels give pretty much nothing in actual improvement.

Either the improvement mats need to be reworked, or the gold jewelry stats need to be reworked.

Or people just don't need to upgrade.

No it shouldn't. This adds parity while still making gold gear the best. And golding out your gear is incredibly cheap right now.

PC/NA prices:

x7 heavy armour = ~300k
x2 metal weapon = ~90k
x7 light/medium = ~200k
x2 wood weapon = ~40k

It only takes around 250-350k to gold out an entire set (other than jewellery, but you can get gold jewllery from trials and Cyrodiil vendor too without having to manually upgrade it).

Prices are higher on consoles because of inflation, but it also means you have more gold because you can sell mats for more.

You realize all that's going to happen by arguing that gold items should be significantly stronger than purple and below, is that ZOS is going to nerf purple and below, and leave gold where it is, right?

Z is thinking: Another day, let's do another nerf! Keep the fodder coming

There should be a more substantial jump between purple and gold.