Stam Warden PVP build/tips and help.

Cyngar
Cyngar
I'm new to the game, I just hit lvl 50 last night. But on my journey I have been pvping alot with my Stam Warden. Howver as I got closer to 50 I got worse. I have been kind of going off of Dottz build for 2h/bow. However 40-49 I found myself at the bottom of the Scoreboard everytime. I feel there is no DMG in his build at all. I had all my gear current to lvl and I never could win a 1v1. Especially with 2h i would get destroyed. bow I could chunk them down some, but 1 heal and they were fine.

What's everyone opinion on 2h/ow for PvP? is there a build to consider besides DOttz build?

I see alcast is 2h/1h-shield, which i am currently lvling up now. But his build seem focused on heals/shields and little dmg. When looking at classes I was told Warden were awesome burst etc. but with the abilities I just don't see how?
  • VaranisArano
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    I played stam warden in Cyrodiil, not battlegrounds, but the key I found for myself doing better was lining up the burst damage. So my shalks, cliff racer, and poison injection all hit decently on their own, but the key was getting them to sync up so that shalks hit at the same time as another skill for ever greater burst damage. Also, spamming poison injection or reverse slice on low health opponents for the execute.
  • CyrusArya
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    I would highly recommend running a shield on stamden. In ESO, each class has different strengths. So if you wish to get the most out of a class, you need to play to those strengths. Well, stamina warden's strength is two fold: it has great burst due to the delayed damage on sub assault, and it is incredibly tanky by way of having the only stamina burst heal in the game and a very strong kit packed with great buffs and utility skills. So naturally, a shield makes those defensive boons even more pronounced.

    I just started playing my stamden and am using the following build. Nothing revolutionary, just a staple stamina brawler spec, but the results have been great. x5 Fury (Jewelry+2 body pieces), x5 7th Legion OR Clever Alchemist (3 body+sword&board), x1 Agility/Asylum/Master 2h, and x2 Bloodspawn.

    This is for solo play ofc. In larger groups, if you're not spinning you're not winning.
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  • Cyngar
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    CyrusArya wrote: »
    I would highly recommend running a shield on stamden. In ESO, each class has different strengths. So if you wish to get the most out of a class, you need to play to those strengths. Well, stamina warden's strength is two fold: it has great burst due to the delayed damage on sub assault, and it is incredibly tanky by way of having the only stamina burst heal in the game and a very strong kit packed with great buffs and utility skills. So naturally, a shield makes those defensive boons even more pronounced.

    I just started playing my stamden and am using the following build. Nothing revolutionary, just a staple stamina brawler spec, but the results have been great. x5 Fury (Jewelry+2 body pieces), x5 7th Legion OR Clever Alchemist (3 body+sword&board), x1 Agility/Asylum/Master 2h, and x2 Bloodspawn.

    This is for solo play ofc. In larger groups, if you're not spinning you're not winning.

    ok, i'll keep an eye on that. I saw alcast shield build, but I need to lvl my shield/1h skill up. I assume this plays well for BGS but in Cyrodiil i want a cleave build?
  • Adenoma
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    I don’t like running 2h because my connection and FPS is too poor to reliably land in a busy visual field. I’ve opted for a pretty cancer combination of troll king, durok’s on 2h back bar, 7th legion, and then master’s axe/dagger.

    Exerts a lot of bleed pressure and steel tornado does a lot to counteract stamblades (which tend to be the best class to counter play stamwarden). Troll king and the new gold food let’s you unslot a burst heal and get your speed from bird of prey. Sustain is weird and takes getting used to - same thing with not really having a spammable. You basically drop bleeds on people to pressure and then you build to a shalk + dawnbreaker bomb to finish. Durok’s gives a good heal cut so that all your damage ends up sticking for a bit if it isn’t lethal.

    Build gives strong solo performance while giving really exceptional small group utility with a bulky DPS that gives defile and troll king. Obviously, change it for larger groups where you’ll have troll king on a healer and a dedicated defile role for a magwarden, but the build packs a lot of value into a pretty compact package.
    Edited by Adenoma on June 26, 2018 10:40AM
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  • Mohegan_Sneak
    first off when you hit 50 you want to make sure you go ahead and push to champion point 160. This is where the gear cap is and you will see a massive increase in your damage/sustain/healing etc.

    I have been playing for about 3 months now, and for me subterranean assault is my bread and butter. It’s a delayed AoE that hits like a truck, lowers enemies resistances by a lot and is easily timed once you get used to it with a dizzy swing/dawnbreaker/reverse slice combos that will delete people.

    I have two different warden builds somewhat copying two guys that I’ve seen make build videos.

    Kodi’s
    Gameplay
    https://youtu.be/fkimRwfmKtU
    Build
    https://youtu.be/eC3_KnUtai8
    Kodi’s Build is a much tankier set up with a smaller learning curve. No range or gap closers. Huge damage and good ulti Regen. If I roll in my guild group I just swap dawnbreaker out for perma frost for Zerg killing.

    Kristofers
    Build and gameplay
    https://youtu.be/xLvjVPOsxdU
    This build is harder to play imo you are much squishier but is a ton of fun. The tankier build of kodis gives me better results than this build, but it’s due to me still learning the game. But it’s so much fun. I also swapped magnum shot out for dizzy swing. Just a personal preference. I also run two different sets on kristofers build due to me mainly playing non-cp atm due to performance of the CP servers. So I run bone pirate/shacklebreaker/bloodspawn so I can still have good sustain without the cp.

    These two builds and gameplay clips helped me understand from a new player stand point about lining up combos, using terrain, not taking uncessary damage, when to be offensive etc etc. Hope this helps!
    Edited by Mohegan_Sneak on June 26, 2018 1:06PM
  • Cyngar
    Cyngar
    Adenoma wrote: »
    I don’t like running 2h because my connection and FPS is too poor to reliably land in a busy visual field. I’ve opted for a pretty cancer combination of troll king, durok’s on 2h back bar, 7th legion, and then master’s axe/dagger.

    Exerts a lot of bleed pressure and steel tornado does a lot to counteract stamblades (which tend to be the best class to counter play stamwarden). Troll king and the new gold food let’s you unslot a burst heal and get your speed from bird of prey. Sustain is weird and takes getting used to - same thing with not really having a spammable. You basically drop bleeds on people to pressure and then you build to a shalk + dawnbreaker bomb to finish. Durok’s gives a good heal cut so that all your damage ends up sticking for a bit if it isn’t lethal.

    Build gives strong solo performance while giving really exceptional small group utility with a bulky DPS that gives defile and troll king. Obviously, change it for larger groups where you’ll have troll king on a healer and a dedicated defile role for a magwarden, but the build packs a lot of value into a pretty compact package.

    cool, i actually had someone recommend something similiar last night in one of my guilds. This is my Fist Character in the game and have only been playing 2 weeks, so i know I have alot to learn. I started lvling up my DW etc last night to try it out. Of course im only CP 50 but he crafted me a nice training set to push my to CP 160 quicker.
  • Vapirko
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    Personally I’ve settled on 7th legion and spriggans. This means you don’t have to put any CP into penetration and if you’re in no CP spriggans is great. You also have a pretty decent stat pool and with the serpent stone I’ve got 1600 recovery not counting the Netch. If I’m solo I’ll use Troll King, and if I’m playing with a healer I’ll run bloodspawn for more ult gen or selenes or something.

    I play a little weird, 2H in front bar as my damage set and dw backbar with my defensive skills plus rending slashes for the year as well as the dot. It’s a better group build than it is solo.

    7th legion and troll king is pretty killer especially if you’re an orc and using the new Artaeum takeaway broth though dubious works fine. SB front bar is probably a good way to start, I just hate running 2H backbar and you absolutely need forward momentum.
  • Cyngar
    Cyngar
    first off when you hit 50 you want to make sure you go ahead and push to champion point 160. This is where the gear cap is and you will see a massive increase in your damage/sustain/healing etc.

    I have been playing for about 3 months now, and for me subterranean assault is my bread and butter. It’s a delayed AoE that hits like a truck, lowers enemies resistances by a lot and is easily timed once you get used to it with a dizzy swing/dawnbreaker/reverse slice combos that will delete people.

    I have two different warden builds somewhat copying two guys that I’ve seen make build videos.

    Kodi’s
    Gameplay
    https://youtu.be/fkimRwfmKtU
    Build
    https://youtu.be/eC3_KnUtai8
    Kodi’s Build is a much tankier set up with a smaller learning curve. No range or gap closers. Huge damage and good ulti Regen. If I roll in my guild group I just swap dawnbreaker out for perma frost for Zerg killing.

    Kristofers
    Build and gameplay
    https://youtu.be/xLvjVPOsxdU
    This build is harder to play imo you are much squishier but is a ton of fun. The tankier build of kodis gives me better results than this build, but it’s due to me still learning the game. But it’s so much fun. I also swapped magnum shot out for dizzy swing. Just a personal preference. I also run two different sets on kristofers build due to me mainly playing non-cp atm due to performance of the CP servers. So I run bone pirate/shacklebreaker/bloodspawn so I can still have good sustain without the cp.

    These two builds and gameplay clips helped me understand from a new player stand point about lining up combos, using terrain, not taking uncessary damage, when to be offensive etc etc. Hope this helps!

    Thank you, I will def check out the builds. being only playing 2 weeks I know I have a ton to learn still. Like I stated I just felt with Dottz build at least with my gear I couldnt get a kill or even hurt someone enough since my bars felt liek I had 2 damage abilities and 1 gap closer. Not to mention I have no sets etc yet. which is what I need to start looking into for CP 160.
    Edited by Cyngar on June 26, 2018 1:20PM
  • Vapirko
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    Cyngar wrote: »
    first off when you hit 50 you want to make sure you go ahead and push to champion point 160. This is where the gear cap is and you will see a massive increase in your damage/sustain/healing etc.

    I have been playing for about 3 months now, and for me subterranean assault is my bread and butter. It’s a delayed AoE that hits like a truck, lowers enemies resistances by a lot and is easily timed once you get used to it with a dizzy swing/dawnbreaker/reverse slice combos that will delete people.

    I have two different warden builds somewhat copying two guys that I’ve seen make build videos.

    Kodi’s
    Gameplay
    https://youtu.be/fkimRwfmKtU
    Build
    https://youtu.be/eC3_KnUtai8
    Kodi’s Build is a much tankier set up with a smaller learning curve. No range or gap closers. Huge damage and good ulti Regen. If I roll in my guild group I just swap dawnbreaker out for perma frost for Zerg killing.

    Kristofers
    Build and gameplay
    https://youtu.be/xLvjVPOsxdU
    This build is harder to play imo you are much squishier but is a ton of fun. The tankier build of kodis gives me better results than this build, but it’s due to me still learning the game. But it’s so much fun. I also swapped magnum shot out for dizzy swing. Just a personal preference. I also run two different sets on kristofers build due to me mainly playing non-cp atm due to performance of the CP servers. So I run bone pirate/shacklebreaker/bloodspawn so I can still have good sustain without the cp.

    These two builds and gameplay clips helped me understand from a new player stand point about lining up combos, using terrain, not taking uncessary damage, when to be offensive etc etc. Hope this helps!

    Thank you, I will def check out the builds. being only playing 2 weeks I know I have a ton to learn still. Like I stated I just felt with Dottz build at least with my gear I couldnt get a kill or even hurt someone enough since my bars felt liek I had 2 damage abilities and 1 gap closer. Not to mention I have no sets etc yet. which is what I need to start looking into for CP 160.

    That’s how everyone feels when they start PvP even with good sets. Don’t worry, don’t get discouraged and keep on practicing, find some friendly people to duel with.
  • BlackLabel
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    I have been having a lot of fun playing a medium, mobile, and high ult I gen Stam Warden!

    5-1-1 medium

    2 bloodspawn
    5 shacklebreaker
    5 werewolf hide (4-5th piece on back bar sword and shield)
    Asylum 2h

    Front bar:
    Sub assault
    Bird of prey
    Forward momentum
    Dizzy swing
    Reverse slice

    Back bar:
    Ice defense skill
    Green lotus
    Shimmering shield
    Spores
    Vigor

    Prismatic enchants on big pieces of armor for more Magicka and health to keep up bird of prey and tankyness cause your in medium
  • Cyngar
    Cyngar
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Personally I’ve settled on 7th legion and spriggans. This means you don’t have to put any CP into penetration and if you’re in no CP spriggans is great. You also have a pretty decent stat pool and with the serpent stone I’ve got 1600 recovery not counting the Netch. If I’m solo I’ll use Troll King, and if I’m playing with a healer I’ll run bloodspawn for more ult gen or selenes or something.

    I play a little weird, 2H in front bar as my damage set and dw backbar with my defensive skills plus rending slashes for the year as well as the dot. It’s a better group build than it is solo.

    7th legion and troll king is pretty killer especially if you’re an orc and using the new Artaeum takeaway broth though dubious works fine. SB front bar is probably a good way to start, I just hate running 2H backbar and you absolutely need forward momentum.

    @Vapirko So, I see a lot of people talk about the set. Where is the best place to see where the drops or crafted?
  • Vapirko
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    Cyngar wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Personally I’ve settled on 7th legion and spriggans. This means you don’t have to put any CP into penetration and if you’re in no CP spriggans is great. You also have a pretty decent stat pool and with the serpent stone I’ve got 1600 recovery not counting the Netch. If I’m solo I’ll use Troll King, and if I’m playing with a healer I’ll run bloodspawn for more ult gen or selenes or something.

    I play a little weird, 2H in front bar as my damage set and dw backbar with my defensive skills plus rending slashes for the heal as well as the dot. It’s a better group build than it is solo.

    7th legion and troll king is pretty killer especially if you’re an orc and using the new Artaeum takeaway broth though dubious works fine. SB front bar is probably a good way to start, I just hate running 2H backbar and you absolutely need forward momentum.

    @Vapirko So, I see a lot of people talk about the set. Where is the best place to see where the drops or crafted?

    Both seventh legion and spriggans sets are dropped in Bangkorai from world bosses, chests and dolmens. You can buy them in guild stores also, or you can buy bangkorai zone boxes from the vendor in cyrodiil. Troll king head piece drops in Blessed Crucible and the shoulder from Glirions undaunted chest.
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