Lower max HP since Summerset

Danksta · June 2018

I've noticed that most of the time my stamplar has lower health since the update. Sometimes it will be what I'd expect but then I hit a load screen or die and it goes back. I've checked to see if my points are still in the passives that would effect this, made sure I'm still running a 6 med 1 heavy setup multiple times. This is the only character I've noticed this on, my stamblade has slightly higher health than last patch (I assume because of the CP increase).

Anyone else running into this issue?

BozzyTheDrummer · June 2018

No issues with my health, but on my main, I play a petsorc, before update 18 and installing Summerset, my magic, without food, was 40k. After finally getting my game to work last night after re-installing, I was playing and my magic without food, is now only 37k. I have made no adjustments to armor/weapons/skills/attribute points. Everything is the same as before the updates.

Danksta · June 2018

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

No issues with my health, but on my main, I play a petsorc, before update 18 and installing Summerset, my magic, without food, was 40k. After finally getting my game to work last night after re-installing, I was playing and my magic without food, is now only 37k. I have made no adjustments to armor/weapons/skills/attribute points. Everything is the same as before the updates.

Pretty sure my max stam is down as well but I wasn't certain.

Anastian · June 2018

If you are referring to Cyrodiil, without any mention in the patch notes Battle Spirit no longer scales with your +%max health

Danksta · June 2018

Anastian wrote: »

If you are referring to Cyrodiil, without any mention in the patch notes Battle Spirit no longer scales with your +%max health

I hadn't thought to mention that, but this is in PvE areas. I'd hate to see what the performance in Cyrodiil is like considering what I've seen so far in PvE.

Integral1900 · June 2018

My stam dk lost a boat load of power, I can account for a 20% drop when they nerfed empower into the ground, as well as yet another two handed heavy attack damage nerf for absolutely no valid reason, but I’m almost 50% down on power and missing about 3000 stamina as well. Wrecking blow has dropped by more than half

Shezzarrine · June 2018

My stamDK was at 16.8k health wearing all medium last patch. This patch it rarely ever goes back up to that point and I have anywhere from 15.8k health to 16.6k. Only PvE, it doesn't make any sense.

Vahrokh · June 2018

My magsorc lost about 500 health (unbuffed) since Summerset. One nerf after another!

testd4n1 · June 2018

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

No issues with my health, but on my main, I play a petsorc, before update 18 and installing Summerset, my magic, without food, was 40k. After finally getting my game to work last night after re-installing, I was playing and my magic without food, is now only 37k. I have made no adjustments to armor/weapons/skills/attribute points. Everything is the same as before the updates.

I too have felt like I'm not getting the same return from my max health max magicka food.

STEVIL · June 2018

Integral1900 wrote: »

My stam dk lost a boat load of power, I can account for a 20% drop when they nerfed empower into the ground, as well as yet another two handed heavy attack damage nerf for absolutely no valid reason, but I’m almost 50% down on power and missing about 3000 stamina as well. Wrecking blow has dropped by more than half

you did not expect to have a loss on damage from basic attacks when they changed to give 2h two set piece count?

really?

Danksta · June 2018

Shezzarrine wrote: »

My stamDK was at 16.8k health wearing all medium last patch. This patch it rarely ever goes back up to that point and I have anywhere from 15.8k health to 16.6k. Only PvE, it doesn't make any sense.

That's very similar to what I have going on. I was at 16.8k in 6 med 1 heavy and now I have 16.4k in the same setup. I'm fairly certain in 7 med I had 16.2k but now it's 15.8k. And every once in a while it will be what I would expect, which is lightly higher than last patch. I even asked a friend to tell me what my health was reading at for him to see if it was just a UI error on my end but he said 16.4k. In the same setup my stamblade has 17.1k on his back bar (no health bonus from class passives).

Is this for all of your toons or just some? @Shezzarrine

I haven't had a chance to check all of mine but have noticed this issue on 1 of 2.

Shezzarrine · June 2018

Danksta wrote: »

Shezzarrine wrote: »

My stamDK was at 16.8k health wearing all medium last patch. This patch it rarely ever goes back up to that point and I have anywhere from 15.8k health to 16.6k. Only PvE, it doesn't make any sense.

That's very similar to what I have going on. I was at 16.8k in 6 med 1 heavy and now I have 16.4k in the same setup. I'm fairly certain in 7 med I had 16.2k but now it's 15.8k. And every once in a while it will be what I would expect, which is lightly higher than last patch. I even asked a friend to tell me what my health was reading at for him to see if it was just a UI error on my end but he said 16.4k. In the same setup my stamblade has 17.1k on his back bar (no health bonus from class passives).

Is this for all of your toons or just some? @Shezzarrine

I haven't had a chance to check all of mine but have noticed this issue on 1 of 2.

Well I only really play two characters besides writs, but idk the exact health on my tank. And I haven't played enough on other characters to know what their max health is. But I will be watching to see if it changes with them now.

olsborg · June 2018

My nb lost 600 hp after summerset, did no changes to the build. Many ppl have reported similar issues, wich are to some extent explained in other threads aswell. This is just one of the other threads: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415393/battle-spirit-not-scaling-with-bonus-health-any-longer

PlagueSD · June 2018

Hmm, I'll have to check when I get home. Good thing I took screenshots of all my character builds using Superstar addon. I have all my pre-summerset stats saved.

MaddPowered · June 2018

There is currently a bug with food where it can sometimes not give you the actual value. It happens if you apply it on a bar where your max stat is lower on that bar. So for example if you had innerlight on your front bar but not on your back bar.

Integral1900 · June 2018

STEVIL wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

My stam dk lost a boat load of power, I can account for a 20% drop when they nerfed empower into the ground, as well as yet another two handed heavy attack damage nerf for absolutely no valid reason, but I’m almost 50% down on power and missing about 3000 stamina as well. Wrecking blow has dropped by more than half

you did not expect to have a loss on damage from basic attacks when they changed to give 2h two set piece count?

really?

How is it logical to nerf two handed again, when it’s clearly underperforming as it is! That makes no dam sense!

Elusiin · June 2018

I had the same problem, I speculated about what was causing the bug on my thread: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5202656#Comment_5202656

I lost 2.5k health, but it happens randomly and I haven't been able to recreate.

testd4n1 · June 2018

MaddPowered wrote: »

There is currently a bug with food where it can sometimes not give you the actual value. It happens if you apply it on a bar where your max stat is lower on that bar. So for example if you had innerlight on your front bar but not on your back bar.

This is an interesting observation. I wonder if this bug would work in reverse. Get the highest possible max stam/mag with sets and jewelry, take food and then switch back to the normal sets you use. I guess this would, however, label it as taking advantage of the bug.

starkerealm · June 2018

Yeah, health is down on my main. I'm not sure which characters are, and which aren't, affected though. As I've got a mix going on.

TheDoomsdayMonster · June 2018

Vahrokh wrote: »

My magsorc lost about 500 health (unbuffed) since Summerset. One nerf after another!

My Magicka Templar lost the exact same amount of Health with the Summerset patch; I went from 26.5k Health down to 26.1k...

jssriot · June 2018

My main, a stamblade, went from 17.3k to 16.2k after Summerset--and I have no idea where that HP went. None of the sets she wears where touched in the recent patches, she has all her passives, nothing about her skills changed. My magsorc's HP is down too. I'm not sure exactly what it was before Summerset, but he's definitely lower in the HP and it shows in tough fights. It's a mystery what happened. A ninja nerf somewhere, or a bug that's preventing stats from calculating correctly. Dunno. But I'm leaving the game once this last month of my sub is up at the end of June, so I haven't done much investigating. i figured it's just another thing ZOS effed up and won't fix and it'll be just one more thing to give me incentive to never come back to ESO because I'm so utterly tired of dealing with Zos and their "Here, let us cram unwanted ads and free stuff down your throat so you don't notice how we screwed up X.Y and Z" BS.

Klixen · June 2018

Never mind, I fixed it

Doctordarkspawn · June 2018

I briefly had this problem with one of my characters. I used normal food bought from a NPC then used my normal tristat. Try that and see if it helps.

swobeasb16_ESO · June 2018

Also missing ~600 hp on my stamblade, which leaves me below 20 K on non-cp

Danksta · June 2018

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

I briefly had this problem with one of my characters. I used normal food bought from a NPC then used my normal tristat. Try that and see if it helps.

Thanks, I'm going to try this when I get home. I'm still having this issue intermittently.

DoccEff · June 2018

Is it possible that undaunted mettle is not working anymore?

Danksta · June 2018

DoccEff wrote: »

Is it possible that undaunted mettle is not working anymore?

It does seem to be the amount of stats I'm missing... when I'm missing them.

Grakdrogru · June 2018

If you use food/drink or consume a potion on the bar where a poison is equipped, its bugged.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/417648/health-foods-not-working-right#latest

STEVIL · June 2018

Integral1900 wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

My stam dk lost a boat load of power, I can account for a 20% drop when they nerfed empower into the ground, as well as yet another two handed heavy attack damage nerf for absolutely no valid reason, but I’m almost 50% down on power and missing about 3000 stamina as well. Wrecking blow has dropped by more than half

you did not expect to have a loss on damage from basic attacks when they changed to give 2h two set piece count?

really?

How is it logical to nerf two handed again, when it’s clearly underperforming as it is! That makes no dam sense!

1 - it was not "clearly underperforming" everywhere for everyone so... not a thing.

2 - Adding another set bonus piece raises performance and based on whatever their data said about its performance with 1 pc count, it was obvious that singular advantage would be a key place to go for pruning back as offset.

Now, maybe to you this makes no sense, but it was predicted by those who were not in favor of adding it to 2pc well before the change was made. While many others in the pro-12-count crowd gave lip service to "yeah and rebalance too" now it seems that was more lip service since as they did rebalance some parts - thats now just another point of argument.

Its almost like the amount of whining is a universal constant.