Do NOT install the Mojave Beta

Carmina · June 2018

Trying to not violate the NDA, but: Do not install Mojave. ESO will not work. As in not playable. Apart from all the OpenGL stuff, it will just not be playable. I tried. It was bad.

C.

Carmina · June 2018

And, because I just remembered... There are some bleak times ahead, and it would be a good thing if Zen would post regarding this. Because if they do not change the client, this is pretty much the kill shot for ESO on Mac.

- OpenGL Support being removed -> poor frame rates drop to even poorer values -> Rewrite for Metal2 necessary
- Only true 64 bit apps will be supported -> ESO is at least in parts 32 bits
- Right now ESO is not playable with Mojave (I did not try after yesterday's maintenance)

So yeah, lots of things to do, and it would be nice if we would get some kind of feedback here, like "Metal2 is in the pipeline" or whatever, because right now it looks like the only way to go for us is to go get a Windows computer.

C.

rluke · June 2018

A Official Feedback would be nice, is ZoS planning a Metal Port ?

Merlin13KAGL · June 2018

Wow, that's a pretty huge undertaking.

Slick_007 · June 2018

apple dont support games. what else is new

Loom · June 2018

Carmina,

I wouldn't confuse the OpenGL deprecation with trying to play the game on Beta 1 of a new version of macOS. Apple does not guarantee that anything will work; in the same NDA you refer to, you acknowledged that this is the case when you installed the beta.

As for unplayable, I'd suggest that you use a mouse, and go to Preferences -> Accessibility -> Mouse & Trackpad and then check the "Ignore built-in Trackpad ..." option. This should leave the game playable.
Note: you need to turn this one before starting the game.

I'm sure Apple will fix the trackpad driver issues before Mojave is out of beta.

Loom

GandalfTheGuardian · June 2018

ESO is running fine on my MacBook Pro and on my MacPro with macOS 10.14 Beta (18A293u)

To avoid the rotating camera behaviour, you need to grant the Zenimax Online Studio Launcher 'Accessibility' in the Security & Privacy' Control Panel -> Check the box for the ESO Launcher in the Privacy Tab.
OSX will ask you for that permission when you start the ESO launcher the first time. If you missed it, you can tick the box in the Security & Privacy Control Panel later. You need to restart the ESO Client the make that permission effective.

With that, I do not have an issue with the trackpad on my MBP.

However, I still have the issue that ESO crash on startup on my Mac Pro, unless I limit the number of cpus:
-> SET MaxCoresToUse.4 "6" in ~/Documents/Elder Scrolls Online/live/UserSettings.txt
Todays patch v4.0.10 did not solve that issue

idk · June 2018

Zos has no reason to give an official response. It is a beta test of someone else's OS that is being discussed.

When you do a beta, especially of an OS, you are asking for issues to crop up. Heck, you are asking for other software to not work. It is for the developer to get feedback and for their partners to learn more as well.

So again, do not expect an official reply from Zos. No reason for them to give one on another companies beta.

GandalfTheGuardian · June 2018

Sorry for not being clear enough.
What I was saying OSX 10.14 Beta has no Issue with ESO, if you install it correctly and vice versa.

ESO has an open issue with multi core systems of any OSX version.

ZOS_GinaBruno · June 2018

Well, there's good news and bad news. The good news is we'll have a fix for this issue by time Mojave is released to the public. The bad news is the issue will persist while Mojave is in beta.

Carmina · June 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Well, there's good news and bad news. The good news is we'll have a fix for this issue by time Mojave is released to the public. The bad news is the issue will persist while Mojave is in beta.

Ja, that was helpful. This issue. We were talking about a couple.

Good news with the trackpad, just giving ESO permission in Accessibility did not fix my issue.

Loom, thanks for being a smartass, I know it's a Beta and I know no one guarantees. I am not angry about it not working. I was just warning to not install it. I sincerely hate people who try to get "points" by making useless comments and being mature...

Regarding the official response... No one HAS to post one. But since the news that Apple will remove OpenGL is out there, I thought it would be smart if they did. That's all. Unfortunately, their official post was as useful as a fork while eating soup.

Thanks for the comments though

C.

Carmina · June 2018

OK, so I tested, and the truth is actually a mix.

1. ESO does work with Mojave Beta
2. It's true the "Ignore trackpad when.." option has to be set, as stated by @Loom
3. The Checkbox in Privacy to enable the ESO launcher to control the system also has to be checked, as stated by @Gandalf

There seems to be no issue with an eGPU and frame rate so far.

C.