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This forum layout is awful, no offense. It really is.

Vectur
Vectur
Hey guys. As an avid forum poster (I post on forums a lot, frequent MANY forums, and have thousands of posts on each), I have to stand up and say something.

This layout is so awful. It's difficult to navigate, cringeworthy almost. It's difficult to read because of the color contrast. It's irritatingly difficult to find what you're looking for, and is not user friendly AT ALL.

I've seen many people complain about this in various threads, but I feel we need a thread to voice our dislike of the forum layout. I really don't see why it varies so differently from the TES forums (Forums.Bethsoft.Com), and I love that layout.

Also, this forums mobile version is doubley awful to navigate through. It's nigh impossible to find stuff when you're on a mobile device. It's awful, no offense.

I say all of these things because I really want to call this place home, but I avoid it like the plague because of one reason: the layout.

Thanks.
  • Vectur
    Vectur
    I find it extremely unlikely that no others feel this way!
  • tattila
    tattila
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    i do
  • Cosmiq
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    I completely agree, it's crap.
  • Valerien
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    I agree it needs a major rework.

    At the moment it may work in their favour, I'm waiting on the patch and looking to see what is going on and its hard to find what topics go in what sections. Not that I find the look is bad just the lay out and navigating it is just bizarre.
  • Vectur
    Vectur
    Yeah, bizarre is a great word to describe navigating this forum. It's *so* confusing, where they put their header updates, it's just...ugh. It makes me cringe.
  • murklor007neb18_ESO
    Agreed.

    The actual thread design and features is nice (easy to see which ones you've read and which got new replies though I am missing a forum->subforum->etc index at the bottom just like the top one) but the overall layout for the forums is HORRIBLE. You cant go around mixing languages ffs!

    IMO it need to be redone to be Language (have a default option please)->Top-to-bottom list of main forums->Possible subforums for each main forum.

    Seriously, the one over at ZOS who approved this and thought it was good design should get a slap in the face.
    Edited by murklor007neb18_ESO on April 3, 2014 5:21AM
  • Detri50
    Detri50
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    I started a thread about this earlier....There have been a few before mine and a lot more after it. I 100% agree though. I'd like to see a General Discussion forum too. That way the haters have a place to ***. And keep the Information forums a little more clean.

    I do appreciate having a forum...but, I do try my best to stay calm and sift through the garbage to find information I want rather than posting another thread, if I can help it.
  • KariTR
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    I don't find navigation to be an issue - just click on the last tag, not an orange one, to stay in the sub forum you are in. Otherwise, click on 'forums', to go to a new sub forum.

    The search function could possibly be better. I haven't used it myself but, assuming the OP did a search to see if "a thread to voice our dislike of the forum layout" and didn't find the many others that already exist, then yes, it could definitely be improved.
  • Dracovar
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    Agreed. These forums are bad.
  • glamorousskies
    It's got an abnormal layout.
  • ZOS_TristanK
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    Hi, folks. Thanks to all of the constructive feedback about our forums, we're currently making some changes to them. The maintenance is going on right now, though you should be able to continue posting as usual.

    Keep your eyes peeled for changes soon!
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  • Vectur
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    Thank you for your response, @ZOS_TristanK‌! I appreciate that. It's good to know that the developers and mods are paying attention to player feedback.
  • Sakiri
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    Hi, folks. Thanks to all of the constructive feedback about our forums, we're currently making some changes to them. The maintenance is going on right now, though you should be able to continue posting as usual.

    Keep your eyes peeled for changes soon!

    The mobile layout sucks. Font is too small to comfortably touch with adult lady fingers on a smaller device(Motorola Electtify).

    The forum(web) font is awful. The color contrast is boring and it may or may not be useful to separate languages to a tree of EN, one of DE and one of FR, if only to avoid nesting navigation confusion.

    The meny bar at the top of the mobile page is awful. The menus are too close together and hard to tap in vertical orientation.

    Replying to a thread, creating a thread and selecting one without tapping anything else is a pain in the tuckus.

    All I can think of atm.

    Oh, and mobile occasionally widens to require scrolling in vertical orientation. Annoying.
  • Basil_oz
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    Agreed. Thankfully, even as I post, they are refurbishing the forum. Yipee!

    It took a marathon to be able to register for this forum. Started to register: got to the page that asked for an invitation code. Thought to myself "what the **** is an invitation code?" Looked all around the forum and ESO... no information regarding an invitation code. Could not even simply ask the question on the forum as a guest.

    Had to google and check other sites if there was an answer. Found like minded souls who couldn't get an answer either. Had to put in a ticket with support to ask them (and they did get back to me fairly quickly). Was told to look in my spam folder. I knew that it wouldn't have gone there as the activation and confirmation emails came to my in box OK.

    Decided to look at deleted. Surely, there it was. It had come in French with a link. I'm a bloody Aussie! The only thing French that I know are the fries at McDonalds! So I had deleted it as a spam email along with the Russian brides on offer and the erectile dysfunction remedy that I may need if I was going to accept the Russian brides!

    Surely there has to be some method of consistency when it comes to the language used.

    Well, I'm on now and this is my first post. Hopefully the first of many.
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  • Sakiri
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    Oh and currently mobile cant edit posts or navigate to other forums because the home link takes you to the maintenance notice.
  • Vectur
    Vectur
    I will add that there needs to be a language selection IMO, not have every single language a different forums. there is so much clutter.
  • Food4Thought
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    The design worked in BETA simply because we had so little time to generate posts. They usually shut it down at the same time they shut down the beta access. But now ... yeah I have to agree it needs tweaking.
  • Stautmeister
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    THIS FORUM LAYOUT IS AWFUL, NO OFFENSE. IT REALLY IS.
    it always makes me giggle when people say, "No offense". Off course its offensive :)
    But yea people already commented on the layout, multilinguality etc. Looking forward to their updates!
    An orc marrying a wood elf?! Enjoy your Borsimer mutants!
  • ReindeerEmu
    ReindeerEmu
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    I have to agree with the rest. The different languages on the same page with no demarcations through me off completely. It still does. I'm really waiting for forums 2.0.
  • Artemiisia
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    They should set it up with 3 separate forums, one for each languages and then sub forums for race, skills, craft, guides, and a few more, that'll make it so much easier to browse.

    Its so difficult to find anything, and I have even stopped trying

    As it sits right now, im finding myself looking to other places to find the information/help I need to progress in the game.

  • Firmament
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    I like the color. Period. I have tried to be positive but the forums is really really crap. Free to play obscure games have better forums. Maybe Hello kitty online has better forums. It is a pain in ... to find something. It is really a labyrinth. It is more annoying than being cc lock in pvp.
    Please guys change it!
  • steveb16_ESO46
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    It needs a General Discussion Forum for each language and about two dozen less sub forums.
  • Staal
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    I agree.
    The whole layout is truly annoying, especially getting both french and german posts up, if you press EN at the top, you should only see EN threads, it's incredibly confusing to actually go somewhere and see this mixed language thing.
    I am European myself, so no disrespect meant, but it is so annoying.
  • Arkhaniir
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    I like the colors but yes layout is confusing. I can't find the threads I found yesterday for example. :smiley: There are German and French posts at the same time which confuses me as someone with focusing problems.
    Yesterday there was Guild Recruiting, Add-On etc categories. Can't find them today. I am propably missing something but still this layout causes me to miss something.
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  • Artemiisia
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    lol yeah, the only way I was able to actually find this thread again, was because I had posted it in, and under profile I can find my previous comments.

    That will end with, Ill leave a "empty" comment in threads if its stays like this, just so I can find the once again, I need to be able too later on, which kinda blows
  • MorHawk
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    The main problem is that there's no 'Participated Discussions' option. Which is weird, as it was there in the beta forums. The combination of different languages isn't really a huge deal. I also find though that every time you go to a new page, 6-7 topics from the last page show again. One would be sufficient, two amply so. Any more is seemingly deliberately confusing.
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  • Detri50
    Detri50
    Soul Shriven
    Hi, folks. Thanks to all of the constructive feedback about our forums, we're currently making some changes to them. The maintenance is going on right now, though you should be able to continue posting as usual.

    Keep your eyes peeled for changes soon!

    I like the changes so far. I appreciate the time you all have set aside. I know there is a lot of work to be done for launch. It's much easier to navigate now.

    Thank you. I'm looking forward to more changes!
  • theyancey
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    I have been playing these games for over a quarter century since the days of BBS dial up. This is sadly one of the worse forums I have ever had the displeasure to attempt to read. The template used for the beta forums were great. I do not understand why something that was not broken has been turned into this trash heap. I do hope that outlets like IGN and PC Gamer will weigh in on this monstrosity. Moving forward into the post launch era this will become the ESO front page. It is what new players will see and judge the game by. They will see a forum that reeks of fail, of uber fail at that. This claptrap will cost ZOS subscriptions. I care too much about this franchise to see it sullied by this abomination. I certainly hope that the powers that be will rectify this hideous error. After all, how hard could it be to simply revert to the beta template?
  • Vectur
    Vectur
    What changes have been made; I can't notice anything differently about the layout, which is, IMO, the problem, considering every post made in this thread.
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