If there was a pvp only server, would you participate?

eso_lags · June 2018

I have a lovely idea to fix the performance. Give us 2 servers.. Just like we have EU/NA, we can have PVP/PVE. Example, NA/PVP or NA/PVE.. But unlike EU/NA you could change between as you please and keep your stuff/characters... The only difference is one would have player combat on and one would have it off... I think this would fix things a lot and spread out players.

The PVE server could keep cyrodil and bgs for structured PVP and the other server would have no bgs or cyrodil.. Just open world. The biggest thing this game lacks (besides solid performance) is risk. There is no risk in the elder scrolls online.

Even still there wouldn't really be much risk in being on this server except the fun of doing everything in game knowing you could be attacked at any minute.. And you might say "but what about dungeons/trials/group stuff?" Easy. Players in groups cannot attack people in their group... But i think this would lead to a lot of interesting situations...

Like maybe a guild is hanging out in riten and are killing everyone that comes in... Maybe they want to hold riften as their own.. And maybe you have some business in riften (questing or otherwise).. Then you'd either have to get your friends/guild to come fight them, kill them yourself, or avoid it.. Or leave the server.. Or maybe someone is following you stealing your nodes while you're farming.. Problem solved.. Or maybe something else besides my idea, i dont know. I just think this game would benefit from pvp having some risk, of any kind, to it..

Archeage was the funest mmo ive ever played.. Because of the risk involved. If the devs didnt destroy is with p2w and other issues i would still be playing it.. Even WOW has pve and pvp servers... And even PVP RP servers.. Runescape.. Albion.. These games are so fun because of the risk involved.. But everything has its flaws. Thoughts?

ReverseVenom · June 2018

Yes

Love PvEvPvP, definitely would participate. Imperial city is all I got atm and that's dead af

DamenAJ · June 2018

No

Honestly, I think it'd be a good idea to have a pvp server and a pve server. But no, I wouldn't play on the PVP server. I hate PVP.

But it would help the poor PVPers who don't really get a lot of content.

But, if you ever played WoW PVP servers, you'll find they can get stupid frustrating, with people just waiting around to gank others, people just hovering over your corpse to kill you again, people getting friends to come kill you because they dislike you...

Klixen · June 2018

No

I'm a PvE carebear, so no, I would never play in a PvP server.

But I love the idea of two separate servers. But I'd like the PvE server to be pure PvE. I want to visit Cyrodiil and the Imperial City but I never will because of the current PvP.

kargen27 · June 2018

No

The PvP player base is diluted enough with what we have now. Scattering PvP'rs across the entire game would make for some really boring PvP.

And you think players are upset now just think how much they would complain if they had to log into a different PvP only server to try and get Caltrops or Tel Var stones. The grief would be mighty.

Doctordarkspawn · June 2018

No

I love the idea of it so that these people can have a server all to their own and likely improve performance for both sides.

eso_lags · June 2018

Yes

DamenAJ wrote: »

Honestly, I think it'd be a good idea to have a pvp server and a pve server. But no, I wouldn't play on the PVP server. I hate PVP.

But it would help the poor PVPers who don't really get a lot of content.

But, if you ever played WoW PVP servers, you'll find they can get stupid frustrating, with people just waiting around to gank others, people just hovering over your corpse to kill you again, people getting friends to come kill you because they dislike you...

Yah i figured there are more PVE players on the forums (and probably in game) than there are PVP players... So im sure there will be more no votes than yes... I just want to see if theres a decent amount of people who would entertain it..

But even still, i feel like pve players could find fun in this... Everyone needs some excitement in their lives.. And thats a nice way to look at it, coming from a pve player

QUEZ420 · June 2018

No

Nope. That's why Imperial City is dead af rn....

Thunderknuckles · June 2018

No

Absolutely no way. I have spent a lot of time in MMO's on PvP servers and they are, every single time without fail, a griefer's paradise. There's a good reason why PvP servers become ghost towns within a few months. I say this as a PvP'er.

Edited for the ever occurring typo.

MisterBigglesworth · June 2018

Yes

WoW is adding this exact feature next expansion.
You get +15% XP in "Warmode" as it's called. No more separate PvE/PvP servers, you can only toggle it in your capital city.
ESO should do the same.

The one thing I would add is: you're relatively safer in your own faction's zones because the NPCs are on your side, for lore purposes.

eso_lags · June 2018

Yes

kargen27 wrote: »

The PvP player base is diluted enough with what we have now. Scattering PvP'rs across the entire game would make for some really boring PvP.

And you think players are upset now just think how much they would complain if they had to log into a different PvP only server to try and get Caltrops or Tel Var stones. The grief would be mighty.

No, I meant something like a different server where it was ONLY pvp but no cyrdoil/bgs... The people that want cyrodil/bgs would stay on the regular server... I guess i should have worded it better... Not a pve server and a pvp server.. A "regular eso server" and then a pvp server. Strictly for open world with no cyro or bgs.

Anyway another thing i wanted to see is if anyone else has any ideas on how to add some risk or excitement to pvp in this game.

MattT1988 · June 2018

No

itzTJ wrote: »

DamenAJ wrote: »

Honestly, I think it'd be a good idea to have a pvp server and a pve server. But no, I wouldn't play on the PVP server. I hate PVP.

But it would help the poor PVPers who don't really get a lot of content.

But, if you ever played WoW PVP servers, you'll find they can get stupid frustrating, with people just waiting around to gank others, people just hovering over your corpse to kill you again, people getting friends to come kill you because they dislike you...

Yah i figured there are more PVE players on the forums (and probably in game) than there are PVP players... So im sure there will be more no votes than yes... I just want to see if theres a decent amount of people who would entertain it..

But even still, i feel like pve players could find fun in this... Everyone needs some excitement in their lives.. And thats a nice way to look at it, coming from a pve player

Not everyone needs PVP for this.

eso_lags · June 2018

Yes

Thunderknuckles wrote: »

Absolutely no way. I have spent a lot of time in MMO's on PvP servers and they are, every single time without fail, a griefer's paradise. There's a good reason why PvP servers become ghost towns within a few months. I say this as a PvP'er.

Edited for the ever occurring typo.

Im assuming you mean wow and i dont think thats a very good example because of the number of servers.. The difference is in the games. Some games, like archeage for example, have a few no pvp zones and then the rest of the worlds are pvp. A server like that would be cool..

But even still you arent wrong about griefer's. But thats the fun in it. Finding ways around it with your friends. Personally i think wow has to many servers. But if you mean another game let me know because theres a few games that i think do it right, even without different servers.

eso_lags · June 2018

Yes

MisterBigglesworth wrote: »

WoW is adding this exact feature next expansion.
You get +15% XP in "Warmode" as it's called. No more separate PvE/PvP servers, you can only toggle it in your capital city.
ESO should do the same.

The one thing I would add is: you're relatively safer in your own faction's zones because the NPCs are on your side, for lore purposes.

Really? I dont really keep up to date on wow much these days but thats cool if its true.

eso_lags · June 2018

Yes

MattT1988 wrote: »

itzTJ wrote: »

DamenAJ wrote: »

Honestly, I think it'd be a good idea to have a pvp server and a pve server. But no, I wouldn't play on the PVP server. I hate PVP.

But it would help the poor PVPers who don't really get a lot of content.

But, if you ever played WoW PVP servers, you'll find they can get stupid frustrating, with people just waiting around to gank others, people just hovering over your corpse to kill you again, people getting friends to come kill you because they dislike you...

Yah i figured there are more PVE players on the forums (and probably in game) than there are PVP players... So im sure there will be more no votes than yes... I just want to see if theres a decent amount of people who would entertain it..

But even still, i feel like pve players could find fun in this... Everyone needs some excitement in their lives.. And thats a nice way to look at it, coming from a pve player

Not everyone needs PVP for this.

indeed, you arent wrong.

Thunderknuckles · June 2018

No

itzTJ wrote: »

Thunderknuckles wrote: »

Absolutely no way. I have spent a lot of time in MMO's on PvP servers and they are, every single time without fail, a griefer's paradise. There's a good reason why PvP servers become ghost towns within a few months. I say this as a PvP'er.

Edited for the ever occurring typo.

Im assuming you mean wow and i dont think thats a very good example because of the number of servers.. The difference is in the games. Some games, like archeage for example, have a few no pvp zones and then the rest of the worlds are pvp. A server like that would be cool..

But even still you arent wrong about griefer's. But thats the fun in it. Finding ways around it with your friends. Personally i think wow has to many servers. But if you mean another game let me know because theres a few games that i think do it right, even without different servers.

Never played WoW. It was Rift and SWToR. Always the same thing. People head right back to the low level zones and just gank for hours. It's actually very dull to most. Only a handful of people really enjoy it, and they're usually the sadistic type. lol In ESO I understand that there really aren't any low level zones, but the end result would be the same. People at CP cap stomping new player's heads into the ground for hours or until they log in frustration. It's never different.

VaranisArano · June 2018

I enjoy organized PVP in Cyrodiil. I put up with gankers in Cyrodiil. I don't generally enjoy the ganking, tower farming, or dealing with gankers and tower farmers in Cyrodiil so I don't expect I would enjoy dealing with gankers and small farming groups in the open world. Or the duelers that would infest locations like the Undaunted camps.

idk · June 2018

No

People tend to not want to leave groups they are playing with.

Not to mention that it just will not happen. Zos will not double their servers and split the players amongst them. Just not good business sense.

BTW, SWTOR had a flag system that failed. It could be glitched to flag a player that was not flagged. They ended up, after having to merg servers yet again, creating a different system that separated into different instances those flagged from not flagged.

Though that would mean both more hardware for Zos and creating a flagging system which they have already chose to not do.

AlienatedGoat · June 2018

No

*** no.

If there is ever a PvP server, they better make Cyrodiil and IC PvE for us.

Wolfpaw · June 2018

Yes

I would pay up and transfer to a PvP server. I want a Bounty System though.

Killing another player X amount of levels and/or gear ilevel will result in a PvP stacking bounty, the PvP stacking (per kill & attack) bounty will reduce XP, Gold, Stat Recovery, Damage by X amount percent & time.

Killing another player with a Bounty is a free kill with a smile, maybe a small perk "Purse of Gratitude".

Could have some fun Crown Store vanity items: emotes, Bounty Glow/flag, bloody footsteps, bounty collector glow/flag, etc...
Make it fun for both sides.

Could add keeps that would give a small pve bonus to the winning faction players in that zone, nice spots for conflict.

eso_lags · June 2018

Yes

idk wrote: »

People tend to not want to leave groups they are playing with.

Not to mention that it just will not happen. Zos will not double their servers and split the players amongst them. Just not good business sense.

BTW, SWTOR had a flag system that failed. It could be glitched to flag a player that was not flagged. They ended up, after having to merg servers yet again, creating a different system that separated into different instances those flagged from not flagged.

Though that would mean both more hardware for Zos and creating a flagging system which they have already chose to not do.

Trust me i know zos wont do it. They wont do anything much tbh.. But i think you are over estimating it. Plenty of games, like wow, have multiple servers.. With pvp and pve.. Idk why it would be such a stretch for them to do it. But again i know they wont ESP if its for pvp.

eso_lags · June 2018

Yes

Phage wrote: »

*** no.

If there is ever a PvP server, they better make Cyrodiil and IC PvE for us.

Why?? pve is literally 90% of the world/game.. But i can see the pros and cons of IC having a pve system of some sort.. i just dont know if it would hurt it to bad.

Jayman1000 · June 2018

I would love it if we had pvp servers where pvp could be anywhere bar some few sanctuary zones, like wow. But it's not gonna happen, just forget it

eso_lags · June 2018

Yes

Thunderknuckles wrote: »

itzTJ wrote: »

Thunderknuckles wrote: »

Absolutely no way. I have spent a lot of time in MMO's on PvP servers and they are, every single time without fail, a griefer's paradise. There's a good reason why PvP servers become ghost towns within a few months. I say this as a PvP'er.

Edited for the ever occurring typo.

Im assuming you mean wow and i dont think thats a very good example because of the number of servers.. The difference is in the games. Some games, like archeage for example, have a few no pvp zones and then the rest of the worlds are pvp. A server like that would be cool..

But even still you arent wrong about griefer's. But thats the fun in it. Finding ways around it with your friends. Personally i think wow has to many servers. But if you mean another game let me know because theres a few games that i think do it right, even without different servers.

Never played WoW. It was Rift and SWToR. Always the same thing. People head right back to the low level zones and just gank for hours. It's actually very dull to most. Only a handful of people really enjoy it, and they're usually the sadistic type. lol In ESO I understand that there really aren't any low level zones, but the end result would be the same. People at CP cap stomping new player's heads into the ground for hours or until they log in frustration. It's never different.

Not if 20 mid range cp players grouped up and killed those gankers.. Idk i just feel like it would make things a lot of fun in game.. Or at least something new for pvp.. I mean the same old cant continue forever. If pve players only had a few dungeons and a trial it would get boring real quick... Cyrdoil is boring. IC is AWESOME but dead for some reason. And bgs is no CP and far from perfect.

I feel like pvp players need some risk added. Or something new to achieve. Siegeing keeps and taking towns/districs is just AP farming. For the first few years, great, but now i think we need a new zone. Or something like this that takes the old zones and makes some of them pvp. But i get where you're coming from.. I do.

templesus · June 2018

No

I PvP 99% of my time spent on this game.

I hate this idea.

Just open world? You realize that a fly would live longer then that server right? People don’t want to log in an get zerged, atleast I dont, and if PvE keeps BGs and Cyrodiil there would be absolutely no reason to continue on the PvP server where all you do is log in and fight what is likely groups of 20+. Hard pass.

I like the idea of a PvP and PvE server so performance can be better, but the way in which you proposed it is horrendous.

eso_lags · June 2018

Yes

Jayman1000 wrote: »

I would love it if we had pvp servers where pvp could be anywhere bar some few sanctuary zones, like wow. But it's not gonna happen, just forget it

Lol yes a few sanctuary zones indeed. And i know

but i can dream cant i?

Silver_Strider · June 2018

With this lag?
Might as well make the choice of being able to play and not being able to since that's the situation with PvP ATM anyway. You go in, walk in any direction for a minute or 2 and FREEZE.
Log out
Log In
Dead.

Try again.

AlienatedGoat · June 2018

No

itzTJ wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

*** no.

If there is ever a PvP server, they better make Cyrodiil and IC PvE for us.

Why?? pve is literally 90% of the world/game.. But i can see the pros and cons of IC having a pve system of some sort.. i just dont know if it would hurt it to bad.

Because I want PvE Cyrodiil.

Do I really need another reason?

Nyghthowler · June 2018

Other

No, I wouldn't play on it but I would love for them to have their own server. Then they can beg Zo$ to nerf each other all day long and it wont affect PvE!

Aimora · June 2018

No

I wouldn't play on it as I am useless at PvP - wouldn't mind if they did it, but would love a PvE version of Cyrodiil and IC

Aesthier · June 2018

No

Where is the financial incentive for ZoS to double their server costs and split their income between both?

If you think things get fixed slow now just imagine what would happen when they are trying to maintain a server dedicated to a separate version of the game and no money to hire a new team.

Sorry but I fail to see any educated logic behind this.

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