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No sloads nerf in patch notes
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Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Okay, i am gonna post you an example i had yesterday. I was on my magicka sorc, kiting a zerg until only 4 enemies were left, cause the others left.
One was just spamming light attacks with destro. One was a DK with a bow doing only light attacks and it procced shieldbreaker on me. Then there was 1 healer and a nb. The nb only spammed abush as his only skill and this procced sloads.
The cp were like 400-600. And from what they did i assume that they were really Bad player. Cause what decent player only spams light attack or only ambush?
So i burned my resto to outheal shieldbrealer and the sloads dot, trying to brust the shieldbreaker, i killed him it took me time cause they had a healer. After i killed him I was sitting at 2k hp and got the next sloads proc on me. 1 cast of healing ward gives me 1k hp at the inital cast. Sloads takes this away in 2 procs. Dark deal has a 1 second cast time so i tried it but the cast took too long and the sloads killed me.
This all happend while i had 23k shields up. The only defense from a magicka sorc.
Without shieldbreaker and sloads i would have killed them. You know why? Cause i have exp in this game and use more then just light attacks or one skill, i spent thousands of hours in pvp learning and working on my build and playstyle. And i am getting rekt from casuals who dont unterstand anything from the game and dont have even 5% of the knowledge and skill i have and they still killed my with 0 effort cause the sets that they wear did all the job for them.
They didnt use any rotation or buffed up, no CC on me, no snare, no ultimate, only light attacks and ambush spam. And they still killed me! Thats Not balance. Giving players sets so that they can stand a Chance against a top tier player without needing to learn mechanics and everything in the game is Not balance. Its broken and not rewarding for a player who spend thousands of hours in this game to be good.
How can u defend this? How can u enjoy our "tears" ? What Kind of sadistic people are you? You are the players why ESO has one of the Most toxic Community in the game. Players using broken sets only to hear other ppl complain and making fun of them for "crying ".
Why? Are you butthurt cause without cheese you are free ap to the good players cause you refuse to learn?
I also see zenimax putting things into this. They did these cheese sets without giving any Statement and still completely silent with all these complaigns in the forum.
Game is not rewarding for players who spent a lot of time to be good. Cause new players can just put in cheese sets and kill them without any effort.1 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, I guess this is when I join the Sload train.
Werewolf + Sload = Oboi
I tried(replacing shacklebreaker), and found it underwhelming. The stat loss was very noticeable - the WW form felt squishier, and the overall damage felt lower too.
Maybe if i replaced salvation instead it would be better - but honestly i don't think so, the reduced cost is too important for my playstyle(not to mention the extra damage in-form).1 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, I guess this is when I join the Sload train.
Werewolf + Sload = Oboi
I tried(replacing shacklebreaker), and found it underwhelming. The stat loss was very noticeable - the WW form felt squishier, and the overall damage felt lower too.
Maybe if i replaced salvation instead it would be better - but honestly i don't think so, the reduced cost is too important for my playstyle(not to mention the extra damage in-form).
I will try Shackle+Sload + Trollking, not removing Shackle anytime soon
My guess is that I´ll lose too much overall damage from replacing automaton with Sload´s1 -
AuldWolf✭✭✭✭✭They have representatives and hard gameplay data they're looking at now. Which, please, let's face it, is much better than listening to us lot. The vast majority of people don't know what's good for balance. They don't even understand that the reason TF2 stood for so long is because it worked primarily on a system of introducing counters rather than opting for ham-fisted, clumsy nerfs.
I think ZOS is doing the right thing.5 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭One hit kills are perfectly fine when they don't happen to you xD
Reminds me of this beauty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN3IdgssMwo
Bring back 1T
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Skoomah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The counter is very easy: just outheal the dot damage or don't engage on your own a group of 3+ and expect to win1 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
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Actually no. If they would all attack with skills and not just light attacks my shields would drop in 1 second Leaving me with 8k resist. Proper burst and cc and i am rip.2 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
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Actually no. If they would all attack with skills and not just light attacks my shields would drop in 1 second Leaving me with 8k resist. Proper burst and cc and i am rip.
Actually, yes. Even if they did fight and kill you without sload or shieldbreaker, it is entirely normal for ~90% of damage to be absorbed by a sorcerer's shield before you manage to kill him with a burst combo.
That means any damage that bypassed the shield for the whole duration of the fight, even if weak, would be on top of "damage done" lists, simply because it continued ticking(and earning it's spot) while everything else was being absorbed.
If i fight you for 30 minutes and you absorb everything except sload, and then i kill you with a 20K incap+executioner(because you fell asleep), your log will show 10K incap, 10K executioner, and 100K sload." Behold, sload did more damage than any player skills!"5 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thanks for telling me how shields work. Still i am getting wrecked by players with proper burst and cc Timing before i even fired my first frag.
My point still stands. Sloads or any instant damage set in general should go from pvp. Whats so bad about this?0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thanks for telling me how shields work. Still i am getting wrecked by players with proper burst and cc Timing before i even fired my first frag.
My point still stands. Sloads or any instant damage set in general should go from pvp. Whats so bad about this?
Simply put - shields are too good.
ZOS first added the shieldbreaker set. Then they added the knightslayer set. And now they added sload. Do you think they made all those deal oblivion damage by mistake? No. Its their way to apply some damage control, without a direct nerf to shields (because nerfing shields would affect a lot more players than sload does).4 -
redshirt_49✭✭✭✭
Bye, sload. Really is it so hard to purge DoTs? And before you say "well, he's just going to reapply it again". You really need to think that maybe your brute force approach does not work in every situation. If you can't out-DPS them then you have to adjust, this has ALWAYS been the case. Rune cage the user, incap him. Do SOMETHING.
Here's a match recap from me using Sloads on my heavy armor magblade. If it were as overpowered as you claimed, I would not just have 2 kills more than the next guy. Nor would I have just as many deaths as everybody else. Most of my actual damage comes from AoEs, destructive clench and impaler, not sloads. And perhaps more notably, my team would not have placed dead last in spite of my efforts.
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generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »[
if i face a group of people wearing sloads, i "normaly" will not escape, but sometimes i survive it kinda, like 1 out of every 10 times i happen to escape, but the thing is, i would have died not from sloads, but from the fact im fighting a group of people, dont matter what thier wearing, too many people targeting me = im dead lol.
a fact missed by many."The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.0 -
The_Red_Viper✭✭✭The only people I hear complaining about it are on the forums. I have yet to see someone cry about it ingame, unlike the river of tears we have here.1 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭they'll adjust and we'll all be sload-tastic, OR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE WEARING IT, in no time! :-)"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Sloads disrupts the old playstyle cherished by those who love their Cloak/Major Expedition and Shield Stacking/Streak cheese...
1v1 Sloads is very easy to counter, but when you attempt to 1vX (like many of the complainers about Sloads like to do) against multiple Sloads users, then the 1vX'ers get crushed and cry buckets of tears over it...
Even though I don't use the set and have no intention of doing so, I am glad they didn't nerf it...
I love watching those salty tears of the cheesers that are now being cheesed (and they absolutely cant stand it)...
Sloads is by far the highest dps set in a 1v1.
Its literally breaking cloak, yet you seem to think its fine. It's like taking about a magplars breath of life while sloaded.
All i see here is a scrub that likely uses sloads is happy that he can finally do something about players who are just simply better and will always be better it seems.
Forget it, you are talking with a wall. Just look at his build in his signature...
Yeah, take a good look at it; try it out as a matter of fact...
It's fully original, it's fun, people like it (it's gotten over 19k views and I am messaged about it regularly), and most importantly it works...
Is it OP?
Not at all; it was intended to be a Jack of all Trades build and simutaneosly be Vampire themed...
Give it a try...
You might like it...
Unyeilding Bias
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The Combat Physician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaqUVm_8JE&t=142s0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Sloads disrupts the old playstyle cherished by those who love their Cloak/Major Expedition and Shield Stacking/Streak cheese...
1v1 Sloads is very easy to counter, but when you attempt to 1vX (like many of the complainers about Sloads like to do) against multiple Sloads users, then the 1vX'ers get crushed and cry buckets of tears over it...
Even though I don't use the set and have no intention of doing so, I am glad they didn't nerf it...
I love watching those salty tears of the cheesers that are now being cheesed (and they absolutely cant stand it)...
Sloads is by far the highest dps set in a 1v1.
Its literally breaking cloak, yet you seem to think its fine. It's like taking about a magplars breath of life while sloaded.
All i see here is a scrub that likely uses sloads is happy that he can finally do something about players who are just simply better and will always be better it seems.
Forget it, you are talking with a wall. Just look at his build in his signature...
Yeah, take a good look at it; try it out as a matter of fact...
It's fully original, it's fun, people like it (it's gotten over 19k views and I am messaged about it regularly), and most importantly it works...
Is it OP?
Not at all; it was intended to be a Jack of all Trades build and simutaneosly be Vampire themed...
Give it a try...
You might like it...
Nah it's just not good, why would i gimp myself by running it.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
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