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No sloads nerf in patch notes
ezio45
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How hard would it have been to fit this in, no ones asking for it to be redesigned to something ground breaking. Make it do 1 magic dmg every one sec for 7 seconds for all we care and call it done
Im so beyond sick of this set its a nightmare
Im so beyond sick of this set its a nightmare
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Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭That would be groundbreaking nerf since making it magic dmg would make it beeing affected by battle spirit , resistances and absorbed by shields. Dmg from 885 per tick would drop in PvP down to 200-400. Zenimax devs also said it that they wont change sets between major updates so we'll have to wait to actual nerf of Sload atleast to new dungeon pack DLC release.0 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭That would be groundbreaking nerf since making it magic dmg would make it beeing affected by battle spirit , resistances and absorbed by shields. Dmg from 885 per tick would drop in PvP down to 200-400. Zenimax devs also said it that they wont change sets between major updates so we'll have to wait to actual nerf of Sload atleast to new dungeon pack DLC release.
even ones that are obviously over performing? that seem alittle problematic especially with a set this broken0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭That would be groundbreaking nerf since making it magic dmg would make it beeing affected by battle spirit , resistances and absorbed by shields. Dmg from 885 per tick would drop in PvP down to 200-400. Zenimax devs also said it that they wont change sets between major updates so we'll have to wait to actual nerf of Sload atleast to new dungeon pack DLC release.
even ones that are obviously over performing? that seem alittle problematic especially with a set this broken
If overperforming is not connected to bug or exploit then yes those sets will stay untouched for atleast 1 full major update cycle. Sload is not the 1st set that was overperforming. There were sets in the past that were used even by more people at once then Sload currently is and those sets were also untouched until later major updates. Reasoning behind that is that developers dont want to make people upset by making constant changes to sets which could cause situations where someone golded out his gear which then few weeks later would became useless.
Edited by Juhasow on June 20, 2018 5:31AM2 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭That would be groundbreaking nerf since making it magic dmg would make it beeing affected by battle spirit , resistances and absorbed by shields. Dmg from 885 per tick would drop in PvP down to 200-400. Zenimax devs also said it that they wont change sets between major updates so we'll have to wait to actual nerf of Sload atleast to new dungeon pack DLC release.
even ones that are obviously over performing? that seem alittle problematic especially with a set this broken
If overperforming is not connected to bug or exploit then yes those sets will stay untouched for atleast 1 full major update cycle. Sload is not the 1st set that was overperforming. There were sets in the past that were used even by more people at once then Sload currently is and those sets were also untouched until later major updates. Reasoning behind that is that developers dont want to make people upset by making constant changes to sets which could cause situations where someone golded out his gear and then few weeks later is becamed useless.
Yeah it took a while for Selenes and Vipers to be nerfed and that was some serious one hit kill bs. But imo ZOS should move faster on this stuff. I think that more of the community is frustrated by sloads than legitimately wants it in the game. A lot of people I’ve talked to about using are only doing so because they’re sick of not having that edge. There’s only a handful of griefers and people who use it because they can’t win otherwise. But it’s definitely not good for the health of the game. Proc sets are becoming far to relevant again. They should never be the overwhelming choice for damage. They should be supplementary sets, that complement certain play styles. Sloads and to some extent Zaan completely over power builds. Sloads especially you just slap on any build, from light attack bow spammers to stamina wardens to mag sorcs and it works on them all.5 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's a game mechanic introduced by the devs for a good reason, it's a game style and sloads is not so hard to counter, it is still survivable.'For heaven's sake it's just a DoT not a full on front ended burst damage. If one cannot survive it, then it's time to think over your play style and sorry to say L2P.
It's a fun set and battle grounds is just the right place to play it, makes it more challenging, because it's impossible to go into stealth or invisibility when you either apply or are affected by the DoT, intended or not, I like it
and I will keep enjoying it till it's destroyed by all the crying. 18 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭Sloads disrupts the old playstyle cherished by those who love their Cloak/Major Expedition and Shield Stacking/Streak cheese...
1v1 Sloads is very easy to counter, but when you attempt to 1vX (like many of the complainers about Sloads like to do) against multiple Sloads users, then the 1vX'ers get crushed and cry buckets of tears over it...
Even though I don't use the set and have no intention of doing so, I am glad they didn't nerf it...
I love watching those salty tears of the cheesers that are now being cheesed (and they absolutely cant stand it)...Unyeilding Bias
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Durham✭✭✭✭✭
✭That would be groundbreaking nerf since making it magic dmg would make it beeing affected by battle spirit , resistances and absorbed by shields. Dmg from 885 per tick would drop in PvP down to 200-400. Zenimax devs also said it that they wont change sets between major updates so we'll have to wait to actual nerf of Sload atleast to new dungeon pack DLC release.
even ones that are obviously over performing? that seem alittle problematic especially with a set this broken
What about overperforming classes...PVP DEADWAIT
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Durham✭✭✭✭✭
✭That would be groundbreaking nerf since making it magic dmg would make it beeing affected by battle spirit , resistances and absorbed by shields. Dmg from 885 per tick would drop in PvP down to 200-400. Zenimax devs also said it that they wont change sets between major updates so we'll have to wait to actual nerf of Sload atleast to new dungeon pack DLC release.
even ones that are obviously over performing? that seem alittle problematic especially with a set this broken
If overperforming is not connected to bug or exploit then yes those sets will stay untouched for atleast 1 full major update cycle. Sload is not the 1st set that was overperforming. There were sets in the past that were used even by more people at once then Sload currently is and those sets were also untouched until later major updates. Reasoning behind that is that developers dont want to make people upset by making constant changes to sets which could cause situations where someone golded out his gear and then few weeks later is becamed useless.
Yeah it took a while for Selenes and Vipers to be nerfed and that was some serious one hit kill bs. But imo ZOS should move faster on this stuff. I think that more of the community is frustrated by sloads than legitimately wants it in the game. A lot of people I’ve talked to about using are only doing so because they’re sick of not having that edge. There’s only a handful of griefers and people who use it because they can’t win otherwise. But it’s definitely not good for the health of the game. Proc sets are becoming far to relevant again. They should never be the overwhelming choice for damage. They should be supplementary sets, that complement certain play styles. Sloads and to some extent Zaan completely over power builds. Sloads especially you just slap on any build, from light attack bow spammers to stamina wardens to mag sorcs and it works on them all.
Only a tiny proportion of the games populations actively pvp's... Not many people care... and most surely do not care about sorcs and nb' s to be honest ... I have both currently and they are still over performing in this meta... Compared to the other classes...PVP DEADWAIT
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭How hard would it have been to fit this in, no ones asking for it to be redesigned to something ground breaking. Make it do 1 magic dmg every one sec for 7 seconds for all we care and call it done
Im so beyond sick of this set its a nightmare
The suggested fix is essentially removing the set from the game which is not going to happen other than the tweak they already did. That should be obvious to anyone.
If, and that is a question mark, if it is to be nerfed it will likely not happen until the next update at the least. It certainly seems questionable if it is really over performing.
Heck, one guys definitive proof was that the kill shot he received was from sloads more than anything else which is far from demonstrating anything.
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ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭That would be groundbreaking nerf since making it magic dmg would make it beeing affected by battle spirit , resistances and absorbed by shields. Dmg from 885 per tick would drop in PvP down to 200-400. Zenimax devs also said it that they wont change sets between major updates so we'll have to wait to actual nerf of Sload atleast to new dungeon pack DLC release.
even ones that are obviously over performing? that seem alittle problematic especially with a set this broken
What about overperforming classes...
I dont see any classes over preforming on pvp rn, ya stamblades incap is pretty bad but i dont think this necessarily makes the class over preforming, snipes bad but i dont see that as an over preforming build
I see under preforming classes that need a buff like magden and dps magplar but that doesnt mean you lower the ceiling to raise the floor, buf those classes1 -
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✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Sloads disrupts the old playstyle cherished by those who love their Cloak/Major Expedition and Shield Stacking/Streak cheese...
1v1 Sloads is very easy to counter, but when you attempt to 1vX (like many of the complainers about Sloads like to do) against multiple Sloads users, then the 1vX'ers get crushed and cry buckets of tears over it...
Even though I don't use the set and have no intention of doing so, I am glad they didn't nerf it...
I love watching those salty tears of the cheesers that are now being cheesed (and they absolutely cant stand it)...
have you even ever played a sorc or nb, cuz you have 0 idea of what your talking about, shield staking and cloak are just as valid as getting having resistance. go play a light armor sorc or nb in pvp and tell me that this class is even viable without those. there part of the build7 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Sloads disrupts the old playstyle cherished by those who love their Cloak/Major Expedition and Shield Stacking/Streak cheese...
1v1 Sloads is very easy to counter, but when you attempt to 1vX (like many of the complainers about Sloads like to do) against multiple Sloads users, then the 1vX'ers get crushed and cry buckets of tears over it...
Even though I don't use the set and have no intention of doing so, I am glad they didn't nerf it...
I love watching those salty tears of the cheesers that are now being cheesed (and they absolutely cant stand it)...
Sloads is by far the highest dps set in a 1v1.
Its literally breaking cloak, yet you seem to think its fine. It's like taking about a magplars breath of life while sloaded.
All i see here is a scrub that likely uses sloads is happy that he can finally do something about players who are just simply better and will always be better it seems.PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭How hard would it have been to fit this in, no ones asking for it to be redesigned to something ground breaking. Make it do 1 magic dmg every one sec for 7 seconds for all we care and call it done
Im so beyond sick of this set its a nightmare
maybe its not as widespread of a problem as the forums or .... sorcs? think it is?
there have been threads on how to counter = then come the screams but i have to change my build.
7 of us DAB today were fighting a sorc and i was sloading, and zaans, and knight slayer and he still killed a few of us before dying over and over....so, if sloads was looked into and it was found its NOT as effective as people have been screaming...maybe...? so it is counterable enough?
also, there have been threads of people HEARING about how good it is and trying it...but coming back with, "i don't get the hype...its not that great." <
if it was looked into and this was found to be the case, then, maybe....??? idk...
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »How hard would it have been to fit this in, no ones asking for it to be redesigned to something ground breaking. Make it do 1 magic dmg every one sec for 7 seconds for all we care and call it done
Im so beyond sick of this set its a nightmare
maybe its not as widespread of a problem as the forums or .... sorcs? think it is?
there have been threads on how to counter = then come the screams but i have to change my build.
7 of us DAB today were fighting a sorc and i was sloading, and zaans, and knight slayer and he still killed a few of us before dying over and over....so, if sloads was looked into and it was found its NOT as effective as people have been screaming...maybe...? so it is counterable enough?
also, there have been threads of people HEARING about how good it is and trying it...but coming back with, "i don't get the hype...its not that great." <
if it was looked into and this was found to be the case, then, maybe....??? idk...
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shucks, im just a nub...pay no attention, scream at will, be angry...
There is no counter for it fml. The fact is the set on a fundamental level is too strong. Why is that so hard to understand for the mass noobs that seem too have infested the forum nowadays. Honestly your running a completely cheese build and still nearly got 1v7'd says that you are just an absolute terrible player and instead of improving at the game you'd rather use cheese to try and close the gap.PS4 EU DC
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a player can't have access to enough information to make sweeping accusations that encompass the whole game...
i remember when people were complaining about some guy who had "too many listed a guild trader, he must be farming or duping."
zos went and looked at all the data (we don't have access to as witch burners) and were, "nah, nothing abnormal going on there."
and then you're forced to think outside of our bubble = maybe he bought them from others, maybe the x2 bonus hit while he/she was farming a node, etc."The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
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Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »AND
a player can't have access to enough information to make sweeping accusations that encompass the whole game...
i remember when people were complaining about some guy who had "too many listed a guild trader, he must be farming or duping."
zos went and looked at all the data (we don't have access to as witch burners) and were, "nah, nothing abnormal going on there."
and then you're forced to think outside of our bubble = maybe he bought them from others, maybe the x2 bonus hit while he/she was farming a node, etc.
The set has been tested, in a 1v1 it by far has the highest dps for a 5th piece.
Nevermind having it stacked against you when outnumbered.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »generalmyrick wrote: »AND
a player can't have access to enough information to make sweeping accusations that encompass the whole game...
i remember when people were complaining about some guy who had "too many listed a guild trader, he must be farming or duping."
zos went and looked at all the data (we don't have access to as witch burners) and were, "nah, nothing abnormal going on there."
and then you're forced to think outside of our bubble = maybe he bought them from others, maybe the x2 bonus hit while he/she was farming a node, etc.
The set has been tested, in a 1v1 it by far has the highest dps for a 5th piece.
Nevermind having it stacked against you when outnumbered.
and? heavy attacks are op if you're outnumbered."The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.8 -
Gprime31✭✭✭✭Time to get someone to make me a set I guess...sigh..hate having to fight cheese with cheese1
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✭✭✭✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »generalmyrick wrote: »AND
a player can't have access to enough information to make sweeping accusations that encompass the whole game...
i remember when people were complaining about some guy who had "too many listed a guild trader, he must be farming or duping."
zos went and looked at all the data (we don't have access to as witch burners) and were, "nah, nothing abnormal going on there."
and then you're forced to think outside of our bubble = maybe he bought them from others, maybe the x2 bonus hit while he/she was farming a node, etc.
The set has been tested, in a 1v1 it by far has the highest dps for a 5th piece.
Nevermind having it stacked against you when outnumbered.
and? heavy attacks are op if you're outnumbered.
Wtf are you on about.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭Time to get someone to make me a set I guess...sigh..hate having to fight cheese with cheese
Yes, time to gold my staff and makes sets for my other characters! woot!"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.0 -
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✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »generalmyrick wrote: »AND
a player can't have access to enough information to make sweeping accusations that encompass the whole game...
i remember when people were complaining about some guy who had "too many listed a guild trader, he must be farming or duping."
zos went and looked at all the data (we don't have access to as witch burners) and were, "nah, nothing abnormal going on there."
and then you're forced to think outside of our bubble = maybe he bought them from others, maybe the x2 bonus hit while he/she was farming a node, etc.
The set has been tested, in a 1v1 it by far has the highest dps for a 5th piece.
Nevermind having it stacked against you when outnumbered.
i gotta side with this guy myrick.... even changing up my whole build, running different food, enchants (for more health), slotting a resto for the healing ward, and yes running a 5 pc's alteration so i could spam purge, i was still getting melted all over cyro yesterday. and at that point i want even really being a dps...2 -
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Use dot poisons and clench if you have a master staff.
Thats 4 dots, 3 of which aren't even skills. This game in a nutshell now.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
Use dot poisons and clench if you have a master staff.
Thats 4 dots, 3 of which aren't even skills. This game in a nutshell now.
i dont run clench, run rc even before summerset. its to slow trying to get a frag off, poisons you have a point on but i really am not a fan of them either. not as broken as sloads but there till cheap in my book0 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭Some people think they are better than others, accuse them of being scrubs for using set 'X' and then finally admit they are using the set too, so that make them scrubs too?
The way I see it is that some people get used to a certain style of game play, and when that changes due to a new mechanic or set and they can't cope with the change, they go out of their way to be judgmental of other's play style.
Even if this was a profession or a job it is still a valid style of game play. Sload's with it's oblivion damage is finally breaking perma-blockers, Knight Slayer was also introduced into the game for the very same reason, some how it did not work out, so now we have Sload's.
A quick purge is all it takes, run for cover, purge and crouch, that's how I have been doing it on my stam and mag characters.
But a quick question, does this make perma-blockers scrubs? Because it seems ZOS is intent on breaking that play style, evidence of two oblivion damage sets for them, Shield Breaker was meant for shield stackers, so shield stackers are scrubs too?
None of the play styles are scrub, they are all fun and good to play, stop living in the past and learn to play as mechanics change. Learn-Adapt-Evolve.
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✭✭✭✭✭How hard would it have been to fit this in, no ones asking for it to be redesigned to something ground breaking. Make it do 1 magic dmg every one sec for 7 seconds for all we care and call it done
Im so beyond sick of this set its a nightmare
not everyone agrees with you and your group.
Edited by Gilvoth on June 20, 2018 5:09AM6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Put a few points/skills towards defense. I rarely see this proc on my death recap.5
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