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No sloads nerf in patch notes
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »Some people think they are better than others, accuse them of being scrubs for using set 'X' and then finally admit they are using the set too, so that make them scrubs too?
The way I see it is that some people get used to a certain style of game play, and when that changes due to a new mechanic or set and they can't cope with the change, they go out of their way to be judgmental of other's play style.
Even if this was a profession or a job it is still a valid style of game play. Sload's with it's oblivion damage is finally breaking perma-blockers, Knight Slayer was also introduced into the game for the very same reason, some how it did not work out, so now we have Sload's.
A quick purge is all it takes, run for cover, purge and crouch, that's how I have been doing it on my stam and mag characters.
But a quick question, does this make perma-blockers scrubs? Because it seems ZOS is intent on breaking that play style, evidence of two oblivion damage sets for them, Shield Breaker was meant for shield stackers, so shield stackers are scrubs too?
None of the play styles are scrub, they are all fun and good to play, stop living in the past and learn to play as mechanics change. Learn-Adapt-Evolve.
Cheers
I use the set because i must, why would i gimp myself on not using the best sets when i'm going to get zerged with it. Difference between myself and other scrubs that zerg is that i admit the set is broken and needs nerfing and the zergers would rather defend it on the forum because its a crutch they use to kill better players.
The way i see it is that some people like to think that broken OP sets are OK, the a set that basically disables cloak is OK. Good players could handle all play styles just fine before this broken set, the ones who have the most use of it and the bad players who have zerged the entire time playing the game and are therefore still bad at it. They're the ones crying about permablockers/ shields/ cloak etc...
Purge is not a good skill. It's a super high cost skill that removes 5 effects thats it. You can purge then cloak and thats all your magicka out. This is hoping that it actually purges the sloads and you dont have more effects than 5, i can light attack cripple and that'll give me 5 effects, cripple dot, 2x poison dot, sloads, snare. Nevermind other skills such as mark giving 3x, fear giving 2x, burning dot, snares, etc...
Shield breaker was a set brought in after sorcs was OP in 1.6, yet they got nerfed in 1.7 anyway the same time they brought this set it and this was one of the first indications on the game going wrong. Why bring in a set that specifically counters a class, why not balance the class like they did and why give people an easy way to deal with it in the form of a set to do it for them?
[removed baiting comment]Edited by ZOS_JesC on June 20, 2018 1:42PMPS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...3 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »
And again i'll point this out as you guys clearly don't understand the game.
Oblivion dmg cannot be mitigated.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...4 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's not mitigation that is being talked about, but defense, 2 skill points for efficient purge.2 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »It's not mitigation that is being talked about, but defense, 2 skill points for efficient purge.
And again i'll say it again.
Efficent purge is 2 effect for like 5k magicka.
I light attack cripple you and thats 5 effects. So it'll take you 2-3 purges to make sure you remove the sloads. Wish i ran around with 15k free magicka on my stamina builds to waste because someone proc'd a 5th piece set that cost them literally nothing in the way of resources to do it.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...4 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »
And again i'll point this out as you guys clearly don't understand the game.
Oblivion dmg cannot be mitigated.
Well something works, because I rarely see this proc on my death recap.1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »
And again i'll point this out as you guys clearly don't understand the game.
Oblivion dmg cannot be mitigated.
Well something works, because I rarely see this proc on my death recap.
Must be nice running in zergs.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...3 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »
And again i'll point this out as you guys clearly don't understand the game.
Oblivion dmg cannot be mitigated.
Well something works, because I rarely see this proc on my death recap.
Must be nice running in zergs.
i run solo and i have never died from sloads.
i forced myself to adjust my build to counter not only sloads but several things that changed this last patch.
many of us are considering stamina and magicka builds as unable to sustain and in need of changes.0 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »
And again i'll point this out as you guys clearly don't understand the game.
Oblivion dmg cannot be mitigated.
Well something works, because I rarely see this proc on my death recap.
Must be nice running in zergs.
Either grouped or going solo. Stop making excuses and step out of the glass cannon box.5 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭BTW I did not find many people using Sload's in Cyrodiil, (maybe because I don't go there much due to the awesome lag fest there) except seeing a couple of times, but it's the number one set used in Battlegrounds, and I play both Stamina and Magicka Nightblade. Going out of stealth made BG difficult for me for some some time, but I kept trying and finally found a new game play style where I don't have to crutch solely on cloak or stealth.
I will not say that I am some great awesome player, I am just an average Joe and will be enjoying new play styles as they come.Edited by The_Protagonist on June 20, 2018 5:23AM2 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »
And again i'll point this out as you guys clearly don't understand the game.
Oblivion dmg cannot be mitigated.
Well something works, because I rarely see this proc on my death recap.
Must be nice running in zergs.
LOL Assumptions.4 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »
And again i'll point this out as you guys clearly don't understand the game.
Oblivion dmg cannot be mitigated.
Well something works, because I rarely see this proc on my death recap.
Must be nice running in zergs.
LOL Assumptions.
Where is your response to me breaking down 'purge'
You seemed to adamant of people using it.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »BTW I did not find many people using Sload's in Cyrodiil, (maybe because I don't go there much due to the awesome lag fest there) except seeing a couple of times, but it's the number one set used in Battlegrounds, and I play both Stamina and Magicka Nightblade. Going out of stealth made BG difficult for me for some some time, but I kept trying and finally found a new game play style where I don't have to crutch solely on cloak or stealth.
I will not say that I am some great awesome player, I am just an average Joe and will be enjoying new play styles as they come.
i crutch on cloak and stealth because i love stealth and cloaking way before eso came out.
i simply love the stealth gameplay style.
i agree with you about not many people wearing sloads in cryodiil, However, when im facing large zergs i see it proc ALOT, so it is there, just not as much as what i have heard others claim.
but in battleground i have heard it is Heavily used.1 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »
And again i'll point this out as you guys clearly don't understand the game.
Oblivion dmg cannot be mitigated.
Well something works, because I rarely see this proc on my death recap.
Must be nice running in zergs.
LOL Assumptions.
Where is your response to me breaking down 'purge'
You seemed to adamant of people using it.
Purged saved me quite a few times, but I will say also say not every time, we all have to die sometime
Honestly, purge should be used carefully, don't just spam it till you are out of magicka.5 -
stojekarcub18_ESO✭✭✭✭Best to just think of your pvp enemies as you would pve enemies...adapt. I haven't even tried Sload's, and have only seen it ONCE in my deathcap. People gotta have something to complain about when they die over and over, I guess.9 -
stojekarcub18_ESO✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »
And again i'll point this out as you guys clearly don't understand the game.
Oblivion dmg cannot be mitigated.
Well something works, because I rarely see this proc on my death recap.
Must be nice running in zergs.
Either grouped or going solo. Stop making excuses and step out of the glass cannon box.
Well said. Actually build your character with some strategy. I'm glad they're moving away from min/maxing.5 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »BTW I did not find many people using Sload's in Cyrodiil, (maybe because I don't go there much due to the awesome lag fest there) except seeing a couple of times, but it's the number one set used in Battlegrounds, and I play both Stamina and Magicka Nightblade. Going out of stealth made BG difficult for me for some some time, but I kept trying and finally found a new game play style where I don't have to crutch solely on cloak or stealth.
I will not say that I am some great awesome player, I am just an average Joe and will be enjoying new play styles as they come.
i crutch on cloak and stealth because i love stealth and cloaking way before eso came out.
i simply love the stealth gameplay style.
i agree with you about not many people wearing sloads in cryodiil, However, when im facing large zergs i see it proc ALOT, so it is there, just not as much as what i have heard others claim.
but in battleground i have heard it is Heavily used.
I have builds dedicated to stealth for both of my characters, and even stealth countering builds
I loved it that I could gank players in BGs, but it became boring after I was not getting much fun out of it, but still played it, when Sload's came I switched from Ganker to Bowtard and honestly I found the Bow/Bow play style quite fun. I die a little more than before now, but I like the change I made for myself.
Okay, have not faced a zerg like that, but it is quite possible.2 -
stojekarcub18_ESO✭✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »BTW I did not find many people using Sload's in Cyrodiil, (maybe because I don't go there much due to the awesome lag fest there) except seeing a couple of times, but it's the number one set used in Battlegrounds, and I play both Stamina and Magicka Nightblade. Going out of stealth made BG difficult for me for some some time, but I kept trying and finally found a new game play style where I don't have to crutch solely on cloak or stealth.
I will not say that I am some great awesome player, I am just an average Joe and will be enjoying new play styles as they come.
i crutch on cloak and stealth because i love stealth and cloaking way before eso came out.
i simply love the stealth gameplay style.
i agree with you about not many people wearing sloads in cryodiil, However, when im facing large zergs i see it proc ALOT, so it is there, just not as much as what i have heard others claim.
but in battleground i have heard it is Heavily used.
I have builds dedicated to stealth for both of my characters, and even stealth countering builds
I loved it that I could gank players in BGs, but it became boring after I was not getting much fun out of it, but still played it, when Sload's came I switched from Ganker to Bowtard and honestly I found the Bow/Bow play style quite fun. I die a little more than before now, but I like the change I made for myself.
Okay, have not faced a zerg like that, but it is quite possible.
You die a little more, but I bet in a bit of time you will be right back to where you were. Where is the fun in playing the same thing over and over once you've got it down? I like the way you think and play
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »BTW I did not find many people using Sload's in Cyrodiil, (maybe because I don't go there much due to the awesome lag fest there) except seeing a couple of times, but it's the number one set used in Battlegrounds, and I play both Stamina and Magicka Nightblade. Going out of stealth made BG difficult for me for some some time, but I kept trying and finally found a new game play style where I don't have to crutch solely on cloak or stealth.
I will not say that I am some great awesome player, I am just an average Joe and will be enjoying new play styles as they come.
i crutch on cloak and stealth because i love stealth and cloaking way before eso came out.
i simply love the stealth gameplay style.
i agree with you about not many people wearing sloads in cryodiil, However, when im facing large zergs i see it proc ALOT, so it is there, just not as much as what i have heard others claim.
but in battleground i have heard it is Heavily used.
I have builds dedicated to stealth for both of my characters, and even stealth countering builds
I loved it that I could gank players in BGs, but it became boring after I was not getting much fun out of it, but still played it, when Sload's came I switched from Ganker to Bowtard and honestly I found the Bow/Bow play style quite fun. I die a little more than before now, but I like the change I made for myself.
Okay, have not faced a zerg like that, but it is quite possible.
if i face a group of people wearing sloads, i "normaly" will not escape, but sometimes i survive it kinda, like 1 out of every 10 times i happen to escape, but the thing is, i would have died not from sloads, but from the fact im fighting a group of people, dont matter what thier wearing, too many people targeting me = im dead lol.
Edited by Gilvoth on June 20, 2018 5:43AM1 -
stojekarcub18_ESO✭✭✭✭Do we need to establish that this is a BG issue? I think some, including myself, thought this was a Cyro complaint. I rarely run BG, more into solo or small group for pvp...perhaps I misunderstood as tbh I don't think about BG ever.0
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The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »BTW I did not find many people using Sload's in Cyrodiil, (maybe because I don't go there much due to the awesome lag fest there) except seeing a couple of times, but it's the number one set used in Battlegrounds, and I play both Stamina and Magicka Nightblade. Going out of stealth made BG difficult for me for some some time, but I kept trying and finally found a new game play style where I don't have to crutch solely on cloak or stealth.
I will not say that I am some great awesome player, I am just an average Joe and will be enjoying new play styles as they come.
i crutch on cloak and stealth because i love stealth and cloaking way before eso came out.
i simply love the stealth gameplay style.
i agree with you about not many people wearing sloads in cryodiil, However, when im facing large zergs i see it proc ALOT, so it is there, just not as much as what i have heard others claim.
but in battleground i have heard it is Heavily used.
I have builds dedicated to stealth for both of my characters, and even stealth countering builds
I loved it that I could gank players in BGs, but it became boring after I was not getting much fun out of it, but still played it, when Sload's came I switched from Ganker to Bowtard and honestly I found the Bow/Bow play style quite fun. I die a little more than before now, but I like the change I made for myself.
Okay, have not faced a zerg like that, but it is quite possible.
if i face a group of people wearing sloads, i "normaly" will not escape, but sometimes i survive it kinda, like 1 out of every 10 times i happen to escape, but the thing is, i would have died not from sloads, but from the fact im fighting a group of people, dont matter what thier wearing, too many people targeting me = im dead lol.
I know, it's really bad when you are trying to flank them and then another group happens to come over the route you are taking and get killed. I get a laugh of it sometimes and sometime I bang my table, but as soon I am revived back into action. So much fun 1 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »BTW I did not find many people using Sload's in Cyrodiil, (maybe because I don't go there much due to the awesome lag fest there) except seeing a couple of times, but it's the number one set used in Battlegrounds, and I play both Stamina and Magicka Nightblade. Going out of stealth made BG difficult for me for some some time, but I kept trying and finally found a new game play style where I don't have to crutch solely on cloak or stealth.
I will not say that I am some great awesome player, I am just an average Joe and will be enjoying new play styles as they come.
i ran in cyro for a half hr and it was on almost every single recap of mine0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »
And again i'll point this out as you guys clearly don't understand the game.
Oblivion dmg cannot be mitigated.
Well something works, because I rarely see this proc on my death recap.
Must be nice running in zergs.
Either grouped or going solo. Stop making excuses and step out of the glass cannon box.
Well said. Actually build your character with some strategy. I'm glad they're moving away from min/maxing.
many people just refuse that idea, but my friends and my guild all agree that pure stamina and pure magicka builds simply are not able to survive the changes that are in play and the new direction things are going.
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The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »Do we need to establish that this is a BG issue? I think some, including myself, thought this was a Cyro complaint. I rarely run BG, more into solo or small group for pvp...perhaps I misunderstood as tbh I don't think about BG ever.
BG is the only place where I have seen this set used almost every time and hardly ever saw it in Cyro.2 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »Do we need to establish that this is a BG issue? I think some, including myself, thought this was a Cyro complaint. I rarely run BG, more into solo or small group for pvp...perhaps I misunderstood as tbh I don't think about BG ever.
BG is the only place where I have seen this set used almost every time and hardly ever saw it in Cyro.
Didn't you just say you rarely go into cyro? Maybe thats why.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭The_Protagonist wrote: »BTW I did not find many people using Sload's in Cyrodiil, (maybe because I don't go there much due to the awesome lag fest there) except seeing a couple of times, but it's the number one set used in Battlegrounds, and I play both Stamina and Magicka Nightblade. Going out of stealth made BG difficult for me for some some time, but I kept trying and finally found a new game play style where I don't have to crutch solely on cloak or stealth.
I will not say that I am some great awesome player, I am just an average Joe and will be enjoying new play styles as they come.
i ran in cyro for a half hr and it was on almost every single recap of mine
Like someone said that some zergs it a lot, are you on PC/EU? Because I saw Sload's only a couple of times on Vivec and a few times on Shor, prime time. If it's a different server then I don't know.1 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »BTW I did not find many people using Sload's in Cyrodiil, (maybe because I don't go there much due to the awesome lag fest there) except seeing a couple of times, but it's the number one set used in Battlegrounds, and I play both Stamina and Magicka Nightblade. Going out of stealth made BG difficult for me for some some time, but I kept trying and finally found a new game play style where I don't have to crutch solely on cloak or stealth.
I will not say that I am some great awesome player, I am just an average Joe and will be enjoying new play styles as they come.
i ran in cyro for a half hr and it was on almost every single recap of mine
Like someone said that some zergs it a lot, are you on PC/EU? Because I saw Sload's only a couple of times on Vivec and a few times on Shor, prime time. If it's a different server then I don't know.
ps4 na and its literally everywhere, im solo i was fighting solo. this set is completely unmanageableEdited by ezio45 on June 20, 2018 6:07AM1 -
DirkRavenclaw✭✭✭✭Sload is fine. Luckily, ZOS resist the Nerf ThreadsCouncil Member of AtWritsEnd, Member of LoneWolfeHelp, Donor of GhostSeaTradingCO., Factor of EastEmpireTradingCO.,HonourGuard of ´DominionImperialGuard(DIG/PVP)
Master Crafter including Jewelry, i craft for Mats and Donation, always happy to help, if Im not in the Middle of PVP, i play since around 14 Months6 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DirkRavenclaw wrote: »Sload is fine. Luckily, ZOS resist the Nerf Threads
Zos only change stuff every 3 months.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0
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