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Shield stacking must go
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Swimguy✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »Imagine if, you could only run one heal at a time, HOTS wouldn’t stack, and you’ll miss a breath of life from a friend because your vigor is still ticking?
That’s what a shield stack nerf would look like to us.
yeah but our heals are OVER TIME and heal MUCH LESS damage than shields mitigate. That already makes shields the better defensive choice but they are also used by classes that fight at ranged (who thought giving ranged classes the better defence was a good idea... some real *** at ZOS). But wait theres more!!!!!! Shields effects are instant...... yea not OP at all..
Aside from all that they are 100% immune to crits and resistance debuffs.
Shields are overpowered. If you think shields are balanced and dont need a change, stop playing ur mag char and L2 do math.
Shields are really not all that strong. All magicka builds beside sorc are better off dropping light armor for heavy and dropping shields completely. The reaason being is one shield is so weak. There are some stamina builds who will take away your whole shield and a large chunk of your health in 1GCD especially stamblades and stamplars with bleeds and potl. the only class shields are viable on is mag sorc because they have access to two shields. Now where shields are op is harness magicka vs other magicka builds. My magblade dueling build has a pretty big harness shield and I will never run out of magicka vs a magicka class. It's broken and needs to be changed.
......lol "one shield" thats why people use resto staff and light armor...... they might take a massive chunk away but if you die after thats all on you because no one can burst 100% through a good players shields and they can just re apply re apply, stun kite. Also a shield morph gives back basically the whole cost of the shield if ur fighting anyone with projectiles. (who knows i bet half the melee attacks count as projectiles cause ZOS spaghetti code).
Everyone has access to harness magicka everyone can also get healing ward.. its time Mag classes get some skill and L2 kite1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »Imagine if, you could only run one heal at a time, HOTS wouldn’t stack, and you’ll miss a breath of life from a friend because your vigor is still ticking?
That’s what a shield stack nerf would look like to us.
yeah but our heals are OVER TIME and heal MUCH LESS damage than shields mitigate. That already makes shields the better defensive choice but they are also used by classes that fight at ranged (who thought giving ranged classes the better defence was a good idea... some real *** at ZOS). But wait theres more!!!!!! Shields effects are instant...... yea not OP at all..
Aside from all that they are 100% immune to crits and resistance debuffs.
Shields are overpowered. If you think shields are balanced and dont need a change, stop playing ur mag char and L2 do math.
Shields are really not all that strong. All magicka builds beside sorc are better off dropping light armor for heavy and dropping shields completely. The reaason being is one shield is so weak. There are some stamina builds who will take away your whole shield and a large chunk of your health in 1GCD especially stamblades and stamplars with bleeds and potl. the only class shields are viable on is mag sorc because they have access to two shields. Now where shields are op is harness magicka vs other magicka builds. My magblade dueling build has a pretty big harness shield and I will never run out of magicka vs a magicka class. It's broken and needs to be changed.
......lol "one shield" thats why people use resto staff and light armor...... they might take a massive chunk away but if you die after thats all on you because no one can burst 100% through a good players shields and they can just re apply re apply, stun kite. Also a shield morph gives back basically the whole cost of the shield if ur fighting anyone with projectiles. (who knows i bet half the melee attacks count as projectiles cause ZOS spaghetti code).
Everyone has access to harness magicka everyone can also get healing ward.. its time Mag classes get some skill and L2 kite
Why don't you play the game more before giving people with much more experience in the game lectures about balance.
Honestly saying light armour classes using ward + harness are op lmao. You are just embarrassing yourself.
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Everyone has access to harness magicka everyone can also get healing ward.. its time Mag classes get some skill and L2 kite
If you don't have the damage as a stamina build to burn through Harness and Healing Ward stacks and hit HP.... then I'm sorry but it's you who needs to L2P and to go get some damage instead of throwing wet noodles at wards.
I have no problem putting out more pressure on my bleed stamsorc than any Mag Build can hope to mitigate by spamming shields. If they don't kite, they are dead in seconds.
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Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So many here still complaining about Harness...
Just curious, have you done the math on how much Harness returns if you don't feed it?Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Swimguy✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »Imagine if, you could only run one heal at a time, HOTS wouldn’t stack, and you’ll miss a breath of life from a friend because your vigor is still ticking?
That’s what a shield stack nerf would look like to us.
yeah but our heals are OVER TIME and heal MUCH LESS damage than shields mitigate. That already makes shields the better defensive choice but they are also used by classes that fight at ranged (who thought giving ranged classes the better defence was a good idea... some real *** at ZOS). But wait theres more!!!!!! Shields effects are instant...... yea not OP at all..
Aside from all that they are 100% immune to crits and resistance debuffs.
Shields are overpowered. If you think shields are balanced and dont need a change, stop playing ur mag char and L2 do math.
Shields are really not all that strong. All magicka builds beside sorc are better off dropping light armor for heavy and dropping shields completely. The reaason being is one shield is so weak. There are some stamina builds who will take away your whole shield and a large chunk of your health in 1GCD especially stamblades and stamplars with bleeds and potl. the only class shields are viable on is mag sorc because they have access to two shields. Now where shields are op is harness magicka vs other magicka builds. My magblade dueling build has a pretty big harness shield and I will never run out of magicka vs a magicka class. It's broken and needs to be changed.
......lol "one shield" thats why people use resto staff and light armor...... they might take a massive chunk away but if you die after thats all on you because no one can burst 100% through a good players shields and they can just re apply re apply, stun kite. Also a shield morph gives back basically the whole cost of the shield if ur fighting anyone with projectiles. (who knows i bet half the melee attacks count as projectiles cause ZOS spaghetti code).
Everyone has access to harness magicka everyone can also get healing ward.. its time Mag classes get some skill and L2 kite
Why don't you play the game more before giving people with much more experience in the game lectures about balance.
Honestly saying light armour classes using ward + harness are op lmao. You are just embarrassing yourself.
lol lmao healing ward heals you and then harness tanks play a stam class for once and youll see how annoying it is to fight shields. Im not saying ALL shields are broken but some players have 14k-17k shields in non cp........ its not fun to play against there is no counter play at all. If mag can dish out crazy pressure from ranged idk why they can have giant burst protection and by far the best passives in the game with it...0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »Imagine if, you could only run one heal at a time, HOTS wouldn’t stack, and you’ll miss a breath of life from a friend because your vigor is still ticking?
That’s what a shield stack nerf would look like to us.
yeah but our heals are OVER TIME and heal MUCH LESS damage than shields mitigate. That already makes shields the better defensive choice but they are also used by classes that fight at ranged (who thought giving ranged classes the better defence was a good idea... some real *** at ZOS). But wait theres more!!!!!! Shields effects are instant...... yea not OP at all..
Aside from all that they are 100% immune to crits and resistance debuffs.
Shields are overpowered. If you think shields are balanced and dont need a change, stop playing ur mag char and L2 do math.
Shields are really not all that strong. All magicka builds beside sorc are better off dropping light armor for heavy and dropping shields completely. The reaason being is one shield is so weak. There are some stamina builds who will take away your whole shield and a large chunk of your health in 1GCD especially stamblades and stamplars with bleeds and potl. the only class shields are viable on is mag sorc because they have access to two shields. Now where shields are op is harness magicka vs other magicka builds. My magblade dueling build has a pretty big harness shield and I will never run out of magicka vs a magicka class. It's broken and needs to be changed.
......lol "one shield" thats why people use resto staff and light armor...... they might take a massive chunk away but if you die after thats all on you because no one can burst 100% through a good players shields and they can just re apply re apply, stun kite. Also a shield morph gives back basically the whole cost of the shield if ur fighting anyone with projectiles. (who knows i bet half the melee attacks count as projectiles cause ZOS spaghetti code).
Everyone has access to harness magicka everyone can also get healing ward.. its time Mag classes get some skill and L2 kite
Why don't you play the game more before giving people with much more experience in the game lectures about balance.
Honestly saying light armour classes using ward + harness are op lmao. You are just embarrassing yourself.
lol lmao healing ward heals you and then harness tanks play a stam class for once and youll see how annoying it is to fight shields. Im not saying ALL shields are broken but some players have 14k-17k shields in non cp........ its not fun to play against there is no counter play at all. If mag can dish out crazy pressure from ranged idk why they can have giant burst protection and by far the best passives in the game with it...
I literally mainly play stam classes and do fine. Dots eat shields.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Swimguy✭✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »So many here still complaining about Harness...
Just curious, have you done the math on how much Harness returns if you don't feed it?
lol in cyro people just go braindead harness will get mag back when ur fighting in groups0 -
Lord_Wrath✭✭✭✭✭Ive played a sorc since launch and I can tell you plenty of times a stam user mows down stacked shields they might as well be useless. Hell, the skillbar locks up 60% of the time anyway and cant do anything.1300+ CP | Lørd Wrath | - Sorcerer - Palatine - Grand Master Crafter - 30000 Achievement Points
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Wrath wrote: »Ive played a sorc since launch and I can tell you plenty of times a stam user mows down stacked shields they might as well be useless. Hell, the skillbar locks up 60% of the time anyway and cant do anything.
Trying to survive 2 half good nbs on a sorc is a chore xD
Especially when they double dot poison + inject you, its hurts.
Plus they have enough burst to incap you at half shield and still being you to 0 hp.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0