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No-CP Magplar build
Amorpho
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There doesn't seem to be many No-CP (Battlegrounds) Magplar builds out there (or at least not publicly released). I am working on one at the moment, but I was wondering if anyone had any experience they might want to share.
I was thinking about:
* sload for damage
* something else for sustain (Lich? Transmutation? Maybe Desert Rose?)
* tankiness from Pirate Skeleton (or Bloodspawn?)
* Mundus Stone: the Apprentice.
* Drink: Witchmother potent brew
* 5 lights + 2 heavy
* High Elf Vampire
Any thoughts? I'm slightly concerned for stamina sustain though.
I was thinking about:
* sload for damage
* something else for sustain (Lich? Transmutation? Maybe Desert Rose?)
* tankiness from Pirate Skeleton (or Bloodspawn?)
* Mundus Stone: the Apprentice.
* Drink: Witchmother potent brew
* 5 lights + 2 heavy
* High Elf Vampire
Any thoughts? I'm slightly concerned for stamina sustain though.
The Gaming Rev
YouTube channel - https://youtube.com/c/TheGamingRev
Characters
PVE
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer - Master Crafter
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Magicka Nightblade, Breton
Stamina Nightblade, Khajiit
PVP
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Stamina Templar, Orsimer
Stamina Dragonknight, Dunmer
Stamina Warden, Orsimer
Aldmeri Dominion - 1700+ CP
XboxOne EU
YouTube channel - https://youtube.com/c/TheGamingRev
Characters
PVE
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer - Master Crafter
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Magicka Nightblade, Breton
Stamina Nightblade, Khajiit
PVP
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Stamina Templar, Orsimer
Stamina Dragonknight, Dunmer
Stamina Warden, Orsimer
Aldmeri Dominion - 1700+ CP
XboxOne EU
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Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you wear light armor in no cp you will definitely need a defensive set: eitger wizards riposte or pirate skeleton work, but otherwise you are too squishy. Regarding bufffood: in no cp a decent stamina pool is a must have, so either you use tristat food or you have to wear shacklebreaker.
You surely can combine both sets i mentioned and you will have a decent build already.0 -
Baz✭✭✭Thurvokun + Sload (if you really want it) + Overwhelming.
Infused Frost Staff + S&B (escapist poison) for BGs with Blockade
Nirnhoned Shock staff (escapist poison) + S&B for OW with Ele drain
If someone in your team/group wear Riposte, you can drop Thurvokun for SkoriavAA : 150.350 WS StamBladeMostly retired from PvE ESO
vSO : 171.041 CwC StamSorc
vHRC : 155.895 DB Tank
vMoL : 159.672 CwC Stamplar
vHoF : 206.667 MkM StamNB
vAS : 111.272 MkM Magplar
vCR : 128.397 WS MagSorc
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Amorpho✭✭✭✭What do you reckon should be the minimum magicka recovery in BGs?The Gaming Rev
YouTube channel - https://youtube.com/c/TheGamingRev
Characters
PVE
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer - Master Crafter
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Magicka Nightblade, Breton
Stamina Nightblade, Khajiit
PVP
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Stamina Templar, Orsimer
Stamina Dragonknight, Dunmer
Stamina Warden, Orsimer
Aldmeri Dominion - 1700+ CP
XboxOne EU1 -
Jimmy_The_Fixer✭✭✭✭✭Magplar tends to be pretty mix-n-match if you know what you're doing. You can make a build that's not just viable, but pretty optimal by looking at the top 10 magplar sets and picking 3 at random and then adjusting your enchants/armor type/mundus to get your stats to where they need to be.
But your idea 1 damage, 1 sustain, 1 defense is a pretty good starting point. If stamina is gonna be a problem, you can run amberplasm or shacklebreaker which are strong magicka sets that also help stam quite a bit. Tri-stats for armor enchants is also great, if you want to drop some extra cash.
Pirate skeleton over blood spawn (just my personal opinion, BS is still good), our offensive ultimate selection isn't amazing so we can't really make best use of the extra ult gen like an mDK or stamblade can.0 -
Drakkdjinn✭✭✭✭✭
✭No CP, ranged Templar, optimized for play on ZoS poor server infrastructure - hits hard and is hard to perish
https://youtu.be/nA8MOrMjj6E
Full build vid at end of above0 -
Baz✭✭✭What do you reckon should be the minimum magicka recovery in BGs?
Usually, i'm at 1k6 when i'm not using lich, and 1k4 when using lich.
Btw, when you are using procset like sload/overwhelming, no need for high Spell Damage, go full sustain as your sets hits for you (Overwhelming + Sload + frost Blockade is a LOT of pressure)
Personally, I prefer running Lich instead of Sload to be able using a vMA staff for the extra LA damages.
I don't use at all Mist in BGs. Repentance or maybe Race against Time is by far superior imoEdited by Baz on June 13, 2018 10:17PMvAA : 150.350 WS StamBladeMostly retired from PvE ESO
vSO : 171.041 CwC StamSorc
vHRC : 155.895 DB Tank
vMoL : 159.672 CwC Stamplar
vHoF : 206.667 MkM StamNB
vAS : 111.272 MkM Magplar
vCR : 128.397 WS MagSorc
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Amorpho✭✭✭✭How about this build (Desert Rose + Shacklebreaker)? I'm going to test it today:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=24629
I think it's going to work awesome!Edited by Amorpho on June 14, 2018 8:47AMThe Gaming Rev
YouTube channel - https://youtube.com/c/TheGamingRev
Characters
PVE
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer - Master Crafter
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Magicka Nightblade, Breton
Stamina Nightblade, Khajiit
PVP
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Stamina Templar, Orsimer
Stamina Dragonknight, Dunmer
Stamina Warden, Orsimer
Aldmeri Dominion - 1700+ CP
XboxOne EU0 -
Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭How about this build (Desert Rose + Shacklebreaker)? I'm going to test it today:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=24629
I think it's going to work awesome!
Looks good, pretty standard build;)
I wouldnt use toppling charge tough.0 -
Amorpho✭✭✭✭How about this build (Desert Rose + Shacklebreaker)? I'm going to test it today:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=24629
I think it's going to work awesome!
Looks good, pretty standard build;)
I wouldnt use toppling charge tough.
You're not the first one to mention this but I honestly can't fight without a gap closer - whatever the class! Especially with Templars since their mobility is rubbish!The Gaming Rev
YouTube channel - https://youtube.com/c/TheGamingRev
Characters
PVE
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer - Master Crafter
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Magicka Nightblade, Breton
Stamina Nightblade, Khajiit
PVP
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Stamina Templar, Orsimer
Stamina Dragonknight, Dunmer
Stamina Warden, Orsimer
Aldmeri Dominion - 1700+ CP
XboxOne EU0 -
Koensol✭✭✭✭✭
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Agreed. It depends on your playstyle as well. I like to play very aggressive so I definately want toppling charge. Set up combo from range with purifying light + reflective light + unstable core + meteor and then charge with some jabs. If you stun them its RIP. I love it.How about this build (Desert Rose + Shacklebreaker)? I'm going to test it today:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=24629
I think it's going to work awesome!
Looks good, pretty standard build;)
I wouldnt use toppling charge tough.
You're not the first one to mention this but I honestly can't fight without a gap closer - whatever the class! Especially with Templars since their mobility is rubbish!
But some people play a more conservative role and I can imagine you don't need it as much.0 -
Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭How about this build (Desert Rose + Shacklebreaker)? I'm going to test it today:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=24629
I think it's going to work awesome!
Looks good, pretty standard build;)
I wouldnt use toppling charge tough.
You're not the first one to mention this but I honestly can't fight without a gap closer - whatever the class! Especially with Templars since their mobility is rubbish!
I just mentioned it, since you cant use toppling charge in melee range, so you cant stun the enemy afterwards reliably. Additionally you dont have a mobility benefit from it, if you want to run or something on the defense. I therefore prefer accelerating drain, which stuns pretty good and provides 10% speed.2 -
rikimm16_ESO✭✭✭Skoria
Overwhelming (or Sloads)
Wizard Riposte
3 stat food (we need the stamina to CC break)
Argonian (imo)
Vamp1 -
Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
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Boring and no skill behind that setup. The same goes for sloads like overwhelminh surge. Let the sets do your work thenrikimm16_ESO wrote: »Skoria
Overwhelming (or Sloads)
Wizard Riposte
3 stat food (we need the stamina to CC break)
Argonian (imo)
Vamp
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Amorpho✭✭✭✭
Agreed. It depends on your playstyle as well. I like to play very aggressive so I definately want toppling charge. Set up combo from range with purifying light + reflective light + unstable core + meteor and then charge with some jabs. If you stun them its RIP. I love it.How about this build (Desert Rose + Shacklebreaker)? I'm going to test it today:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=24629
I think it's going to work awesome!
Looks good, pretty standard build;)
I wouldnt use toppling charge tough.
You're not the first one to mention this but I honestly can't fight without a gap closer - whatever the class! Especially with Templars since their mobility is rubbish!
But some people play a more conservative role and I can imagine you don't need it as much.
That's exactly how I play.The Gaming Rev
YouTube channel - https://youtube.com/c/TheGamingRev
Characters
PVE
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer - Master Crafter
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Magicka Nightblade, Breton
Stamina Nightblade, Khajiit
PVP
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Stamina Templar, Orsimer
Stamina Dragonknight, Dunmer
Stamina Warden, Orsimer
Aldmeri Dominion - 1700+ CP
XboxOne EU0 -
rikimm16_ESO✭✭✭
Boring and no skill behind that setup. The same goes for sloads like overwhelminh surge. Let the sets do your work thenrikimm16_ESO wrote: »Skoria
Overwhelming (or Sloads)
Wizard Riposte
3 stat food (we need the stamina to CC break)
Argonian (imo)
Vamp
#MySetsCarryMe
I agree, it is boring but very efficient. The OP wants to know what’s out there and our experiences, not how skillless is a setup.
BTW, I have no problems killing or sustaining with that set in battlegrounds. I love how NB just melt against it (not using Sloads btw)!
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Amorpho✭✭✭✭How about this build (Desert Rose + Shacklebreaker)? I'm going to test it today:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=24629
I think it's going to work awesome!
I have been testing this but I find I am way too squishy (I'm practically on my backbar almost all the time). I think that 5 piece light armor without shields is just not good enough - even with Pirate Skeleton. In fact, Pirate Skeleton has often been a problem. The transformation has something like 0.5 second animation that often messes up my rotation or my barswap. Do you guys fight in light armor or heavy? I also think it would be a lot more beneficial for stamina sustain. So many light-armor build eventually die after running out of stam in BGs.
I am going to try a different approach today. It's less damage but I suspect it will be a lot more survivable:
* 5 - 1 - 1 setup (heavy)
* Shacklebreaker + Desert Rose
* Bloodspawn
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=69020
An alternative would be
* Shacklebreaker + lich (back-bar)
* 2 piece willpower (front-bar)
* Bloodspawn
Any thoughts?Edited by Amorpho on June 18, 2018 9:27AMThe Gaming Rev
YouTube channel - https://youtube.com/c/TheGamingRev
Characters
PVE
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer - Master Crafter
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Magicka Nightblade, Breton
Stamina Nightblade, Khajiit
PVP
Magicka Sorcerer, Altmer
Magicka Templar, Altmer
Stamina Templar, Orsimer
Stamina Dragonknight, Dunmer
Stamina Warden, Orsimer
Aldmeri Dominion - 1700+ CP
XboxOne EU0 -
Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭How about this build (Desert Rose + Shacklebreaker)? I'm going to test it today:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=24629
I think it's going to work awesome!
I have been testing this but I find I am way too squishy (I'm practically on my backbar almost all the time). I think that 5 piece light armor without shields is just not good enough - even with Pirate Skeleton. In fact, Pirate Skeleton has often been a problem. The transformation has something like 0.5 second animation that often messes up my rotation or my barswap. Do you guys fight in light armor or heavy? I also think it would be a lot more beneficial for stamina sustain. So many light-armor build eventually die after running out of stam in BGs.
I am going to try a different approach today. It's less damage but I suspect it will be a lot more survivable:
* 5 - 1 - 1 setup (heavy)
* Shacklebreaker + Desert Rose
* Bloodspawn
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=69020
An alternative would be
* Shacklebreaker + lich (back-bar)
* 2 piece willpower (front-bar)
* Bloodspawn
Any thoughts?
in heavy this is a pretty comon build, so will work very good.
about pirate skeleton, there is a trick with a costume, which oppresses the transformation. therefore you still get the buffs and debuffs, but no animation disturbance.1 -
Jimmy_The_Fixer✭✭✭✭✭How about this build (Desert Rose + Shacklebreaker)? I'm going to test it today:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=24629
I think it's going to work awesome!
I have been testing this but I find I am way too squishy (I'm practically on my backbar almost all the time). I think that 5 piece light armor without shields is just not good enough - even with Pirate Skeleton. In fact, Pirate Skeleton has often been a problem. The transformation has something like 0.5 second animation that often messes up my rotation or my barswap. Do you guys fight in light armor or heavy? I also think it would be a lot more beneficial for stamina sustain. So many light-armor build eventually die after running out of stam in BGs.
I am going to try a different approach today. It's less damage but I suspect it will be a lot more survivable:
* 5 - 1 - 1 setup (heavy)
* Shacklebreaker + Desert Rose
* Bloodspawn
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=69020
An alternative would be
* Shacklebreaker + lich (back-bar)
* 2 piece willpower (front-bar)
* Bloodspawn
Any thoughts?
in heavy this is a pretty comon build, so will work very good.
about pirate skeleton, there is a trick with a costume, which oppresses the transformation. therefore you still get the buffs and debuffs, but no animation disturbance.
I think only disguises suppress the transformation, pretty sure costumes don't help.
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Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »How about this build (Desert Rose + Shacklebreaker)? I'm going to test it today:
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=24629
I think it's going to work awesome!
I have been testing this but I find I am way too squishy (I'm practically on my backbar almost all the time). I think that 5 piece light armor without shields is just not good enough - even with Pirate Skeleton. In fact, Pirate Skeleton has often been a problem. The transformation has something like 0.5 second animation that often messes up my rotation or my barswap. Do you guys fight in light armor or heavy? I also think it would be a lot more beneficial for stamina sustain. So many light-armor build eventually die after running out of stam in BGs.
I am going to try a different approach today. It's less damage but I suspect it will be a lot more survivable:
* 5 - 1 - 1 setup (heavy)
* Shacklebreaker + Desert Rose
* Bloodspawn
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=69020
An alternative would be
* Shacklebreaker + lich (back-bar)
* 2 piece willpower (front-bar)
* Bloodspawn
Any thoughts?
in heavy this is a pretty comon build, so will work very good.
about pirate skeleton, there is a trick with a costume, which oppresses the transformation. therefore you still get the buffs and debuffs, but no animation disturbance.
I think only disguises suppress the transformation, pretty sure costumes don't help.
ah sry, disguise was what i meant0
