Does Sloads need work in your opinion?

Edziu · June 2018

It needs a heavy nerf

generalmyrick wrote: »

I die, its lethal arrow and puncturing sweep is in my death recap 10x more than sloads.

and these skills are counterable mitigable (if you have problem with snipe its knowed BUG here so its chance its bug killing you if you are exp in pvp) and these skills are also just l2p to avoid or your build is bad then

thse skills are normal and since always

with this set...uhh...all I can say only counter is just be an healbot or have pocked healbot
you cant know when it proc, you dont know who can have it, it as unmitigable dot not costing you resources just lower your healing indedeed to heal you from normal player damage

for example I can give you I as simply stamblade on noncp without even proc sets have full 905 healing per second on my vigor! and this should be enough for me or gtfo.

and yes, normally with other tools which I have it can be anough but with sload? just lol, nor only it is taking almost 100^ of my vigor healing but also is cutting off in 100% my mai defense - cloak
worse than magelight which can avoid, worse than mark because with mark I have 100% sure I will purge it as 1st, with mark I can still surpress dots from other players than caster which is mostly just coward behind group

DuskMarine · June 2018

It needs a heavy nerf

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

generalmyrick wrote: »

I die, its lethal arrow and puncturing sweep is in my death recap 10x more than sloads.

about 30% of my deaths have been from multiple sload procs. they say they want counters to everything well........sloads you cant counter even if you wanted to.

PC problem.

This simply does not happen on console.

trust me i know i loved pvp on console

Strider__Roshin · June 2018

It needs a buff

ezio45 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

I golded it out, and tried it. Pretty underwhelming unfortunately. I've had it applied to be several times, and I don't have any issues with it. I'd say it needs it's damage increased by 50% in order for me to consider using it again. Not that I'm legitimately hoping they do that. I think proc sets are bad for PvP.

again, quit trying to make whatever class you dont play free ap just cuz you cant deal with it

Templars? Yeah I'm pretty confident they aren't free AP with Sloads lol.

DuskMarine · June 2018

It needs a heavy nerf

Daus wrote: »

ezio45 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

I golded it out, and tried it. Pretty underwhelming unfortunately. I've had it applied to be several times, and I don't have any issues with it. I'd say it needs it's damage increased by 50% in order for me to consider using it again. Not that I'm legitimately hoping they do that. I think proc sets are bad for PvP.

again, quit trying to make whatever class you dont play free ap just cuz you cant deal with it

Templars? Yeah I'm pretty confident they aren't free AP with Sloads lol.

dude anyone running sloads i just streak away from screw that garbage. that set is a legit exploit that they put into the game.

ezio45 · June 2018

It needs a heavy nerf

how many weeks has this set been out, why is it still not nerfed despite everything showing this set is beyond broken

DuskMarine · June 2018

It needs a heavy nerf

ezio45 wrote: »

how many weeks has this set been out, why is it still not nerfed despite everything showing this set is beyond broken

wrobel

redshirt_49 · June 2018

It's fine the way it is

I brought a set of sloads into lowbie pvp on my magblade. Does that make me a bad person?

EvilAutoTech · June 2018

It's fine the way it is

I will say this, it has never helped me get a kill that I wasn't going to get otherwise and has never killed me when I wasn't going to die anyway.

I built a set (purple with purple enchants) and went to PVP, didn't even keep it on for the whole session. It's OK but I prefer straight damage over RNG.

Olupajmibanan · June 2018

Other

Speaking only from BGs perspective.
Sload is especially good on some characters (magblade, bleed stamsorc and magDK) while absolutely underwhelming on others (magsorc, stamden).

Sload is fine as it is, however it shouldn't bring NBs out of cloak. Viper, Sheer Venom etc. all these work just like Sload (put a DoT on your target) and none of these bring NB out of cloak. Why Sload should then?

Secondly, Sload shouldn't stack. If you put Sload on target with another Sload debuff going on already, your Sload should replace the first one with new duration.

Other than these I don't think that Sload needs any changes.

Vizier · June 2018

It's fine the way it is

LOL- What we have here are sorcs and super tanks that are too used to being untouchable. They 1vX. They run in small groups and lay waste to pugs and small groups that dare to enter the tower or chase them...so long as several guys aren't using Sload's. The only way their cancer continues unabated is by crying to high heaven about oblivion damage.

The funny thing is is Sload's isn't that great of a set. There are tons of sets that do more damage over time or have have massive burst damage far and above anything Sload's can dish out. You'll here them say things like "ya, but when multiple people are running it I can't heal through it." LOLOL as if the set should be culled so they can heal through it when getting hit by multiple people...think about that. I wonder what it would look like with multiple people running viper, or destructive mage or Caluurion's Legacy?

Bottom line is they don't want to adapt..they don't think they should have to. I mean they are dying so Sload's is obviously OP right?

Oblivion damage is unique in that it gets through defenses. I think the argument can be made that Sload's is bringing balance back to Cyrodiil and is working as intended. It is my hope ZOS sticks to their guns on this one.

Nyladreas · June 2018

Sload is crap in Cyrodiil. In battlegrounds its a huge pain.

Uviryth · June 2018

Other

Its PvP, who cares if they mosh each other a second faster or slower.
What I do know, whenever they nerf anything based on PvP, its PvE that suffers. I still cant get over the fact they changed shields to a 6 second counter down from 20. As if combat wasnt twitchy enough already.

Jaybe_Mawfaka · June 2018

It needs a buff

buff it so 10% that are not using it yet will.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · June 2018

Other

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Is there an ability that can be slotted to lessen its impact?

Yes, there is.

Is “but it would break my build that has a gaping weakness so rather than equip new skills or armor I’ll cry for nerfs” a valid defense?

No, it is not.

L2Adjust

While not doubt this set is hated on more then it should be from some builds I have to agree with the hate. Wardens and Templars have the lease took to judge this set but have fairly cheap class purges. Any magic build can use Efficient Purge not a 100% fix with its high cost.

Stamina builds can really be melted by this with no real counter. It’s the same damage type as Shield Breaker but it’s not the same. With Shield Breaker if you focused and healing and CC without putting a shield up then Shield Breaker is useless. My Mage Sorc win fights vs Shield Breaker cause I just stop shielding and CC while healing. My Nightblades stop cloaking when Mage Light is in play no point is burning magic for nothing.

Sets like Shield Breaker and powers like Mage Light are only problems for players that can’t change up their pln of attack mid fight. Sload has no counter plan. Their is not I can do outside of a purge to clear it. One Efficient Purge is nearly all my magic. On any stamina build.

Facefister · June 2018

Remove sets from PvP altogether. Just non-set items.

agegarton · June 2018

It's fine the way it is

It's just this week's "OMG I died and this was on my kill log so jeeeez we have to urgently nerf it" set.

From my perspective, I have found it fun to play with and against (I use it on one of my junior builds, one of about 7 I actively take to PVP). I'd like to see more sets in the game like this one, with useful and hard-hitting set bonus features, not fewer. I'd also like the Nerf crowd to be completely ignored on this one as I am completely tired of hearing "nerf nerf nerf" every five minutes on these forums.

shadowwraith666 · June 2018

It's fine the way it is

Enough of the nerf threads already, there needs to be a complete pve/pvp segregation so that us pve players won't get our skills or gear nerfed because of pvp complainers.

RajinPVP · June 2018

Other

They just need to make it like major or minor debuff or something so it wont stacked when multiple people using it on one person.. tbh.. i have no issue fighting someone using sloads.. it gets harder to 1v1 once they used another strong set like zaans and duroks ., but sloads by it self is not a big issue...

josiahva · June 2018

It's fine the way it is

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Is there an ability that can be slotted to lessen its impact?

Yes, there is.

Is “but it would break my build that has a gaping weakness so rather than equip new skills or armor I’ll cry for nerfs” a valid defense?

No, it is not.

L2Adjust

While not doubt this set is hated on more then it should be from some builds I have to agree with the hate. Wardens and Templars have the lease took to judge this set but have fairly cheap class purges. Any magic build can use Efficient Purge not a 100% fix with its high cost.

Stamina builds can really be melted by this with no real counter. It’s the same damage type as Shield Breaker but it’s not the same. With Shield Breaker if you focused and healing and CC without putting a shield up then Shield Breaker is useless. My Mage Sorc win fights vs Shield Breaker cause I just stop shielding and CC while healing. My Nightblades stop cloaking when Mage Light is in play no point is burning magic for nothing.

Sets like Shield Breaker and powers like Mage Light are only problems for players that can’t change up their pln of attack mid fight. Sload has no counter plan. Their is not I can do outside of a purge to clear it. One Efficient Purge is nearly all my magic. On any stamina build.

But stamina classes really arent hurt by this any more than viper or some other proc DoT set. That's the point...this set is doing what it was designed to, which is kicking the crutches of shield stacking and heavy armor out from under PvP.

Tucker3711 · June 2018

It needs a buff

This is what I want

Rianai · June 2018

It needs a heavy nerf

josiahva wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Is there an ability that can be slotted to lessen its impact?

Yes, there is.

Is “but it would break my build that has a gaping weakness so rather than equip new skills or armor I’ll cry for nerfs” a valid defense?

No, it is not.

L2Adjust

While not doubt this set is hated on more then it should be from some builds I have to agree with the hate. Wardens and Templars have the lease took to judge this set but have fairly cheap class purges. Any magic build can use Efficient Purge not a 100% fix with its high cost.

Stamina builds can really be melted by this with no real counter. It’s the same damage type as Shield Breaker but it’s not the same. With Shield Breaker if you focused and healing and CC without putting a shield up then Shield Breaker is useless. My Mage Sorc win fights vs Shield Breaker cause I just stop shielding and CC while healing. My Nightblades stop cloaking when Mage Light is in play no point is burning magic for nothing.

Sets like Shield Breaker and powers like Mage Light are only problems for players that can’t change up their pln of attack mid fight. Sload has no counter plan. Their is not I can do outside of a purge to clear it. One Efficient Purge is nearly all my magic. On any stamina build.

But stamina classes really arent hurt by this any more than viper or some other proc DoT set. That's the point...this set is doing what it was designed to, which is kicking the crutches of shield stacking and heavy armor out from under PvP.

That's simply not true. It deals more dmg than viper or other dot proc sets against everyone. I have an "easier" time at dealing with it as magsorc or in heavy armor than with my usual non-shieldstacking light armored magblade build. It is NOT a specific counter to shieldstacking or tanks or whatever. It is a dmg set which works with any build, works against any build and outperforms all alternatives.

It is quite telling, that pretty much everyone who defends this set needs to resort to wrong claims in oder to support their position.

Aebaradath · June 2018

It needs a heavy nerf

Nerf.

ParaNostram · June 2018

It's fine the way it is

Just because you see a set in your death recap doesn't mean it's the reason you died.

ZOS_JesC · June 2018

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Edziu · June 2018

It needs a heavy nerf

ParaNostram wrote: »

Just because you see a set in your death recap doesn't mean it's the reason you died.

well yes, this literally was reason why I died

on start you see sload which didnt let me go into cloak and TA DAA
rest which you see on my recap is followed by only and ONLY thanks by this sload

Gilvoth · June 2018

It's fine the way it is

Vizier wrote: »

LOL- What we have here are sorcs and super tanks that are too used to being untouchable. They 1vX. They run in small groups and lay waste to pugs and small groups that dare to enter the tower or chase them...so long as several guys aren't using Sload's. The only way their cancer continues unabated is by crying to high heaven about oblivion damage.

The funny thing is is Sload's isn't that great of a set. There are tons of sets that do more damage over time or have have massive burst damage far and above anything Sload's can dish out. You'll here them say things like "ya, but when multiple people are running it I can't heal through it." LOLOL as if the set should be culled so they can heal through it when getting hit by multiple people...think about that. I wonder what it would look like with multiple people running viper, or destructive mage or Caluurion's Legacy?

Bottom line is they don't want to adapt..they don't think they should have to. I mean they are dying so Sload's is obviously OP right?

Oblivion damage is unique in that it gets through defenses. I think the argument can be made that Sload's is bringing balance back to Cyrodiil and is working as intended. It is my hope ZOS sticks to their guns on this one.

all truth.
well said!
your comment is the most perfectly presented and factual post to date on the sloads subject, i wish i could award you with 10,000 Awesomes and 10,000 insightfulls and 10,000 agrees.

Jammer480 · June 2018

It's fine the way it is

No, Sloads is fine. When someone is able to "Dodge" 6-8 consecutive attacks...THAT is what needs to be nerfed and is the true cancer in pvp.

Edziu · June 2018

It needs a heavy nerf

Jammer480 wrote: »

No, Sloads is fine. When someone is able to "Dodge" 6-8 consecutive attacks...THAT is what needs to be nerfed and is the true cancer in pvp.

you know no players is able to do 8 dodges in row? or if can he is fully builded for it so - high rege, dodge cost reduction and really low damage

if you have played longer in this game you will knowed just evey proc damage setc is true cancer in pvp

Jammer480 · June 2018

It's fine the way it is

Edziu wrote: »

Jammer480 wrote: »

No, Sloads is fine. When someone is able to "Dodge" 6-8 consecutive attacks...THAT is what needs to be nerfed and is the true cancer in pvp.

you know no players is able to do 8 dodges in row? or if can he is fully builded for it so - high rege, dodge cost reduction and really low damage

if you have played longer in this game you will knowed just evey proc damage setc is true cancer in pvp

I've played since release and 100% disagree with you on proc sets. People's attitudes are the true and only cancer. But just last night a nb sniped 2 members of my group, was promptly marked by another member of our group, and then 6 or more of my ranged attacks were "dodged" by this player and then he/she disappeared. This player was not weak, had high enough damage to kill 2 players, and then dodge 6+ attacks. This is not the first time, and if YOU played the game, you would know that the ability to "dodge" is way too high.

BigBadVolk · June 2018

It needs a heavy nerf

just let nbs cloak or give us a set that stops blocking and healing abilites, otherwise it doesnt, matter ZoS will deal with this set in due time, no proc set escapes the nerf hammer