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Does Sloads need work in your opinion?
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Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It needs a buffBuff it. I want to play Instagib in Cyrodiil.I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.2 -
mikegundy✭✭✭It needs a heavy nerfIt's just this week's "OMG I died and this was on my kill log so jeeeez we have to urgently nerf it" set.
From my perspective, I have found it fun to play with and against (I use it on one of my junior builds, one of about 7 I actively take to PVP). I'd like to see more sets in the game like this one, with useful and hard-hitting set bonus features, not fewer. I'd also like the Nerf crowd to be completely ignored on this one as I am completely tired of hearing "nerf nerf nerf" every five minutes on these forums.
nobody is forcing you to read the forums.Gundysorc - AR50
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TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭It's fine the way it ishow many weeks has this set been out, why is it still not nerfed despite everything showing this set is beyond broken
The set is not broken...
Balance is determined in 1v1 settings...
1v1 Sloads is very manageable...
Unyeilding Bias
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭It needs a heavy nerfTheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
for healbots and magica build with burst heal or stamina tankly build(so also with better healing)? for those yes, sure
but for those who have less healing - look at nonheavy armor wearers and non healbot option classes its just horrible pain while cutting off their main defense (look at nb, magsorc)0 -
DanteYoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It needs a heavy nerfIt needs to take its fat ass back where it came from and stop spreading diseases...3 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭It's fine the way it isTheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
for healbots and magica build with burst heal or stamina tankly build(so also with better healing)? for those yes, sure
but for those who have less healing - look at nonheavy armor wearers and non healbot option classes its just horrible pain while cutting off their main defense (look at nb, magsorc)
You could equip the Wyrd Tree set as a counter for Sloads...
I know many of you Nightblades hate the idea of having to sacrifice some of that KILL, KILL, KILL power for more utility, but it is a viable option for dealing with negative effects applied to you...
And especially since Wyrd Tree is activated by using a Magicka ability; you can Cleanse 5 Negative Effects and Cloak all at once...
Just let go of some of your offensive punch...
I know you don't want to do it, but it will help you survive better in the current game...
Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on June 19, 2018 2:32AMUnyeilding Bias
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭It needs a heavy nerfTheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
for healbots and magica build with burst heal or stamina tankly build(so also with better healing)? for those yes, sure
but for those who have less healing - look at nonheavy armor wearers and non healbot option classes its just horrible pain while cutting off their main defense (look at nb, magsorc)
You could equip the Wyrd Tree set as a counter for Sloads...
I know many of you Nightblades hate the idea of having to sacrifice some of that KILL, KILL, KILL power for more utility, but it is a viable option for dealing with negative effects applied to you...
And especially since Wyrd Tree is activated by using a Magicka ability; you can Cleanse 5 Negative Effects and Cloak all at once...
Just let go of some of your offensive punch...
I know you don't want to do it, but it will help you survive better in the current game...
I was using this on maglabed....on MAGBLADE not on stamblade and was fine but also before sload meta
and please dont even suggest this set to medium armor build on stamlblde as its heavy armor set + its magica set
this will almsot totally kill build created for medium armor changing into something which wont be and medium armor build on stamina
will be some fine/to rethink if it was stamina set but it isnt, if I would go with magica set on my stambuild it will be calurions legacy because of really high damage from this proc + as its for even light armor magica set I could have more benefits from this additional magica from for example jewerly0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭It's fine the way it isTheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
for healbots and magica build with burst heal or stamina tankly build(so also with better healing)? for those yes, sure
but for those who have less healing - look at nonheavy armor wearers and non healbot option classes its just horrible pain while cutting off their main defense (look at nb, magsorc)
You could equip the Wyrd Tree set as a counter for Sloads...
I know many of you Nightblades hate the idea of having to sacrifice some of that KILL, KILL, KILL power for more utility, but it is a viable option for dealing with negative effects applied to you...
And especially since Wyrd Tree is activated by using a Magicka ability; you can Cleanse 5 Negative Effects and Cloak all at once...
Just let go of some of your offensive punch...
I know you don't want to do it, but it will help you survive better in the current game...
I was using this on maglabed....on MAGBLADE not on stamblade and was fine but also before sload meta
and please dont even suggest this set to medium armor build on stamlblde as its heavy armor set + its magica set
this will almsot totally kill build created for medium armor changing into something which wont be and medium armor build on stamina
will be some fine/to rethink if it was stamina set but it isnt, if I would go with magica set on my stambuild it will be calurions legacy because of really high damage from this proc + as its for even light armor magica set I could have more benefits from this additional magica from for example jewerly
Using Wyrd will make you more of a hybrid, and I don't think that's a bad thing; you'll be more versatile...
As for it being Heavy, Jewelry Crafting can eliminate that roadblock as you can retrait the jewelry into whatever trait you want...
If you choose Cal's, you will have more offensive firepower, but you wont have an answer for Sloads and isn't that what this thread is about?
If you choose Cal's over Wyrds and continue to die to Sloads, then you have no one to blame but yourself...
You choose offense over defensive utility and paid the price for it as far as I can see...
Unyeilding Bias
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ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It needs a heavy nerfTheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
for healbots and magica build with burst heal or stamina tankly build(so also with better healing)? for those yes, sure
but for those who have less healing - look at nonheavy armor wearers and non healbot option classes its just horrible pain while cutting off their main defense (look at nb, magsorc)
You could equip the Wyrd Tree set as a counter for Sloads...
I know many of you Nightblades hate the idea of having to sacrifice some of that KILL, KILL, KILL power for more utility, but it is a viable option for dealing with negative effects applied to you...
And especially since Wyrd Tree is activated by using a Magicka ability; you can Cleanse 5 Negative Effects and Cloak all at once...
Just let go of some of your offensive punch...
I know you don't want to do it, but it will help you survive better in the current game...
wyrd doesnt assure sloads as 1 of the removed effects and its cd is 3x as long sloads, its a useless set1 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It needs a heavy nerfTheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
for healbots and magica build with burst heal or stamina tankly build(so also with better healing)? for those yes, sure
but for those who have less healing - look at nonheavy armor wearers and non healbot option classes its just horrible pain while cutting off their main defense (look at nb, magsorc)
You could equip the Wyrd Tree set as a counter for Sloads...
I know many of you Nightblades hate the idea of having to sacrifice some of that KILL, KILL, KILL power for more utility, but it is a viable option for dealing with negative effects applied to you...
And especially since Wyrd Tree is activated by using a Magicka ability; you can Cleanse 5 Negative Effects and Cloak all at once...
Just let go of some of your offensive punch...
I know you don't want to do it, but it will help you survive better in the current game...
I was using this on maglabed....on MAGBLADE not on stamblade and was fine but also before sload meta
and please dont even suggest this set to medium armor build on stamlblde as its heavy armor set + its magica set
this will almsot totally kill build created for medium armor changing into something which wont be and medium armor build on stamina
will be some fine/to rethink if it was stamina set but it isnt, if I would go with magica set on my stambuild it will be calurions legacy because of really high damage from this proc + as its for even light armor magica set I could have more benefits from this additional magica from for example jewerly
Using Wyrd will make you more of a hybrid, and I don't think that's a bad thing; you'll be more versatile...
As for it being Heavy, Jewelry Crafting can eliminate that roadblock as you can retrait the jewelry into whatever trait you want...
If you choose Cal's, you will have more offensive firepower, but you wont have an answer for Sloads and isn't that what this thread is about?
If you choose Cal's over Wyrds and continue to die to Sloads, then you have no one to blame but yourself...
You choose offense over defensive utility and paid the price for it as far as I can see...
hyrbrid = tank, not more versatile . theres reasons noone hybrid dps's
that isnt even the pointEdited by ezio45 on June 19, 2018 4:54AM1 -
Narvuntien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It needs a small nerfCan only have one stack of sloads on you at any one time... balanced done.0 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It needs a heavy nerfNarvuntien wrote: »Can only have one stack of sloads on you at any one time... balanced done.
not even close, make it not oblivion dmg and it will be balanced or cut it half and nake if so it doesnt remove nbs from stealth and it will be balanced....
or just flat out remove it0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭It's fine the way it isTheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
for healbots and magica build with burst heal or stamina tankly build(so also with better healing)? for those yes, sure
but for those who have less healing - look at nonheavy armor wearers and non healbot option classes its just horrible pain while cutting off their main defense (look at nb, magsorc)
You could equip the Wyrd Tree set as a counter for Sloads...
I know many of you Nightblades hate the idea of having to sacrifice some of that KILL, KILL, KILL power for more utility, but it is a viable option for dealing with negative effects applied to you...
And especially since Wyrd Tree is activated by using a Magicka ability; you can Cleanse 5 Negative Effects and Cloak all at once...
Just let go of some of your offensive punch...
I know you don't want to do it, but it will help you survive better in the current game...
wyrd doesnt assure sloads as 1 of the removed effects and its cd is 3x as long sloads, its a useless set
Balance is ascertained 1v1...
If you are fighting 1v1, then Sloads should be one of the negative effects removed...
If you have more than 5 negative effects on you at once, then you are probably fighting outnumbered and/or is being targeted by multiple opponents...
If that's the case, then Sloads possibly not being one of the negative effects removed is reasonable...
And if 6 or more negative effects are being applied to you in combat, make it a habit of bringing a Templar with you for battle...
The synergy of Ritual removes all negative effects...
Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on June 19, 2018 5:31AMUnyeilding Bias
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Jaavaa✭✭✭✭✭It needs a heavy nerfLegendaryArcher wrote: »Why are we even discussing this? L2P scrubs...
Fight against an Sload/Viper/Skoria DW-2H Stam DK and you will see why sloads need a nerf. Uptime 100% with an Dot Build, Dots tickin with up to 15k per Sec, you cant outheal anything expect you are out there with a Templar. Or fight against 2-3 ppl they wear sloads. Your heals are gone.
Maybe a cooldown ist enough, or let it proc only at direct damage. The uptime is the biggest problem with this set. And the uptime from Skoria with this combinations.Edited by Jaavaa on June 19, 2018 7:19AM1 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭It needs a heavy nerfTheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
for healbots and magica build with burst heal or stamina tankly build(so also with better healing)? for those yes, sure
but for those who have less healing - look at nonheavy armor wearers and non healbot option classes its just horrible pain while cutting off their main defense (look at nb, magsorc)
You could equip the Wyrd Tree set as a counter for Sloads...
I know many of you Nightblades hate the idea of having to sacrifice some of that KILL, KILL, KILL power for more utility, but it is a viable option for dealing with negative effects applied to you...
And especially since Wyrd Tree is activated by using a Magicka ability; you can Cleanse 5 Negative Effects and Cloak all at once...
Just let go of some of your offensive punch...
I know you don't want to do it, but it will help you survive better in the current game...
I was using this on maglabed....on MAGBLADE not on stamblade and was fine but also before sload meta
and please dont even suggest this set to medium armor build on stamlblde as its heavy armor set + its magica set
this will almsot totally kill build created for medium armor changing into something which wont be and medium armor build on stamina
will be some fine/to rethink if it was stamina set but it isnt, if I would go with magica set on my stambuild it will be calurions legacy because of really high damage from this proc + as its for even light armor magica set I could have more benefits from this additional magica from for example jewerly
Using Wyrd will make you more of a hybrid, and I don't think that's a bad thing; you'll be more versatile...
As for it being Heavy, Jewelry Crafting can eliminate that roadblock as you can retrait the jewelry into whatever trait you want...
If you choose Cal's, you will have more offensive firepower, but you wont have an answer for Sloads and isn't that what this thread is about?
If you choose Cal's over Wyrds and continue to die to Sloads, then you have no one to blame but yourself...
You choose offense over defensive utility and paid the price for it as far as I can see...
if you read my post correctly you could see I cant retrait healthy jewerly because I dont have summerset
and aboud hybid//are you serious? for max damage/dps hybrid isnt way to go, if I will wear hyvrid it will give me nothing to magic damage capatobilities...and if we will go for hybrid to try damage anything we should go for pelinas aplitude, not wyrd which will bring nothing to magic damage while being builded for staima
good hybrid for damage doesnt exists in this game since CP introduce
EDIT: and about cal..no this wont fix my problem with sload but will give me chance to faster kill an noob before he will sload me so better profit than wyrd which even dont promise me cleanse from sload while having many other debufsEdited by Edziu on June 19, 2018 9:01AM0 -
Consum98✭It needs a small nerfIt's a pretty difficult call in all honesty, as is everything, it is strong against certain builds and weak against others.
It was designed to put pressure on heals which it does nicely. The issue is the TYPE of damage. If this were changed, the damage would need a significant buff to even be close to what it is now, perhaps even 3 fold.
Perhaps a form of purge should just be more readily accessible?0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭It's fine the way it isI chose fine as is, because frankly I think everyone who cries about anything is just mad because it might prevent their previously OP builds from instagibbing whole groups.
It's the groups who think they're entitled to ez wins who make everything toxic.
Not some noobs in sloads.
Plus - how is it that you're so mighty that you cannot learn to adapt?
Get real.
I don't even wear it and it changes nothing.
Well said...Unyeilding Bias
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Auros✭✭✭OtherAdd to it a feature to destroy castle walls. This is missing!! Also the shade can fire a ballista or sth...0
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vamp_emily✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The overall Damage output needs to be looked at in the low level campaign "Kyne".
I played a little bit in Vivec and low level BG over the weekend and didn't really find Sload that bad except the fact that every time it procs I get taken out of cloak. I depend on cloak just like healers depend on heals, sorc's depend on shields, and tanks depend on heavy armor and certain skills.
However, Sload and everything else in Kyne is soo freaking OP.
Since summerset was released:
- Sloads been on my deathcap for a stacked damage of over 9k
- Dawnbreaker is hitting for over 8k damage ( used to be between 4k and 5k )
- Reverse slice is hitting for 8k+ damage
- Sieges are out of control
Those are just a few things I've noticed. In kyne we don't have great skills unlocked and all this high damage is insane. I've heard players say stuff like, "I have Sload on and stand behind a scrattershot, It is soo funny my sload procs and kills them".
This screen shot is kind of funny. I decided use my tank in Kyne. Kyne players don't mess around they will drop a bunch of sieges in a open field for the win.
If you want a friend, get a dog.
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Vrienda✭✭✭✭✭
✭It needs a buffIt's not that good.Desperate for Roleplaying servers to bring open world non-organised RP to Elder Scrolls Online. Please ZOS.1 -
Arobain✭✭✭✭It needs a small nerfeveryone that voted buff or fine as is, does not have a magicka character1
